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#1 Aug 13 2004 at 2:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Okay, I'm Pendragn. A 59 RDM. And, well, something odd just happened to me that I feel like I need to share.

It's nearly midnight right now in California, and I had my LFG up and was reading a book. I get an invite...

Tamora asks me if I'd like to join, and I ask some questions, like what are the other classes in the party, where we're going. Normal stuff, right?

Well, I say "Okay, I'll join" and I join up, and I look and see everyone but me is level 62...

Now, I'll be the one suffering the XP here, and after debating it, and the hour, I tell the leader. Here's how it went.

/t Tamora Yeah, Tamora, I decided it's rather late and I'd be the one suffering the XP. I changed my mind. ^_^ I'm really sorry, I didn't know the level gap.

Tamora goes on to tell me "Well, I have a 75 RDM and it doesn't matter with a 3 level difference, it matters when there's a 6 level difference"

I still push my point...and I decided to leave.

This is what I get.

Tamora: Alright, thank you and consider yourself blisted.

A few minutes later, the NIN in our party, Mills, /tells me (thank you) (black list)

Now...was I wrong? I don't think I' should really have to ask the level range of the parties, and I was 9k from leveling. Nor do I think that I should be black listed for looking out for myself.

Did I do something wrong? Was I wrong? I feel kinda bad...if any of you know me, I may be weird sometimes but I never thought I'd be so bad as to warrant a black listing...

-Pen.
#2 Aug 13 2004 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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Not at all. What probably happened is they had been waiting for a long time for a RDM or WHM job. When they finally get one, you don't want to join. I wouldn't take it personally. You were not wrong to say <lets keep our levels close>. That's your choice, after all you're suffering an xp loss.

However that being said, is it not acceptable at lvl 60+ to have lvl gaps of 3-4 due to lack of players at times?

As far as the /blist goes. That was just plain childish and immature. It's a way insecure people feel better about a situation by getting the last word in.

Please feel free to agree or disagree, this is my opinion.
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#3 Aug 13 2004 at 7:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I dont think what you did was wrong or worthy of a blacklist. Whenever I look for a spot I need in a group I will do a search within 2 levels of my current level. The only time I will invite someone 3 levels lower is if they are very close to leveling and the rest of us are not.

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Well, I have a 75 RDM and it doesn't matter with a 3 level difference, it matters when there's a 6 level difference"


6 level difference? Hmm, never have I been in a party with that wide of a gap. I couldnt imagine my 55 PLD playing with a 50 DRK or RDM. First, if they were melee they would probably be missing way to often because the mobs we level off of are way higher than what they should be fighting. If it were a Mage, I am guessing the debuffs wouldnt have stuck very often either, and the nukes would be resisted a lot more?

I wouldnt worry about it too much, you will still get invites I am sure. I still dont see how you could get blisted for that. If I did end up asking you to join and you joined without knowing the level gap and then found out that you were 3 levels lower than everyone, I would have understood you leaving. I might have been a little disappointed because it can be hard to form a party sometimes, but in no way would that result in a blist. If I were to ask you to join I would have told you the level gap and asked if it was alright before I invied you but that is just me.
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#4 Aug 13 2004 at 8:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've partied with both of them before.

Mills...I wasn't really there long enough to make an opinon of him.

Tamora was a know it all to me as well. She left our party for a trivial reason that I don't even recall. This was in Kazham, and she kept flaunting how she had a higher lvl job.

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Of course you were free to do what you did. I see this as a personal issue, because sometimes we forget that there are real people behind every character. Unless they bring a gun and force you to pt with them, it's all pretty cut-and-dried.

Assuming you registered your concerns with reasonable comportment (which I do not doubt), s/he has no rational basis for blacklisting you. The point was made that they are probably just frustrated after waiting for quite some time, which I am sure you understand.

Seraph is a nice server, and the vast majority of people are very nice and helpful (in my experience), but unstable ones like this really don't deserve a second thought. The fact that you even stopped to engage in self-reflection means you are light-years more mature. Don't think twice about it, because there are far better reasons to give yourself stress and an ulcer.
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#6 Aug 13 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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I'm always invited to a pt where I'm a lvl too low and suffer.. I HATE it. Especialy when it's that lvl block where one person is a lvl higher and all the mobs drop from IT to vt or T and they won't leave so now after chain #4 130exp... No thanks.

