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#1 Aug 14 2004 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Im a up and coming RNG/NIN/THF and noticed that the couple items ive desired soon and in the long run are raising in price everyday. Emperior Hairpen used to be 300K, now its jumped to a steady 500K. Leaping Boots went from 300 to 400K, along with Winged Boots following the same price. Peacock Charm, im not even gonna go there. Anyone realizing the same thing? Ive went and camped Leaping Lizzy a few times, usually at rare times (8 AM EST) and had 3 people there usually, but lately LL has an average of a dozen people there. :(
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#2 Aug 14 2004 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good
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Notice that life belts price is going dow to about 70k
also. hi crazy, you're on my friend list.
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#3 Aug 15 2004 at 12:30 AM Rating: Decent
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hey, ya i looked over some stuff and it seems some stuff is either jumping up alot, or lowering down. Amemit Mantle (sp) dropped a lot, along with the +1 also. Guess a lot more crafters has been raising in level also. O well, guess ill have to farm a little more to be able to obtain these items.
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#4 Aug 15 2004 at 2:28 AM Rating: Decent
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well I think that the prices are finally starting to go back to what they were before the post christmas fiasco with the prices. Our servers has one of the worst, if not the worst economy. Once school starts back up agian the prices should start to level off again. Lets just hope the 2500 gil for a stack of fire crystals doesn't stick around long cause that's just crazy
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#5 Aug 15 2004 at 2:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Kotes are still 650k, right?

;_;

I want them so I can level........
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#6 Aug 15 2004 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
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lol, Fire Crystals usually go for 3K steady in Bastok. And since the Rusty Cap to Padded Cap Phase came in, the Light Crystals have shot from 7K to 9-11K :)
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#7 Aug 15 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Someones price fixing us all!
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#8 Aug 16 2004 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
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i agree with our server's economy bein inconsistent as hell
#9 Aug 16 2004 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the price of crystals is being artificially raised.

I put a stack up for 2491g, and it sold for 2800g. Hmm...
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#10 Aug 16 2004 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Could that be due to you putting them up for auction, incidentally, at the same time as someone buying them in bulk? Doubtful that someone buying a large quantity is going to go back and lower the price after the last 6 stacks were 2.8k. Just a thought~
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#11 Aug 16 2004 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
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The one thing I HATE about our server is the economy is screwd.
I had almost the 250-300k for my hairpin I went to buy it then Bam it's 450-500k and stayed there ever since. /fume.

Just a tip for the last week Mithkabobs are 2800 in Sandy and 3500 in jeuno.
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#12 Aug 16 2004 at 11:23 AM Rating: Default
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Think about this,,,,

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All you need is 2 ppl. I have started to notice this alot...

One person sells 10 items at lets say 5k higher than par.

The next one buys at that price and returns the items to the first person.

The first person then has the price where thay want them.

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Now do thie with the Hairpin with a bunch of people... Thus raising the price like mad 100-150k.
People then see the price at the inflated price and sell ther emp.pin for that because they see that it can sell for that.


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Now take the first option... For items that are farmed.

Person 1 sells for 2k higher.
Person 2 Buys all of the items in the AH

Money and items are then returned.

Person 1 sells for the price they want and they know that they will sell first because they are at the origonal price or even a little higher.... Everyone looking at price history will see a price that has been Fixed... and sell it for that price less 10.





With all of this being said.......

This is for you to watch out for not to use....

This pisses everyone off and has been going on for too long.

If you see something that is priced too high... then dont buy it... I do not... I have seen prices on items go from 1k-10k and back and I can pretty much tell you when it will happen.... (weekend verses weekday) (summer vaction verses not)


If anyone here sees this and they are doing it....... there isnt realy anything you can do.... but you can go out and farm the items u need. 0r get a group of friends to help you camp the NM.

Just food for thought.


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#13 Aug 16 2004 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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3k for Fire Crystals? Man, I leave for 2 weeks and the economy goes down the drain. When I stopped playing, fire crystals ran for 2k a stack. Now their up to 3k? Geez.
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#14 Aug 16 2004 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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As for the mithkabobs higher priced in Jeuno, that is explained by the AH surcharge.

Fire crystals have come back down again, so you can rest easy, Syrian.

IMO, weekends are crazy-ish. Because XP parties are harder to find, people spend their time crafting and doing other "boring" stuff. Common ingredients skyrocket because demand goes way up, and quantities of goods for sale increase as well. By Tuesday, things stabilize until the next weekend.

The one thing on Seraph I have still never been able to grock, is why don't the dang big ticket items drop in price? Like boots, signa, hairpin and so forth. You would think that eventually they would make their way into more characters hands that need them, so then the quantity sitting in AH would go up and price down. But it doesn't seem to happen, and looks to the observeer as price-fixing.

On the other hand, we all have a hand in this as buyers as well. If we as consumers don't pay the price, it gets returned from the AH and they have to put it up again for less.

Come to think of it, maybe Seraph isn't so whacked, and we are just upset about high prices.

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#15 Aug 16 2004 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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>.< Emp pin = 610 last purchase.

