3rd party programsFollow

It does and the really only way to find someone using it is if they tell someone but they are also coming out with a windower for WoG so thats gonig to be instering to see what one is used more

but the bad thing is windower hates vista so when WoG comes out i think there windower gonig ot hate to

Wait, did you say WotG will have a windower? Like SE is making FFXI windowed? O.o That's notta good idea. lol

yes WoG will have windowed and vista is cool but alot is still messed up on itthats why i duel cord it with windows xp since i have 4 gig of ram and very high proccorer sorry for spelling

its becuz cru sucks u should come to one of mycollege classes right now we are getting to progreming ewwww stupid hexon codes

that or get a rig like this ill post hte website when i get home


Edit: ok i am home now http://www.stefandidak.com/office/

i need to get that set up

Edited, Sep 28th 2007 5:38pm by Kneeru

added a bit more after i reaffirmed what I had already known and figured i would share it with you.

EULA (End-user license agreement) is the agreement the USER makes to agree to the terms set forth by the software company. EULA's are subject to change and have little to no weight in the world of Law. It is the company's way to terminate YOUR service should you break THEIR rules. They CAN and most the time DO let you know if their software is performing invasive inquiry's, but they are not obligated by law to do so. If they put it In the EULA then they MAY* be held accountable for its context. EULA is more of a way to enforce a set of rules or guidelines than a contents of what the application is doing.

MAY* = Depends on where you live. I just went and read a bunch of court cases from different parts of the USA where a judge rules in both manners. But these were cases that have little to no bearing for what we are discussing, it was the closest i could find. These were cases where a company (Gateway) terminated customers based on breaking EULA and the customer Sued the company.

If EULA had to specify everything a piece of software did to your machine then it would be long indeed. They make Registry changes, File Changes. None of this is specified either. Scanning your PC during update is MUCH less invasive.

Edited, Oct 2nd 2007 2:53pm by FrejaFHG

You could get windower lite. No plugins, so you are not cheating.

Also, I was in a party with a whm who kept talking about seeing our tp levels and having windower and out and out bragging. Call me an a-hole, but I called GM on him (for the plugins and windower) The gm said they would look into it. He's still playing now (I won't mention his name, its not right)


Basically, I think they might bring you to jail or something, maybe a slap on the wrist, but I heard if you are apologetic about it, you won't get banned. Just don't cheat, alter movement speed, or bot.

Edited, Oct 2nd 2007 3:51pm by Louiscool

Aren't you connected to their servers when you do an update to the game? It also scans your computer to see what version of the game you have, otherwise, you'd be downloading 6000+ files on each update.

lol you know they anit aloud to scan your whole computer right just them files if they scan anything more its against the law and they can get charges on them

The problem today is that most of the political suits don't know enough about computers to define laws that actually work.

The movie Hackers (while REALLY bad with factual methods and practices) portrays the Political side of this battle really well. The people charged with creating laws don't really know enough about what they are trying to accomplish that the laws generally don't make it anywhere or when they do make it to law, it doesn't encompass anything real and has too many loop holes to escape from. And the people who know enough to make these laws don't want to make the pennys that politicians make when they could stick to their field of expertise and make much more.

The only real laws that have made it anywhere as far as this techno boom goes, is laws that limit security (specifically encryption) And this is laws that apply directly to the limitations of exporting information out of the U.S. with Encryption Algorithms that exceed a certain limit. This is because it is not easily breakable. I think currently the limit is for a 256b keyed encryption. which had been expanded from 128 since my 1996 edition of 'Applied Cryptography'.

Yeah unfortunately theres really no such thing as invasion of privacy when it pertains to your PC. Really wish there was, Maybe we would have less Spam and Spyware being loaded via web apps.

Yeah definitely. there are many tools that let you admin your machine and watch what process' are going, files being accessed etc. however catching a program in the act is difficult. and even to someone who is fairly computer savvy can prove to be a cumbersome task.

For the context of this thread, if they WERE scanning your pc for process' (which is highly unlikely) ending the program would mean no update for you ;)

I didn't realize you meant during that actual update of your own PC. I thought you were talking about the actual maintenance of the server, where as no one is connected to it. But, I see now what you're trying to say, and that does make sense lol

And I just remembered the solution that I used for this similar problem with other games... I had programs on my computer that interfered with games like Knight Online and other sh*t like that... They weren't cheats or anything, but they caused the game's protections to go nuts...

Solution:

ProcessGuard