I've pt'd with mills before as well, good player has a high drk and nin jobs but kinda stuck up too.
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I don't see anything wrong with what you did. You realized the level gap was far too much, and you disbanded from the party in the nicest way you knew how.


As far as the people you were partying with declaring they are going to blacklist you, they sound like your typical arrogant asses to me.

I've read many people hate those two on Killing Ifrit as well(Tamora especially). The reason? They think Tamora is just.....well...a ***** to put it bluntly.

I wouldn't know personally, as I haven't ever partied with this said person.

But in response to another person on this thread referring to arrogance, I gotta know something.

What is the DEAL with some people automatically becoming so arrogant at higher levels? Being a higher-level, or having an extremely high-level character does NOT give you the incentive to rudely boss anyone around, brag, or act like a jerk to those lower than yourself.
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#8 Aug 13 2004 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
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The level gap is very over-stated.

Just for fun a buddy invited me to PT with his LS, and we were 14-14-15-18-18-19 and somehow (I seriously do not know how it worked) we were able to chain mobs IT to the 19 and still have everyone get at least 150+ exp on a standard, non-chain fight.
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#9 Aug 13 2004 at 6:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd better preface this message by saying that no, Pendragn, you did nothing wrong. It's your prerogative to decline a party invite for any reason, or to reconsider accepting one upon joining. It's not like you waited five fights, then said "screw this, I'm gone." It was pretty childish of Tamora and the NIN to taunt you with blacklisting afterwards.

That said, I think your concern about the level gap is a tad high. While a melee job 3 levels below the rest of the party might have trouble contributing during fights, a mage job can still do just fine (although, doubtless, some of your enfeebles would have had trouble sticking).

The way the penalty for level differences works is kind of confusing. Here's a link to a guide:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=171

Your penalty for being level 59 while the rest of the party is level 62 will only be 4.8%. Even on a mob which yielded exactly 200 base XP, you'd still receive 190. Of course, at that high level, I can see why you'd not want to lose that 10 XP per battle, because it can really add up over time and you need a lot of XP to gain levels. But I think I've made my actual point, which was that the XP penalty you'd get in such a party wouldn't really be all that terrible.
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#10 Aug 13 2004 at 6:28 PM Rating: Good
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Okay, I need to preface this by saying I'm biased, and I'm in Pen's linkshell, and that I'm one of the ones that was talking to him about the level difference issues initially.

The problem doesn't just lie in the fact that he'd be getting a bit less xp though. At a 4 level gap, he'd also be useful for nothing more as a refresh bot, and occasional healing. The rest of his abilities would have been nearly worthless for lack of ability to land debuffs or nukes for magic bursts, due to being that much lower level than the group.

Personally, I'd never accept an invite in his shoes with that gap, because I'd feel like a leech. Because I wouldn't be able to perform at the top of my ability. I've seen too many people who try to get by on their bare minimum of ability or equipment, but Pen isn't like that. I know this from experience with him, and a gap like that, would have driven me personally insane.
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#11 Aug 13 2004 at 11:45 PM Rating: Good
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Wow. So not surprised. :\

I've also partied with the people you named, Pen, and know for sure I'm on Mills's blist (or at least was) and probably his friends' as well. From my dealings with/observation of Mills and his friends, they do seem for the most part to be elitist pricks. They're NA players (importers I'd guess? or early-adopter PC players) with high rank and multiple high-level jobs. What earned me a place on their blists was--joined a party Mills was in as his PLD out in Quicksand Caves, our RDM has a RL emergency and logged out mid-fight, Mills had to use his 2hr, then after that he said he was going to "cut his losses" and disbanded. I'd also been in several parties with him before where he decided to up and leave at his whim whenever something displeased him in the slightest, so I commented to the then-tankless party that he'd done that to groups I'd been in before--it was an objective observation devoid of any insult. One of his friends/acquaintances/whatever was still in the party, and told him what I'd just said. Mills sent me a couple snooty tells saying oh, so I talk behind people's backs do I, and that I wouldn't be in any parties with him again, then blisted me.

