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#1 Jan 07 2005 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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Hello!

I'm in the process of assembling a linkshell dedicated to completing CoP missions. We'll be starting with the Promyvions and moving on from there as everyone's preparedness and schedules allow. If there are any people on the server who would like to join, please keep in mind the following expectations:

1) You must be willing to invest the necessary time/gil into ensuring you are prepared. For example, for the Promyvion events, anyone wishing to take part must have a full set of Animas and a reasonable supply of medicines for personal use. Events leading up to the main Promyvion events will include Recollection gathering, and I am prepared to help offset the cost of medicines by synthing what I can for the group, provided they assist me in coming up with the ingredients.

2) You must be willing to invest at least SOME time doing events with the group even if it means putting off leveling, etc. from time to time. The success of the group will depend greatly on its ability to work together. Having animas and medicines is a fantastic start, but having grouped with one another before for various different things will also be a significant benefit.

3) Maturity is key please. I'm not interested in a group of people pounding out the leetspeak and talking about their pimping skills. If that's your idea of fun, I won't criticise it, but it grates on my damn nerves ^^

4) You have to want to succeed. Nothing this group does will ever be half-assed. Thus the requirements for participation. Nobody should ever be asked to pick up anyone else's slack because they didn't feel like investing the time/gil/effort into being successful.

I have no intention of being a drill sargeant asshat about any of this, but I've been in one too many Promyvion groups with people who seemed hell bent on trusting to luck more than anything else that I kinda have to think I was with the wrong people. So now I'm looking for people who actually want to get these done and are willing to take steps to help ensure success.

If this interests you, pls reply to this thread or send me a /tell in-game.

Cheers!
#2 Jan 07 2005 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm down, I still need Promy-Holla but pretty much everyone in my LS needs everything from point one. I agree with the coming prepared motto since it is insanely stupid to fight your way though an entire Promy for 1 hour only to go into the final boss battle 1/2 assed. Plus, I want someone to do the level 40 capped JSE stuff :)
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#3 Jan 07 2005 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello Aurelius,
I would like to join, however i have not started any of the COP missions yet, please let me know if there is a openning. Thanks.
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#4 Jan 07 2005 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
i'd be interesting in joining. I need to reactivate my account do to some credit card problems, but should be back this weekend. Names muroku 49samurai/24war. I'll try and send u a tell when i get back.
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#5 Jan 07 2005 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm definitely down - seeing as Rapier never includes me in his Promyvion fun... I guess I have to go elsewhere.

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#6 Jan 07 2005 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm up (or is that down) with anything. I've done Promyvion-Dem, but still need Holla and Mea. My first priority is, and will always be, leveling my MNK, but I have WAR/NIN properly leveled for Promyvion.
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#7 Jan 07 2005 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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you can count me in ive got all my stuff for that level, what time are you on though?

u only want to do the CoP missions or u want to do the quests on it too? an extra source of beastmans seals would be great

just send an in game tell :P
#8 Jan 08 2005 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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The LS is growing daily. If you have replied to this post and have not heard from me, please don't be concerned. I will get back to you asap ^^

I just came off a good night of farming. I now have not only all 3 animas, but also all 3 recollections to replace my animas after the first round of fighting. I will be in touch with all of you who have replied to this thread ^^
#9 Jan 08 2005 at 10:09 PM Rating: Good
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Well crud, it'd be something I'd join Aur but hell if I could find what little time I do for myself already :( Work shifts are random and suck mighty big ones.

Good luck with it, however :) I know if you head it up it'll work out ^_^
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#10 Jan 09 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi I want to be a part of this so bad that I created an account and this is my first post!

