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#1 Mar 07 2010 at 5:01 AM Rating: Sub-Default
whats w/ ppl saying bad sh** about other ppl's gear?

Example:
I got a merit pt together at 3am pst, so it's a bi*** just to get ppl, and I'm told by the rdm that my gears giimp cause I've been wearing it since last month whn we last merit pt together.
So he leaves and kills the pt and ****'s the rest of the pt off.

I'm a taru drg who's lvling nin, and sch which is killing my gil. Drg is my DD job and I realy dont have time to farm cause I've got other sh** to do.
Hint: he argued that my neck, back and feet were bad and should have been changed,
Neck: Fang Necklace
Back: Amement Mantle
Feet: Wonder Clomps

fyi. I hate ppl who do this since I and others have put up w/ ppl with gimp/gimp to hell gear. We all been there w/ ppl like this or been one of those ppl.
#2 Mar 07 2010 at 5:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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phantasydragon wrote:

Neck: Fang Necklace
Back: Amement Mantle
Feet: Wonder Clomps


I hate to be that guy, but a couple of those things are downright shocking at lv.75. Not even having a spike necklace over a fang necklace is pretty poor, and a Chivalrous Chain is affordable or you can get it for free from Assault Points. Wonder Clomps are replaceable with many things that are better, one of the easiest to get being Amir Boots or, preferably, Dusk Ledelsens.

Though I wouldn't leave a pt over an Amemet Mantle, i'll let that one slide.

The thing is that people don't want to party with people who can't even put in a small amount of effort to improve their job (and the upgrades I mentioned really are only a small amount of effort to obtain). The fang necklace, more than anything else, is completely inexcusable. If you don't want to put in the effort to better yourself then that's your decision, but you need to be aware of the fact that many people aren't going to want you to join events or merit parties because of it.
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#3 Mar 07 2010 at 5:12 PM Rating: Default
I checked the prices on the items you placed for boots and well I cant do assualts cause I only got 3 months and I still got to do CoP, RoZ, and rank missions with my prime ls. BUT I will try to do some and see what assualt is about and if its good I'll try for the amir boots.

neck wise I cant farm like everyone thinks the most I've ever got from the tower in the island was 40k on a good day(really it takes my 24 real hrs to get this), also spells for nin/tools and sch is killing my gil(I know we all go through these).
if you got a faster or better place PLZ let me know, times ticking for me and I'm trying to get rank done as well as get further in CoP then 4.2 with my prime ls.

......where's the best place to farm fast and get good profit from it(no crafting)?

I farm with my 75DRG/32THF
#4 Mar 07 2010 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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phantasydragon wrote:
...cause I only got 3 months...


Why only 3 months? FFXI is not a game to be taken at a hundred miles an hour.

Besides that, as far as farming spots go, while I can't divulge my own personal methods (cause then everyone would do it) I can give you the advice of just browsing the AH or ffxiah.com and seeing what sells quick and for decent gil. Then check wiki to see where those things come from and, if it's something you're capable of doing that doesn't have a crap drop rate, there's your new farming spot.

If you're trying to rush though so many things in such a short time though, then I don't think farming much is on the cards for you. If you're really just trying to clear missions, then you'll just have to do it as a flaming gimp and do it with friends who support your endeavour of getting through the stories fast, and ignore anyone who pays out your gear (this of course means forfeiting chances at meriting and such, but if you're just aiming for mission clears, why merit?)
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#5 Mar 08 2010 at 1:58 AM Rating: Good
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phantasydragon wrote:
Neck: Fang Necklace
Back: Amement Mantle
Feet: Wonder Clomps

fyi. I hate ppl who do this since I and others have put up w/ ppl with gimp/gimp to hell gear. We all been there w/ ppl like this or been one of those ppl.
No, you don't put up with others with gimp gear. You feel at home with people that have gimp gear, while forcing the dwindling number of remaining party members who may POSSIBLY not suck total *** to cover for more than one person's complete lack of effort.

No, we haven't all been one of those persons wearing a f*cking fang necklace at level 75. Because that's gimpy sh*t. Don't ever join a merit party again until you fix that garbage.

If you seriously have so little time for the game that you can't even scrounge together the gil for a spike necklace before 75 despite the fact that spike necklace is garbage far before then... quit. Do everyone and yourself a favor and leave this game and never come back. Nobody will have to deal with your ineptness, you won't have to deal with constant rejection and scorn from most of the things you do in the game. The more parties you join the more people will remember your name and associate it with failure, and refuse to invite you back.

