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#1 Apr 30 2009 at 8:58 PM Rating: Default
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Are there any hardcore samurais out there? People that have samurai as their only 75, or those that that are pretty much playing sam the full time they are online?
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#2 May 01 2009 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
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All Samurai on this server TP in Hachiman Domaru, they all should commit sepaku.
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#3TWA, Posted: May 01 2009 at 8:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you're tarutaru, with a 75 base hp of barely 1000, with no HP or EVA merits, then its excuse-able , as long as your make other good gear choices.
#4 May 01 2009 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
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TWA wrote:
If you're tarutaru, with a 75 base hp of barely 1000, with no HP or EVA merits, then its excuse-able , as long as your make other good gear choices.


It's never excusable to TP in Hachiman Domaru.
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#5 May 01 2009 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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TWA wrote:
If you're tarutaru, with a 75 base hp of barely 1000, with no HP or EVA merits, then its excuse-able , as long as your make other good gear choices.
What the fuck? No. Everything you just said is full of fail and AIDS.

Base Tarutaru SAM/WAR HP at 75 is 1100, I typically sat around 1200 in TP gear.

Evasion merits are stupid unless you're an absolutely hardcore THF soloist.

Gear is decided on a per-slot basis, and using good gear in one slot does not make room for you to purposefully use ****** gear in another.

Edited, May 1st 2009 12:04pm by bsphil
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#6TWA, Posted: May 01 2009 at 9:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Domaru is not the best body, but its treated like a f*cking cardinals vest or Ratestsu(sp). Haube offers the best damage, no ****. Who doesnt want to do the most damage as a DD? I make the assertion that taru sams may have a hard time staying alive if they pull hate, and you rush in like interwebz police.
#7 May 01 2009 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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TWA wrote:
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Base Tarutaru SAM/WAR HP at 75 is 1100, I typically sat around 1200 in TP gear.


And /nin has less hp. Going /war more often than not is a death sentence. But im sure going /nin is less than uber, so your hive mind won't accept that possiblity.
Ok, SAM/NIN, disregarding it's level of fail, has 1059 base HP at 75. OH SH*T I SO GOT TOLD, that's a staggering 41 HP less. PS: Try SAM/DRG. It's a different degree of offensive power without the downside of berserk.

TWA wrote:
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Evasion merits are stupid unless you're an absolutely hardcore THF soloist.


Evasion merits are one of the few defensive 'traits' you can merit. Should they be a last-on-the-list merit for samurai, yes.
Without a dedicated evasion build, you aren't going to break the floor on evade rate at the merit level, so your evasion merits wouldn't be doing anything anyway. Also, fully merited SAM can take 8/8 GKT and 8/8 polearm without even considering other jobs. All 20/20 of my combat merits are in melee skills. You'll find that almost nobody (lol deadgye) has only one 75 anymore with the exception of newer players.

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Gear is decided on a per-slot basis, and using good gear in one slot does not make room for you to purposefully use sh*tty gear in another.


Domaru is not the best body, but its treated like a f*cking cardinals vest or Ratestsu(sp). Haube offers the best damage, no sh*t. Who doesnt want to do the most damage as a DD? I make the assertion that taru sams may have a hard time staying alive if they pull hate, and you rush in like interwebz police.
If you're honestly having trouble staying alive in a merit party, that's generally a sign of something much more severe than just "you pull hate too much". People don't avoid buying hauby because they are concerned about dying from pulling hate. They avoid it because they're cheap and won't bother to cough up the what, 200k, to get one of the best and most common DD body piece in the game. The irony is of course that Domaru costs about 70k now anyway, so you could be selling it and getting yourself 1/3rd of the way to the hauby.
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#8 May 01 2009 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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Did ISNM with 3 tard SAMs, one in domaru, one in acp body, two of them not using hagun, all of them using random pieces of af1/2 and jse shit. Didn't even bother checking their non-visible gear out of fear of a heart attack.

They couldn't even break 500 dmg ws regularly on the puk. Good thing that isnm is so **** easy...
#9altwight, Posted: May 04 2009 at 11:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Recently level'd a job to 75 and every single samurai (with the exception of maybe 2-3) were horrid. I totally agree that domaru is about 70k 1/3 of a hauby. Nabs will be nabs.
#10 May 05 2009 at 12:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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I guess the real question would be why are you gearing for HP on SAM in the first place?
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#11 May 05 2009 at 4:16 PM Rating: Good
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Because SAM is a tank job didn't you hear
#12 May 05 2009 at 7:06 PM Rating: Good
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TurboTom wrote:
I guess the real question would be why are you gearing for HP on SAM in the first place?


for a 300% TP Spirits Within at start, duh.
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#13 May 05 2009 at 11:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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#14 May 06 2009 at 6:54 AM Rating: Default
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hachiman ? /sigh

post 55 no hauby no party ;D

oh and taru sam > all :D
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#15TWA, Posted: May 06 2009 at 6:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Let me just say this, f**k most of you. Hushigoshi and bsphilar are actually taru melee and therefore might actually have a stake in this *********
#16 May 06 2009 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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TWA wrote:
Let me just say this, f**k most of you. Hushigoshi and bsphilar are actually taru melee and therefore might actually have a stake in this bullsh*t.