Anyway I have 2/3 animas and don't have any of th promyvions done yet (3 failed attempts ugh). I'll try to send yoyu a /tell in game.
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#11 Jan 09 2005 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Not to speak for Aurelius but I know he finally got Dem finished and had an unsuccessful run with a clueless Mea party. I really, really want to help him out with this because I know how furstrating it can be when People do Promyion's half-assed.
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#12 Jan 09 2005 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I'l join your CoP ls. I've been wantign to get more into the CoP story for awhile now. Just send a /t and ill try to find you for a pearl. Lvling smn right now, lvl 28, should get 30 tomorow and I can brign that along.
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#13 Jan 10 2005 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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I would definitely like to join this. I love my current LS, but I can't seem to get too many members interested in doing any CoP stuff which I really want to do. Please send me /tell if you want a 50 WHM (on mostly evenings and weekends) or a PM/email. If I get a pearl, I'd start farming anima's immediately since I have no other priorities since completing Limit 1.

In case you didn't see my character name in the Posting From box, it's Harrison.

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#14 Jan 11 2005 at 12:41 AM Rating: Good
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This is just an update for all of you who have expressed interest in the LS.

The LS is growing, and seems like we should be able to start planning events possibly as soon as this weekend. If you have expressed interest here or in game and I haven't gotten back to you, don't worry. I haven't decided to exclude anyone ^^

I just recently reached lvl 65 Alchemy and will be skilling up on hi-ethers from time to time over the next few days. I will keep as many of them as I can and sell them to anyone participating in the Promyvion BCNMs for around 500 gil each (basically what it's costing me to make them). I'll also be spending some time putting together a hefty supply of hi-potions and other medicines for sale at significant savings over AH cost. Having recently attempted (and failed...don't get me started >.<) at the Promyvion Mea BCNM, I can safely say that everyone in the group should have at least a few antidotes in addition to the regular assortment of medicines.

The key now will be to focus on getting those recollections together. My full set of Recollections/Animas is now down to a Hysteroanima/Recollection of Pain. I'll definately be seeking to get some more together before I even consider planning a run at a BCNM.

The next BCNM will likely be Mea, followed by Holla, and then Dem. I've already completed Dem, but I'm willing to go back to help those who haven't. None of this is set in stone...once we get the LS assembled we can work things out as a group and decide our next course of action ^^

Thanks for being patient while I try and get all this together ^^
#15 Jan 11 2005 at 1:46 AM Rating: Decent
hey aurelias, i dont have CoP yet, and my credit card maxed out >< no ffxi. But luckily, payday is wedsneday :D so i can get FFXI back online, and buy CoP. Is there a level cap, i swore i heard something about it, if so i could farm for the proper leveld gear, and i should be good to go by the weekend.

Peace

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#16 Jan 11 2005 at 4:14 AM Rating: Good
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crazyairsnowboardfreak wrote:
hey aurelias, i dont have CoP yet, and my credit card maxed out >< no ffxi. But luckily, payday is wedsneday :D so i can get FFXI back online, and buy CoP. Is there a level cap, i swore i heard something about it, if so i could farm for the proper leveld gear, and i should be good to go by the weekend.

Peace

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Level cap for Promyvion Dem, Holla, and Mea is 30. Decent gear is expected, but I'm not going to demand everyone go out and spend 500k just to gear themselves up for this. Also budget 20-30k for medicines, appropriate food/juice, and 6k to have your Recollections refined into Animas once we all get them.

Medicines may or may not cost that much...as I've mentioned, I'll be doing what I can to offset the cost of a lot of the medicines needed, but it represents a significant investment of my time and effort to deck out a 2 party alliance with everything they'll need, so it's entirely possible that everyone will end up having to buy at least some things from AH.
#17 Jan 11 2005 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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AureliusSir wrote:
Medicines may or may not cost that much...as I've mentioned, I'll be doing what I can to offset the cost of a lot of the medicines needed, but it represents a significant investment of my time and effort to deck out a 2 party alliance with everything they'll need, so it's entirely possible that everyone will end up having to buy at least some things from AH.