Give up now while you're already miserably far behind.



Edited, Mar 8th 2010 2:03am by bsphil
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#6 Mar 08 2010 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
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bsphil wrote:
No, you don't put up with others with gimp gear. You feel at home with people that have gimp gear, while forcing the dwindling number of remaining party members who may POSSIBLY not suck total *** to cover for more than one person's complete lack of effort.

No, we haven't all been one of those persons wearing a f*cking fang necklace at level 75. Because that's gimpy sh*t. Don't ever join a merit party again until you fix that garbage.

If you seriously have so little time for the game that you can't even scrounge together the gil for a spike necklace before 75 despite the fact that spike necklace is garbage far before then... quit. Do everyone and yourself a favor and leave this game and never come back. Nobody will have to deal with your ineptness, you won't have to deal with constant rejection and scorn from most of the things you do in the game. The more parties you join the more people will remember your name and associate it with failure, and refuse to invite you back.

Give up now while you're already miserably far behind.


Well. I was trying to be polite and tactful about it. But yeah, pretty much this for anything group related.
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#7 Mar 08 2010 at 7:35 PM Rating: Default
Chain wise I'm trying to get the chivalrous chain now

feet wise I got the gavial greaves for now and I'm macroing wonder clomps in for penta, FYI the gavial greaves on with penta going on really destroyed my dmg it went from doing up to at least 700 to barlly getting 600. the wonder clomps are not leaveing till I can find a better pair. and yes your going to say why dont you get something better those suck, well idc they give me VIT, AGI, Attack, and damage taken down and they were cheap.

back wise idc what ppl say or think amement mantle is fu** good and after I find try to get some farming in I'll get the +1


amir boots are to har to get since I dont know ppl that can really help me since my ls has events and more then half are never really on.
The dusk boots are way to expensive for me, with my luck I'd be farming my a** off for a month.


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Off hand, bsphll you should change your main body from SH to a mage gear, and dont sit there saying "oh I macro in gear for cureing, dude idc if your gana talk sh** about my gear I'm gana talk sh** about yours. Get your rdm af at least
#8 Mar 09 2010 at 3:44 AM Rating: Decent
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phantasydragon wrote:
Off hand, bsphll you should change your main body from SH to a mage gear, and dont sit there saying "oh I macro in gear for cureing, dude idc if your gana talk sh** about my gear I'm gana talk sh** about yours. Get your rdm af at least
lolwut

Are you even talking about DRG? Considering you seem to have a vast misunderstanding of how the majority of the game works, as evidenced here:

phantasydragon wrote:
feet wise I got the gavial greaves for now and I'm macroing wonder clomps in for penta, FYI the gavial greaves on with penta going on really destroyed my dmg it went from doing up to at least 700 to barlly getting 600..


If you're lucky STR+2 will raise your DMG by 1, not by 16.7% you mouth breathing dolt. But anyway:

Screenshot

And RDM AF? Too bad I've had that since 2006. Jesus christ you're bad at this. How about a black magic based enfeeble like gravity?

Screenshot

Oh sh*t son I should really get that AF body. And definitely request that AF hat to replace my AF+1 hat. Sh*t, my RDM is retired and I've got better gear for it than you'll ever have for any of your jobs you'll ever level.

Quit now while you're even further behind.





Addendum: God all this time I thought I'd give you just an ounce of credit for doing some hastily prepared research in order to come up with an ad hominem argument for being so willfully incompetent. Maybe looking at my old FFXI character profile to try and dig up some dirt? Turns out you're even more dense than I give you credit for. You're breaking your own record for failure.

phantasydragon wrote:
Late one night when NO ONE was on seek but a few ppl that could be used for a merit pt. bsphll is a rdm and says that my gears crap and leaves, even though I as well as others have put up w/ worse. he was the only rdm out there and he ditchs us.
I don't know who you think I was, but I haven't been on Ragnarok since August.