I'm sure that group of people can be very nice, and I've heard many of them are great players, but from what I've seen they're just a **** little clique of high levels. Several others in my LS have also interacted with a few of them, and what do you know, they have the same reaction...skilled players, but elitist and vindictive. I've always been bothered by this particular group, so in a way I'm sort of relieved to hear that my dealings with them weren't isolated events and that they truly are *ssclowns. :P

Anyway. Ardahl also made an excellent point--sure, as a RDM you could be useful in a group of people several levels higher than you and your XP would be okay if they compensated by fighting harder mobs for your lower level...but you'd be useful for what you could do for them, not for anything you could throw at the mobs. Refreshbot, healbot...sounds thrilling. :\ For a WHM it wouldn't be a problem, if they were willing to deal with a small XP cut, but RDM casts on both its own party members and the mob. You weren't at all in the wrong, and you politely tried to excuse yourself from a situation that was a compromise for you to begin with.

Don't let it get you down. Their reaction was totally uncalled for, and not at all surprising. :\
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#12 Aug 14 2004 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
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The level gap at low levels may not mean much (not discussing the lower xp issue here), but at higher levels, your weakness to the mob really shows up.

In low levels as a pld it seemed I was always the lowest level, typically by 3. Even then, trying to tank things a few levels higher than normal was a bit difficult, but a if I were to try to tank a mob now at 50, that is being xp'd off by level 53's, I'd get owned. Your talking 25-60 a hit verse 60-120 a hit on standard hits...lets not mention the crits...
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#13 Aug 14 2004 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I would of done what you did... Its your choice if you want to leave or not. She was just being stuck up... I've pted with her before and she normally acts like a no it all. So don't worry yourself over it man.
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Hey look at it this way,.... you are a rdm and in high levels you dont realy need to worry much about lfg... lol.... **** them and the horse they are up on... that is why we are able to level with who we want or when we want to.... If they want to blacklist them ... send them a /tell back in case they didnt yet blist to hear a response... (thank you)

They may have done you a favor... lol! I dont like leveling with over a 2 gap difference... hate gets messed up and the xp loss isnt worth the food at times to level 1 level. But when you have no choice then you have no choice.

just put in your search

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No more than 3 lev diff.
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#15 Aug 15 2004 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I used to be in the same LS as Mills and Tamora, and yes they are a bunch of elitist pricks. My friend sat in jeuno for 5 hours one day LFG, found a party, 20 minutes later the LS wanted his help for something. He said no, so Mills kicked my friend and me out of the LS. Possibly one of the best things to ever happen to me in that game, in a much better (friendly non-elitist prick) LS now.
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I used to be in the same LS as Mills and Tamora, and yes they are a bunch of elitist pricks. My friend sat in jeuno for 5 hours one day LFG, found a party, 20 minutes later the LS wanted his help for something. He said no, so Mills kicked my friend and me out of the LS. Possibly one of the best things to ever happen to me in that game, in a much better (friendly non-elitist prick) LS now.
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#17 Aug 15 2004 at 2:26 AM Rating: Good
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well pend you weren't wrong, but I can see where they were coming form with the 3 level difference. I have been in a few xp pts post 60 where we had a 3 level difference, and I was on the low end. It's hard if your a melee on the low end, but a rdm woulda been fine. I've heard of some others who've had problems with em but I haven't had too many issues when I've done rank missions or other stuff with em. Definately not worth the blist but that sadly is some of the good rude people compared to the other ones. As a side note just because your a rdm doesn't mean that you can't sit lfg for a long time. I have sat lfg for about 4 hours synthing funds away one day until I got a pt invite, it's not like I have bad gear either but oh well
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#18 Aug 18 2004 at 4:24 AM Rating: Default
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Pen,

I'm sorry if you do not understand the way the xp chart works. While I never cared to be the lowest level it honestly does not make a difference. You lose like 10 xp per kill or so when there is a certain level gap. It takes a long time and lot of xp to level past 61 30k+ every level. I have been in plenty of PTs where I am like 4 or 5 levels under after 60, as the main healer and the refresh bot. It gets old but **** there is not much you can do about it with the limited amount of people that stick with a job past 60. After 65 at least 60 some odd percent start a new job so there is less to work with, sometimes PT leaders tend to get desperate.