You really only need an alliance for the graveyard part of Holla and if you plan on taking out the NM's in any Promy, other than that, it is more of a hinderence than a help since they tend to stretch wayyyy out and get aggro.
What I want to try is to "cheat" the Memory Recepticals. Which is take a Alliance up to one, kill all the strays first (why people don't do this before engaging the Receptical is beyond me) then Break the alliance into 2 parties. One engages the Receptical and immeditaly calls for help. The sole purpose the the receptical is to open the gate to the next level and, if you have ever messed around inside Promy, you know the mobs "adjust" difficulty for Alliances (as in they are harder if you have an alliance formed). Doing this should set the difficulty at 1 party strength and allow the two parties to take it down hella quick.
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#18 Jan 11 2005 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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rapierdwit wrote:
The sole purpose the the receptical is to open the gate to the next level and, if you have ever messed around inside Promy, you know the mobs "adjust" difficulty for Alliances (as in they are harder if you have an alliance formed). Doing this should set the difficulty at 1 party strength and allow the two parties to take it down hella quick.


That could be possible. I did notice, however, that I was one-hitting the Strays in Mea with Zamburak +1/Holy Bolts. 177 damage/hit (without Holy effect) was more then enough to flatten a Stray, and the speed of crossbow means a well positioned RNG can clear all of the strays from around the MR in about 30 seconds.

Which is very handy when you have a crappy party that takes forever to peel strays off of ranged attackers...but I wouldn't know anything about that ;)
#19 Jan 11 2005 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Yea, with stray strength coming down with the last update I'm thinking the "perfect" set-up would be:
PLD/WAR RNG/NIN RNG/NIN RNG/NIN SMN/WHM WHM/BLM

Two RNG's focus on the Receptical and one is designated to pick off strays along with the PLD.

For the bosses, Astral Flow, 3 EES's followed by an Invinisible (to take hate back off the RNGs) should take down them down. Also, RNGs should hold a Terroranima to take aggro off if they get it in the fight. PLD can cure awake the Mages in case of sleep-ga.
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#20 Jan 11 2005 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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"PLD can cure awake the Mages in case of sleep-ga."

Too bad Curaga earring is a level 42 item. :(
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#21 Jan 11 2005 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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im a 62RDM and most interested in doing storyline missions for the duration of my ff career. Ive tried Promvyions several times, but find the time to set it up and do it to be the biggest hinderance. Trying to make a pickup party seems to alwayss fail,. as a key member either has no anima, no skill, or hasnt done the cuscenes etc. If you want to get serious about it, i am totally down. I have rdm and blm at 30+ and 2 animas atm...

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#22 Jan 11 2005 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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rapierdwit wrote:
PLD can cure awake the Mages in case of sleep-ga.


The alternative to that is to have everyone bring poison potions for the Holla fight. Holla is the only boss I know of that uses sleep, and poison potions are very effective at making sure it doesn't stick.
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AureliusSir wrote:
The alternative to that is to have everyone bring poison potions for the Holla fight. Holla is the only boss I know of that uses sleep, and poison potions are very effective at making sure it doesn't stick.


I got 7 expressly for this purpose.
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#24 Jan 11 2005 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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I'd be interested in this. I have Holla done, but that's it. I think they're cool, so I've no problems doing them more than once.

I have a few questions though:

1. If I am in an experience party, am I expected to drop the party to come help with something?

2. I know you say "dedicated to CoP", but I have to ask anyway: Will you also be doing things other things like ZMs, Missions, special quests, avatar battles, etc.?

My jobs that would help are: 69BST, 42THF, 37NIN, 37WHM and 30WAR.
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#25 Jan 12 2005 at 4:46 AM Rating: Good
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I'd be interested in this. I have Holla done, but that's it. I think they're cool, so I've no problems doing them more than once.

I have a few questions though:

1. If I am in an experience party, am I expected to drop the party to come help with something?

2. I know you say "dedicated to CoP", but I have to ask anyway: Will you also be doing things other things like ZMs, Missions, special quests, avatar battles, etc.?

My jobs that would help are: 69BST, 42THF, 37NIN, 37WHM and 30WAR.


I don't foresee any "spur of the moment" LS events happening. Any LS events that take place will be announced as far in advance as possible. If we throw together a Recollection hunting group at the drop of a hat and you're busy, that's not going to be a problem. But if you are on at 5pm, know we are getting together for a Promy run at 6pm, and still choose to join an exp group, that's your decision to make. Whether or not it reflects negatively on you would depend on the situation.