Kerberoz has a black belt monk and a cor that will outdamage you anyday, fyi.

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Berserk:3/5|Aggresor:3/5|DoubleAttack:4/5
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#17TWA, Posted: May 06 2009 at 7:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok. If hes spent that long obtaining a BB, then great.
#18 May 07 2009 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
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Let's go back to the question at hand, Niacin posted this:

troubble wrote:
All Samurai on this server TP in Hachiman Domaru, they all should commit sepaku.


and you replied with this:

TWA wrote:
If you're tarutaru, with a 75 base hp of barely 1000, with no HP or EVA merits, then its excuse-able , as long as your make other good gear choices.


In other words, you're trying to defend why it's ok to TP in Hachiman Domaru, which it is never, under any circumstance, acceptable.

TWA wrote:
Sam is just easy to gear for... Thats what you pussies are ******** about on the main forum all the time. 'waaa waa waa sam is overpowered'.

But what the @#%^ ever, I come in here and defend a piece of gear thats not bottom-of-barrel and I get sh*t on.


SAM is easy to gear for, if you're a completely shitty sam.

I consider this gear setup to be above standard for any SAM I party with.

However, 90% of the SAMs in a pick up party show and in this and use it fulltime.

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H2H:8/8|DGR:8/8|CRIT+%:4/4|STR:5/5
Counter:5/5|KickAttack:5/5
Ice:5/5|Thunder:5/5|AMII:6/6
Berserk:3/5|Aggresor:3/5|DoubleAttack:4/5
TripleAttack:5/5|Feint:5/5
AvatarAttk:5/5|AvatarMAttk:5/5|75BP:6/6
StoreTP:4/5|Meditate:1/5|Overwhelm:1/5
#19 May 07 2009 at 12:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Let me guess, you're a pup/rng/drk that's ****** that sam is "over-powered"


You sure got me pegged there friend.
#20TWA, Posted: May 07 2009 at 9:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I dont dispute that the gear in the first link is absolute sh*t. But for every 5 sams that i see wearing a haube, 2 or more have a shinsoku, which shows they apparently have never read the sam forum and dont know that onimaru is a much better option.
#21 May 08 2009 at 12:18 AM Rating: Good
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TWA wrote:

Im just @#%^ing sick of dying 1 minute into sh*t even if my timers are near perfect. If any taru sam was in the same boat as I, then I feel for them.

Edited, May 8th 2009 1:17am by TWA


Oh, hi there good sir. Invest in a damage down set. Also, get better tanks.
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H2H:8/8|DGR:8/8|CRIT+%:4/4|STR:5/5
Counter:5/5|KickAttack:5/5
Ice:5/5|Thunder:5/5|AMII:6/6
Berserk:3/5|Aggresor:3/5|DoubleAttack:4/5
TripleAttack:5/5|Feint:5/5
AvatarAttk:5/5|AvatarMAttk:5/5|75BP:6/6
StoreTP:4/5|Meditate:1/5|Overwhelm:1/5
#22 May 08 2009 at 12:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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should use that domaru on ws and tp in a haub, just some advice hope it helps out. get a KO then ditch the domaru all together. I may not have a hagun, but I do know my stuff about SAM.
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#23 May 08 2009 at 2:42 AM Rating: Good
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#24 May 08 2009 at 9:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Im just @#%^ing sick of dying 1 minute into sh*t even if my timers are near perfect. If any taru sam was in the same boat as I, then I feel for them.


Get better tanks and/or stop WSing at 99% if you can't tank it.
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Im just @#%^ing sick of dying 1 minute into sh*t even if my timers are near perfect. If any taru sam was in the same boat as I, then I feel for them.


Get better tanks and/or stop WSing at 99% if you can't tank it.
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#26 Jul 04 2009 at 6:01 AM Rating: Decent
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< taru sam...i had domaru on ws macro until i could afford osode. The thing is i walk around in ws gear cause i have dusk on tp... I got quite a few loldomaru tells...the best part is that my str+54 and soboro outdmg those poor elvaan onimaru ws'ing in hauby
#27 Jul 08 2009 at 1:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm something of a bandwagon SAM; sue me. After being a career RDM (and then PUP, yeah) I decided to try the DD job du jour. However I don't TP in domarrrruuuuuu; just got my Hagun. Yay me. I'm also taru.

It's very fun whacking the crap out of things with a two-handed weapon, but when I want to do anything solo I still resort to RDM. So to all the bandwagon SAMs, think RDM. It makes sense.
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