I have never had trouble landing my enfeebles as long as I was within 3 levels of the highest player. So you will not be by default the "refresh bot" When you are sitting there seeking all day long and the only PT invite you can get is one where a few people are a level or two higher than you like are you going to pass? Are you really going to sit there for the next 5 hours and pray that someone makes a PT? At 65+ it gets harder and harder to get invites no matter what job simply because there is nothing out there seeking.


One thing that annoys me is people putting up seek and then not bothering to have enough time to level. I am getting tired of making PTs for my THF invite people then have them leave before we even leave fing jeuno.

No I am not an elitist prick, I played one job to 75 and I have a fairly good idea of what you can do to make a good PT. I blist people now because I am tired of dealing with the same BS every night trying to make a PT.


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What LS are you talking about? Neither mills nor I have ever been a leader of an LS nor do I have any idea who you are.

Morpheusss,

I would only think of inviting a mage that is lower than the melee. With melee I always make sure to invite them to be the correct level range, for instance 63+ in Labyrinth of Onzozo otherwise you cannot hit the toramas there due to the extremely high evasion.

Edited, Wed Aug 18 05:31:42 2004 by RDMTamora

Edited, Wed Aug 18 05:40:07 2004 by RDMTamora
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#19 Aug 18 2004 at 4:57 AM Rating: Default
Wee for useless bashing. Here's some back!

You were desperate for someone to fill the PT spot, someone with Refresh. You saw Monsieur Wolfy and decided that he would be perfect for refilling the MP gauges. Monsieur Wolfy joins, decides he doesn't like the party and leaves. Insert whining and childish behavior at this point. "OMFG I BLACKLIST JOO SILLY NOOB!!" <SecondMoron> "0MFG I B1@C|<1I$T J00 W/ 1337 @UT0-Tr@n$1@t0r!!"

I'm pretty sure he was using the time thing as an excuse. Way to think that one through.

You probably are an elitest prick. :-D Have fun.
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I usually just let people think what the must, if they have to complain on forms and whine just to make other people look bad. But i just wanted to respond to two posts.

To the guy who said i kicked him from said LS. Get real dude, quit making stuff up... its pointless. I have never been the leader of any linkshell aside from the one I have right now. And in this one I have right now there are maybe 5 very close friends in it none of which have been you (whoever you are) and i have never kicked anyone out of it. Also the only LS i was in with Tamora was HA and I never even had a pearl sack there, so please stop with your lies.

And this is to Villainelle. Yes i do remember who you are and what happened, and let me start by giving a bit of background and then fill in all the facts that you left out making you look like a saint. First off yes I am a 75 drk, i played this job to level 75 getting no pts, begging and scratching my whole way thru. I know how it is to play a melee job and how frustrating and time consuming it can be. I got in a party or two with you and realized that you were a thief that knew what you were doing, and i respect that. Knowing how hard it is to get pts in melees anytime we were looking for one I suggested that they picked you up when you were seeking, simply because I knew what to expect and considered you to be a decent friend at the time. Now playing a paladin which is highly wanted and gets parties very very easy, I had a certain pull when it came to finding members. Well we leveled together for a bit, then got in one horrid party. It was in quicksand caves and as soon as we got there the red mage lagged out. It took nearly an hour to get a new one out there and drove me to the point of severe frustration. But i figured hell, i have been in the pt this long might as well give it a shot. First kill took about 15 minutes, invincible and there were deaths. The party was garbage, don't remember why or how but it was crap. After that first kill our new red mage we waited about an hour for had to go. I don't remember any emergency, i just remember a (have stuff to do gotta go!). And yes, i said **** this im cutting my losses and I instant warped. I wasted over an hour in this party, needed to use and waste my 2hr on the first fight and it turns out we couldnt even function as a party, AND we would have to wait for yet another red mage to arrive. Not worth the time or effort. I remember messaging you and saying sorry, because you were the only person in the pt i knew, and i moved on. A bit later i get a tell from some guy saying "blah blah i hate you i cant believe you left and i hear you do this all the time". Now I cannot recall one time leaving a party in this fashion, and especially one i was in with you. So after talking to him and apologizing i found out that it was you of all people that said this about me. Being a person who wouldnt know anything about this in the first place, and being someone who I had thought in the back of my head that I was helping out by getting you pt invites.... this was a bite in the @ss. And earned you your spot on my blacklist.