Edited, Mar 9th 2010 4:01am by bsphil
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#9 Mar 09 2010 at 4:34 AM Rating: Default
OK my bad, I'm sory just you said I've been wearing the same gear since last month and he said that too.
his name is Zireal, and he was an *** to the pt I was in.
#10 Mar 09 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
Your gear selection is pretty shockingly bad... you have to understand and not to defend anyone for dropping the party since it does effect the entire group. It isnt necessarily fun in the least bit to heal a merit party and you cant blame him for expecting your gear to at the very least be average.

It is not that difficult to save gil... you saying what was it.. it takes you 24hrs to farm 40k ? and on a good day>? what are you doing with all those beastman seals and kindred seals you have been collecting? why dont you start there or... what about selling IP gold coins from the points you get meriting... 20k xp per hr= 18k gil per hr in IP gold x24hrs= 432k?? thats a little more then your 40k on a good day lol

So please next time you think ppl are acting "elitest" by judging your gear, they are viewing you as disrespectful and lazy for not making any attempt at all to try and keep up and do your part.

gluck to you

Edited, Mar 10th 2010 5:49pm by mooki
#11 Mar 10 2010 at 9:18 PM Rating: Default
I wish I could do the IP coins but ppl dont buy anymore, ssoo I cant do that but I'm trying to farm the hell out of the tower but if any can help on farming plz help
#12 Mar 10 2010 at 9:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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What the heck is the rest of your gear?
#13 Mar 11 2010 at 4:18 AM Rating: Good
ppl. do buy I.P.gold coins...... sell them on AH
or like i said before bcnm and ksnm... you will not only get I.P. from meriting you will collect beastman and kindred seals.

Stop wasting your time in the tower unless you are farming the trigger for alky bracelet. Do you have an alky bracelet? af+1? what are you using for your ws macro?

You can also try farming Labyrinth of Onzozo for cockatrice meat, or farm Gobbues. What exactly are you farming inside the tower?

You need a chiv chain or peacock charm, and you need to work on getting Sea access then work on getting your gorgets....They are removing the lvl cap. on CoP zones and making That expansion even easier... So get Sea and join a limbus group and work on getting some of the tp gear your lacking (homam).

I dont know how else i can direct you, you keep focusing on the tower and farming and it doesn't sound to me like you are really litening to anyone.
#14 Mar 11 2010 at 5:19 PM Rating: Default
ok I'll do the IP thing and see how it goes since last time hopefully ppl buy this time.

The tower I farm shards, cotton cloths, emeth pick(whn I get the key), Huge moth axe(whn it drops), mercury.

I did get the chain finally and working on new macro boots.
this is my gear so far:
Weapon: Colossal lance
Grip: mythril grip+1
Ammo: Bibiki Seashell
Head: Walahra Turban (WS: Wyvern Helm)
Neck: Chivalrous Chain
L.ear: coral earring
R.ear: coral earring
Body: Scorpion Harness
Hands: wonder mitts
L.ring: Ecphoria ring (WS: Sun Ring)
R.ring: Sun ring
Back: Amement mantle
Belt: potent belt
Legs: Barone Cosciales
Feet: Gavial Greaves (WS: Wonder Clomps)

Yes, my gear sux I kno we all see that thats y I'm trying to get gil fast so I can fix this

NO I do not farm or care for the braclets the gigas drop, If i find one I'll sell it but thats about it

I only got a couple months left to play FFXI so limbus/sea/sky/etc. are out of the question. I em part of dynamis but that really all I can do for now.

Edited, Mar 11th 2010 3:20pm by phantasydragon
#15 Mar 12 2010 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
what do you mean you only have a couple months left to play ffxi? and if so why bother with any of this? Am I the only one confused atm? lol
#16 Mar 14 2010 at 10:19 PM Rating: Default
I kno I should stop now cause I wouldn't get much done but you kno this is the only really good game I got for the 360 and I bet the hell out of all the other games.

and I'm tired of ppl ******** about my gear when I'm doing decent dmg for now.

fyi I just got my drg relic hands which give acc.+5 so thats my new hands( wonder mitts r macro for WS)

my ls is now gana do gear runs so hopfully I can get some gear pieces, that is if the ppl show.
#17 Mar 15 2010 at 12:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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LOL ... wow. Uh yeah, your gear is ... really bad. Did you level sync all the way to 75? FoV? I wouldn't have allowed you to stay in one of my parties after seeing your gear honestly. Rude? Sure. A teaching lesson to gimp players? Absolutely. I am of the mindset that everyone deserves an equal chance to party, but when they show up in gear that you could farm the gil for by leveling a few jobs to 10 ... not on my watch. This has to be a troll.
#18 Mar 15 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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phantasydragon wrote:
and I'm tired of ppl ******** about my gear when I'm doing decent dmg for now.