I did an RSE run got boots 'cause they where 50k, so I put them up for 49001, the next day they are 45k... alright fine. I put them up for 45k go away for the weekend comeback to find them in my mail box and the price at the ah 41-3k... WTF.
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#16 Aug 16 2004 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I also noticed that the "big ticket" items as mentioned are going way up, but I'm not even close to 300k so I can wait it out. I have also noticed the high price of crystals lately, and it's been a double-edged sword. Even Earth and Water Crystals are up to 600 a stack.

Although I have never been able to get a good price for a stack of Lizard Tails. You'd think their role in the Quest "Mommy's Helper" would grant them SOME value, but a stack always sells for like 10 or 20 gil. I have to sell them to the NPC...
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#17 Aug 20 2004 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I've noticed on the THF forum that this latest update actually seems to be increasing the cost of items. People have mentioned that when they left (in example) fire crystals were 2.5K and when they returned (presumerable right after the server coming back up) the cost was 3.5K. No correct me if I'm wrong here, but when a server goes "down for mainentence" everything should be on hold?
#18 Aug 20 2004 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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I've noticed on the THF forum that this latest update actually seems to be increasing the cost of items. People have mentioned that when they left (in example) fire crystals were 2.5K and when they returned (presumerable right after the server coming back up) the cost was 3.5K. No correct me if I'm wrong here, but when a server goes "down for mainentence" everything should be on hold?
I think they mean they took a break from the game. Cyrstals going up in price is not a problem i've seen on seraph I always see them Low low low...
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#19 Aug 20 2004 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not understanding how server maintenance can affect prices of crystals, seems crazy to me. Of course, lots of things on Allakazham seem crazy to me, so that doesn't mean much.

If any crystals are removed from the AH during maintenance, that would be a bug. If any crystals were added to the AH by players, that would be impossible. If any crystals were added to the AH by Square, that would be absurd conspiracy theory.

I would expect that player in the thf forum wasn't watching closely and didn't play for a few days and the normal spikes happened and he/she mistakenly confused it for maintenance.
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#20 Aug 20 2004 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I was only using crystals as a reference. This was actually for some armour...however I cant seem to find the orginal thread. This individual stated a huge increase in everything upon his return to his server. From my understanding of the thread, he was an avid player and in my personal opinon didnt seen to step away from the game for any amount of time. Just enough time to let the server go through it's maintenance and him to log back in
#21 Aug 20 2004 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes...due to the many Events held by SE, it comes a trend now that "Oh, Look! Its SUMMERFEST! Let's jack the prices to high heaven!" ......

/kill all idiots jacking up prices

I'm kinda glad my pt always refreshes signet and we get crystals or i'd be screwed when crafting >.<

But I can relate to the inflation on seraph, I would have to farm in ifrits for a day or two or do 10 bcnm runs to get some cash to get an earth staff or dark staff.

But the worst is powder prices lately (-.-) too many fluxes in the prices...5k-8k at sometimes especially weekends ; ;
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#22 Aug 20 2004 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Just find an alchemist for the powders, most of us are fairly nice people ^^
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#23 Aug 20 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Hint Hint

Up and coming Alchemist soon. =P Let me know if you need any powders or silent oils, i should be making them soon.
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#24 Aug 21 2004 at 1:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I hate the rising prices on big-ticket items too. You can't always "just say no"--I needed a Cermet Kukri +1 when our static hit 62 last night, for example, and those things are pretty rare to find on AH. To my surprise, one went up for sale yesterday. There was no way I was going to let it pass and have to wait weeks for another, and since it's a crafted item my only other option would be to level a craft to insanely high levels I don't have the money for. So I caved, and bought it for almost twice the going rate (199k for something that had sold for 100k in 8 out of the 10 previous purchases), because some f*ck decided to jack the price. ><

I think part of the reason for the price jump is that demand is increasing. People who started playing at the PS2 release are hitting the 50-60 level range, and they have money to spend now, so they're finally able to buy the uber NM drops and HQ crafted items. We're seeing demand and price increase without a decline in supply, since all the NMs are constantly camped and we have plenty of high-level JP crafters pumping out the goods. That's what pisses me off--half a dozen Emperor Hairpins are sold every day, it's not like you'll have to wait long for one. >< This is just people exploiting each other. Sigh.
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#25 Aug 21 2004 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
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The sad thing is the price fluctuations go both ways.
A stack of Saplings used to go for anywhere between 110k to 120k in Jeuno and Bastok. Now that everyone and their dog has realised how to grow them you have all these people that can't wait an extra day or two to have their items sold so they drastically undercut the current price.
Stacks of saplings are now going for about 89k in Jeuno and just under 100k in Bastok....

(Mini-rant....)People I know you want your items to sell, if you want to make it quicker unddercut by maybe 500 on expensive items, chances are yours will sell quick. But when "Joe" undercuts the current price by 1k and it sells, then "Stu" comes along and undercuts "Joe" buy another 1k and the bloody cycle just keeps on repeating till the items is reall cheap. By undercutting the AH that much all you are doing is making less money for yourself in the future. (End Rant)
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