Many of you might think of me as an @ss or an elitiest, and hey I might just be. But for those who have taken the time to get to know me, they know otherwise. I've played this game thru now and I know how to play my jobs and how to put together a good party. I don't harass or give hard times to people who don't know how to play thier jobs, I will sometimes give them some tips or try to help them out or just simply don't invite them next time.
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Nice change! Now finally we hear both sides of the story. I completely understand your sides now Tamora and Mills. It's totally your right to /blist anyone you would not rather play with. But don't you think it childish to send him a /tell "consider yourself /blisted"? That's a little immature don't your think? Look at me i just got the last word in!! /blist add pendragon. If you would perfer not to deal with people seeking and leaving after invites just /blist them and be done with it.

Although you were annoyed at him, I'm of the opnion he was not wrong in anyway. It is after all just a game. Don't make him feel bad. I personally have only /blisted one person and what was done was so wrong that it warrented a /tell /blist.

Anyone may disagree but isn't that the point of the threads?
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I figured you only meant inviting a lower mage, but I still was not sure if the enfeebles would stick as much. But you and Anklebiter have proved me wrong.

I still would not have blisted you if I was in Tamora's shoes but that is just me. I know it can be frustrating waiting for a mage to pop up that you have been looking for for a while, only to have them tell you that the party is not going to work for them. So you have the right to Blist Pen, and he/she has the right to not join the party if he/she feels it is not going to go well. I have not partied with either you nor Mills so I have no idea if you are elitist a@@es or not and will not make a judgement call until I do. Just my opinion ^^.


/wave Anklebiter . Did you just join up recently? I havent seen you on here before.
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Yeh to the defence of ppl that leave at time..... alot of time there are parties that can not function because of the timing everyone has or thier job combinations and makeup...... I am one of those people who leave. But i do always give them the benefit of the doubt and ask them whats wrong. Hey it could even be me that the problem is but either way i try to have fun and If i am stuck lvling someting that I don't realy enjoy sometimes it isnt thir fault but my own :P And I can admit my mistakes...


On the other hand dont take it too personally when people leave.... People sometime do have a life to worry about outside the game and things happen. People can get frustrated and some get angry,,,, Most others just dont care.... I i get blacklisted then that is fine. But I also give people the benefit of the doubt when they are actually nice about it... "Guys this pt isnt going to work . I am sorry I am takin off... Ty for the PT :)

The funniest thing was when I recieved a LS from a friend ad I noticed that there was a person I had blisted previously for rude behaviour and just simply he was a jerk with me.....
I unblacklisted him and said: "Hey <name> I had you on my blacklist list. You were a real **** with me a while ago. Why were u that way?

he replied: " I was just having a bad day lol! I am sorry about the way i was.

So then it was forgotten and the rest of the shell made fun of him and had a good laugh about it.


But remember that people can have bad days and if they are realy rude then you can always be thankfull you dont have to deal with them anymore.

If someone wants to leave the group then that is fine as well... they are allowed to do that....

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#24 Aug 20 2004 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's a solution to the problem don't bring it to the forums, form a static and avoid the troubles of searching for people. But that was kinda silly of Tam to send a /tell that you were blisted, maybe Tam was having a bad day? Remember not all of us have all day timeframes to play ffxi, we do like to do things other than idling in town all day :)
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I think I'll add something more here...just saw the rebuttal replies..

So you.....blacklist people because they either have an emergency situation or RL event situation arise, or they politely leave your party(in Wolfy's case) because they honestly felt the XP gap might be a little too high? Not because of any hostility, or disagreement but because they didn't want to lose considerable XP?

I'm sorry, but that just makes you a jerk. Period.

I also like how you said you weren't an elitist, but then turn right around and brag about your Lv. 75 RDM and how you KNOW how to create a party and various things such as that IN THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE.

If someone has to go, someone has to go. Even if it is something like EXP difference. There are ALWAYS replacements avaliable.

I'm not even 65+ yet, but I know for a fact that if I do a /sea all of a particular job class at 60+ I will find at least ONE person from each class or a class I need with his/her flag up in Jueno.