That's the thing though. With that gear, your damage isn't anywhere near decent.
#19 Mar 17 2010 at 5:37 PM Rating: Good
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lol I see an insomnia earring.
#20 Mar 20 2010 at 7:44 PM Rating: Default
ok ppl tell me what should I farm for and dont say some insane that goes over about 400k cause seriuously I got a team thats telling me my gear is ok, "yes, you could get better gear".

My ls is also doing gear hunt runs and all I'm seeing is the Aces Helm and thats it.
fyi the gear hunts are only nm's the ls can get to so shut up about the Ohat, the ls and I arent gana spend time getting that dam item/items for the dam nm to spawn.

and I'm not going for the forgers mantle, to expensive and hard for the drop (we been on that dam ENM for months and stopped cause we only got crap drops).

seriously no joke last time I was out in a merit pt I was doing 700+ per penta. and I'm not merited out yet.

so I ask you what should I try for if my gear is so gimp (also I'm working my dam hardest to get better feet but when I find a good pair theres none in stock)?
#21 Mar 21 2010 at 4:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fine.
Weapon: Colossal lance (Thalassocrat)
Grip: mythril grip+1 (Pole Grip or Rose Strap to help with store TP)
Ammo: Bibiki Seashell (Tiphia Sting, Seashell is trash.)
Head: Walahra Turban (WS: Wyvern Helm) (Parse your damn ACC, then get an Ohat for WS)
Neck: Chivalrous Chain (Fine)
L.ear: coral earring (Assault Earring)
R.ear: coral earring (Fine for now, Brutal earring later)
Body: Scorpion Harness (Askar body if it drops a hit, Aurum body)
Hands: wonder mitts (Dusk Gloves, WS in Tarasque (+1) or something)
L.ring: Ecphoria ring (WS: Sun Ring) (If it doesn't drop a hit, ACC+5 ring)
R.ring: Sun ring (Drop this, get an ACC ring, work on CoP and ToAU if you want)
Back: Amement mantle (+1 this, really no excuse for having NQ)
Belt: potent belt (Swift Belt, WS in Potent)
Legs: Barone Cosciales (Homam legs are best, Dusk Legs for now)
Feet: Gavial Greaves (WS: Wonder Clomps) (Aurum feet, Dusk Feet, Amir Boots)

'Kay?
Edit: Note that this is by no means a comprehensive list. If you want one of those, check the DRG sticky.
Edited, Mar 21st 2010 4:36pm by JulianneRagnarok

Edited, Mar 21st 2010 5:05pm by JulianneRagnarok
#22REDACTED, Posted: Mar 26 2010 at 4:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I found a few I'll see if I can get but a few items I cant get, and dude I found a couple you really need to recheck up on.
#23 Mar 26 2010 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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phantasydragon wrote:
Grip, choose one you want acc. or double attack your not getting both.
Head, my ACC. from last dynamis was 88%, and dude whts with the WS Ohat thats not smart a drg wants power to hit harder the WS will hit most to all the time(penta and drake)
L.ear, I would get it if I was doing campgin but I'm not I'm still a ribbion2.
Body, I looked at the Askar and wow that sux compared to the hydra mail
L.ring, I use the Ecphoria ring still and sun ring until I finish drakesbane quest.
R.ring, I use the woodsman ring but WS the sun ring now
Back, I still dont get y ppl ***** about this you want the best. ppl are NEVER gana give you wht you want. BUT yes I'll try for the +1 also I've been try'n to save but sch is eating my gil.
Belt, r you serious man. my LS will never go for this let alone theres only 4 of use on at once for about an hr.
Legs, NO....I'm not in Limbus so NOOOO
Feet, I get told those all the time but I dont see y tho. if I get hydra greaves I can be way better also I got the Creek M Clomps.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
Take the hint guys, please take the hint.
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#24 Mar 26 2010 at 6:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Somehow I knew you weren't going to listen. Don't ******* ask for advice then shrug it off CUZ WHAT YOU GOT IS GUD LOL
#25 Mar 26 2010 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
Phantasydragon is just a troll, my advice is to ignore him.
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