In addition to wanting to ensure that anyone/everyone planning to join for Promyvion BCNM fights (and later CoP mission fights) is prepared with the necessary items/medicine, I also want to take steps to ensure that people aren't taking advantage of the LS to do what they need to get done, and to hell with the rest of the group.

I've already done Promyvion-Dem, and a number of poeple in the LS have already completed other Promyvion BCNMs. That won't stop me from returning to Dem to help others, just as (as you mentioned), the fact that you've completed Holla won't necessarily stop you from joining a Holla BCNM group.

I'm looking to raise the bar with this LS, plain and simple. I'm hoping to attract people with goals, as well as an intention to function as part of a team. Those who fall outside of these expectations will not last long in the LS.

As far as other missions, at this time I have no plans to include things outside of CoP, that's not to say it won't be a feature later on. It depends on the group and what they want to accomplish. Personally, I have goals outside of CoP Missions that I'd like to attend to, but at this time I'd like to stay focussed on the Promyvions and beyond, simply because they are so demanding of everyone involved.

I hope that answers your questions. If you have any more questions, or any concerns about my responses, pls don't hesitate to reply here or send me a /tell in game ^^
#26 Jan 12 2005 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd be very interested in this...but for my RDM character (whos only Lv11 atm) >.< I'd love to get the awsome Lv50 JSE gear for it at sometime, which needs the CoP done. When where you planning on doing them?
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#27 Jan 13 2005 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Well Aurelius,

Hehe I finally read the thread. I am interested bud. I have only done Prom - Dem.

Finishing the other 3 sounds great! Im down.
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I don't foresee any "spur of the moment" LS events happening. Any LS events that take place will be announced as far in advance as possible. If we throw together a Recollection hunting group at the drop of a hat and you're busy, that's not going to be a problem. But if you are on at 5pm, know we are getting together for a Promy run at 6pm, and still choose to join an exp group, that's your decision to make. Whether or not it reflects negatively on you would depend on the situation.

In addition to wanting to ensure that anyone/everyone planning to join for Promyvion BCNM fights (and later CoP mission fights) is prepared with the necessary items/medicine, I also want to take steps to ensure that people aren't taking advantage of the LS to do what they need to get done, and to hell with the rest of the group.

I've already done Promyvion-Dem, and a number of poeple in the LS have already completed other Promyvion BCNMs. That won't stop me from returning to Dem to help others, just as (as you mentioned), the fact that you've completed Holla won't necessarily stop you from joining a Holla BCNM group.

I'm looking to raise the bar with this LS, plain and simple. I'm hoping to attract people with goals, as well as an intention to function as part of a team. Those who fall outside of these expectations will not last long in the LS.

As far as other missions, at this time I have no plans to include things outside of CoP, that's not to say it won't be a feature later on. It depends on the group and what they want to accomplish. Personally, I have goals outside of CoP Missions that I'd like to attend to, but at this time I'd like to stay focussed on the Promyvions and beyond, simply because they are so demanding of everyone involved.

I hope that answers your questions. If you have any more questions, or any concerns about my responses, pls don't hesitate to reply here or send me a /tell in game ^^


Yup, you answered them. As long as I'm (or anyone else) not expected to leave a party to help with something, that's cool. I find it rude when people leave a party to help someone with something and even more rude for a LS to expect someone to drop what they're doing to go help with a spur-of-the-moment event. I'm not one to drop what I'm doing to jump when someone says so, but as long as we have things planned in advance, I'm all for joining. I love helping out, but I need advanced notice. There are a lot of things I'd like to accomplish and finishing the CoP missions is one of them. It'd be cool to get a group of people that work well together to do these.

I log on during the day a lot of times, but I never know when I'm going to have to log off. So I can't do anything during the day. But I log on usually at 10pm CST every night and that's when I can commit to doing some LS events.
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