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Blacklisting someone for leaving your party because you didn't inform them of the level difference and they decided it was too much for their tastes is inappropriate.

Rubbing it in their face with "consider yourself blacklisted," as if being on your blacklist is an extremely significant punishment that should cause them to feel great shame, is just plain childish.

There is a difference between having game experience and being an elitist prick. I believe we know which side of the fence Tamora and Mills fall on.
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#27 Aug 20 2004 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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RoyalWolfy wrote:
A few minutes later, the NIN in our party, Mills, /tells me (thank you) (black list)



Thats the entire problem right there. Partying with Mills.

I know this guy from Counter-strike some years ago, me and numerous friends have had beef with him over numerious subjects.
He is a 16 year old **** who has no concept of life.

Don't feel bad, Mills was just pushing his brainwashing ways over the simple minded.
#28 Aug 21 2004 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Trust me Pen you did nothing rong. I have had those before with my white mage and I awalys feel like a jerk but I finnaly relized that I acculy have brains to make smart decisions. You just fine and I bet you a much better red mage than Tamora (if she even has one).

But this Tamora really sounds like this other person I know, Herodavid. Seems like they could almost be the same Person. This is where I had the same expirence with my white mage. I was lvl 10 had just dinged from 9. I was lvling in the highlands and I get invited to his party. So I accept thinking that it is a samll party in the highlands. I get in and they are all in the dunes and all lvl 14. I told herodavid that I don't even have cure II so that he should find another whm. Than we got into and he is to this day the only person on my black list.
#29 Aug 21 2004 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default
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Well, I shouldn't be posting, since I kinda know all 3 of these people, but I just HAVE to post because I'm a 65 rdm and everyone else just HAS to post their opinion, so I won't fit in if I don't!!! :P (Hi Pendragn, Tamora and Mills!!! /wave)

As a 65 rdm, I can get better xp pting with people 4 levels higher than me that a pt my level >.< I personally will never join a pt if I'm the highest level, or if the melee's are lower level than the mage's...It confuses alot of people, but I don't LIKE getting hate, Stoneskin only holds enemies off for a few hits at most...

And it is NOT super easy to find a pt as a rdm....at least not 6 weeks ago when I last levelled....too many other rdm's, and since I stopped everyone else reached 75 ; ; lol (Rather be spending time with the man I love ~_^)

A rdm's main job is to refresh, enfeeble, enhance, MB when possible and occasionally heal in that order...unless the rdm is gotten for main healer of course.

It is very frustrating to people if they invite you to a pt and after you join, you change your mind...I may oftentimes frustrate people in the time it takes me to decide whether to join or not, but I usually ask them to wait a few moments while I consider, and most people are really good about waiting a few minutes for me to think about it...which would be better than deciding after you join to leave. (Usually my problem's not the levelbut deciding whether I can stand being away from my sweetie, or stay up long enough to be useful lol)

I have only blacklisted 3 people so far....but I always remove them later....although a few people tend to prove that some things never change...I don't know if I've ever been blacklisted, but I have had a few arguements with people over things I considered moral wrongs, but everyone's entitled to their own opinions, and no one can expect everyone to agree with them...

I do my best to get along with everyone, but in my experience, some people just don't wanna get along with anyone =/

On a side note, it can be really fun to brag about your high level, and I have been guilty of such myself, being in a low level pt, and looking for any excuse to mention my 65 rdm :P I'm proud of how hard I worked to hit 65, and I love to tell people about the hard work I've done :)

Last of all, alot of people who "/tell /blist <name>" just do that to express anger (friends do it to each other for fun sometimes :P)...just because someone says that, doesn't mean they'll blist you for real, then some people will blist you and not tell you (at leat in my case, I don't think I ever told any of them that I blisted them, just did it for a while so as to not hear their whining)

Most important thing...don't forget that it's JUST A GAME, and meant to have fun and make friends, not enemies. Up until a couple of months ago, this game was my life, and I tended to forget that it was just a game, because it wasn't to me, but reminding yourself of that will help you to enjoy the game more and argue less I hope :) Have fun playing all, and maybe I'll see you in-game soon!

Edited, Sun Aug 22 02:10:46 2004 by Prettycat
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