you was waiting for meFollow

Racist pig.

...wow... just wow. I was hoping you'd post due to the fact that your ls mates were digging their own graves and making themselves look rather foolish, but this takes the cake. Your stubborness to refuse our "AMERICAN CALENDAR" is just childish and really, I'm hoping you will see the consequences. I'd love to see you trying to upgrade a relic weapon and try to buy and sell coins to other dynamis shells. Lets see how well that goes now that yoru ls name is being dragged through the mud, by your own doing. I've seen your rules on your website, even the utterly ridiculous ones that have been changed since then. I've heard several testimonies from ex dynamite ls members and its just ridiculous.

I'm sure posting that racist, ignorant post of yours will only make things worse for your shell. I doubt anything you do at this point will negate that post. Have fun in Vanadiel <3

lionze, i have a question for you. How do your american ls mates feel about this post of yours? this generalization of a nation isn't going to get you any brownie points, especially considering you have a few US members. If you want to be a leader, act like it. Don't voice your own opinions because you are frustrated, when all its doing is hurting your ls and your own members as a whole. Think of whats better for everyone, not just trying to stick to your own feelings, when clearly your fellow officers are opened to the option of joining the calendar.

Yes, yes I'm well aware of what he's written. I'm not excusing him. Just relaying to you what I know he's thinking minus the angry remarks. Still not happy about that post. Shows poor ability to take criticism. That's is why I'm making this attempt now and not him. Please tho don't make assumetions of him if you don't know him that well. Same as I would expect him to do with everyone else. I'm still getting to know Lionze myself. But I feel confident in saying he's not a bad guy. I admit he's not handling this as well as I would like, but he's trying. I'm here to help.

I don't do Dynamis at the moment - I don't really care about it either way, so this issue with the dynamis calendar doesn't affect me yet ( I'm sure I'll understand more about it of/when I decide to do dynamis ) hence staying out of the other thread.

However, Lionzas comments were both racist generalisations, and aggresive . I appreciate you're trying to help Kysah, but Lionza should have the balls to get behind his own argument, or to calm down and think about what he's saying - he is after all the LS leader, and the person LS members look up to to represent them .

Its all very well saying not to make assumptions - but whats to assume ? Lionze made a racist, idiotic post, so in my mind, he's a racist idiot. Simple .

Hello there.

Yes, I'm another one of Lionze's LS members, and a sack of it too.

I will not say anything about Lionze's post. Kysah tld u all what is needed I think.

I just want to tell that, there are some things that I don't see correctly.
For example, you put all the LS members in the same place. You talk about that Dynamis calendar, but since today, I wasn't heard anything about that.
Of course, I started to play near 6 months ago, so it's normal. I'm not saying that If I have know about that Calendar, I won't have joined Lionze's LS. I think I would have joined anyway, but I would have been able to talk with him about that.

I think that there must be some other members that didn't know about that calendar as well. Anyway, It's not an excuse for what we are doing.

Another thing, is to list every member of the LS. Really, I don't think that members must be listed here since they don't do anything else than follow leader and sacks "orders", like assisting time, that is the thing that you are arguing.

Since Lionze said, we have EU and USA players, so our Dynamis times can not be moved at all.
Instead, we can try to apply to that calendar, and see what we can do.
For EU members, Wednesday's Dynamis are finishing around 5 am (Spain time, that is my case) so, we are doing a great effort too.

If it's not a problem for you all, that we apply to the calendar, we will talk with our leader and members, and see what we can do, but since then, since the day that we can take a dates that goes well for every LS member, we will be doing Dynamis at the same times as now, since is the only time that is possible to do them, at least, for now.

If possible, and taking in consideration that we are not in position to ask for anything, it could be great If we can apply to that calendar at the same times that we have now.
I repeat, that we aren't in position to ask for anything, so I'll understand If u just laugh about it.

I just will ask please, If someone can take out that list of the LS members, because it's only "fu.cking" (sorry, don't know how to say it another way. I'm spanish :s) the other LS members that maybe don't know anything about it, and in the case that the know, they can not do anything.

If u want to put someone in the list, just put Lionze and me.

Thank very much.

Edit: Some misspelled words.


Edited, Sep 16th 2008 12:09am by YUGON

Edited, Sep 16th 2008 12:11am by YUGON

I just had a flashback.

A couple of years ago I was in a party with Lionze, I'm almost positive. I was in the midst of either leveling a 2nd job, or perhaps a sub. I remember him talking about how he was from Spain, living in the Canary Islands, and how he was gay and had an older boyfriend. I remember him talking about how he had either planed on starting up a gay LS, or already had and it wasn't successful. I remember him being one of the absolute nicest persons I had ever met in game, to the point where I almost wanted to join his LS, even though I'm not gay. I just wanted to keep him as a friend. I had no idea that he was so hateful of Americans, he knew I was from here at the time. I think I need to just walk away from this drama, it makes me too sad.

As u say, Lionze is a very nice person. He always try to have all his LS members happy, and If he can, he is always helping us with whatever we are doing.

I don't really know how this started, but I can tell you for sure, that the Lionze who wrote that post, wasn't Lionze himslef.

He may was upset and angry about all this happening, and he could wrote that post in an attack of rage, but I don't think that he really feel anything of what he posted there.

Well, as a US member of the LS I'm shocked. I mean, I'm all for good-hearted name bashing and retaliation, but I never would've thought knocking thine own LS members was a strategy worth taking in a rant.

I can only laugh at it though because I know Lionze. We can do better insults than that we just need time to plan them, yeah. >.>;

Stuff is mad good. So are cookies. And when the two combine... :Q__________



Edited, Sep 16th 2008 4:04pm by vassarAK

You're from w00t right? I'm not sure who said what, but trust me I do know a few sacks have nothing bad to say about w00t. Not sure about the comment and yeah that would aggravate me too if it happened to me.

Personally, I don't blame the OP one bit for starting these threads. Of course, they just get out of hand so easily. But in the end something needs to be done.

It's true that nearly everyone of us, didn't know about that post, and maybe Lionze thought that it wans't "important" because isn't any oficial thing of SE. I don't know, really.

What albertomagno said it's true too. Maybe the ones to start being rude were you, but it's true that, If u posted this at July's 30th, it's normal to start being rude, with all the time that has passed, and anything changed.

For my part, again, want to ask you to remove or edit the LS member list, because nearly no one knows what heppens, and If they do, they are not able to do anything. I repeat that, If u don't want to erase it, just put my name and Lionze in it, as de main culprits (culprit is correct?) of it.

I told you that we will try to get a solution, and we are doing it. We are trying to know where the American people of our LS can start Wednesday's Dynamis, to try to start it a little earlier, because it's not possible to start it more late, cuz the different time zone.

I just beg a little more of patience from your part, while we are able to handle this.

Edited, Sep 16th 2008 3:23pm by YUGON

Ok Thank you.

Is he aware of all what is happening in this post??

Okay

A little white lie, I admit. BUT...done for a very specific reason. StarsMaker had "issues" tonight. They didn't do Dynamis at all, just as planned. :)




PROOF 75 RDM

This prove that you are a lier, and all your posts are full of lies.

And no, we didn't do dynamis, but not cause your "plan".. some of us know who are really you in game.
it was because our members that need sandy can't assist yesterday and SoramimiCake ask us very courtesy if we can leave beaucedine for them, and we did it.

And if the leader and the sacks decide to follow the calendar will be thanks to people like SoramimiCake, not thanks to childs like like you.

No, not completely. It proves that you're easy to manipulate. It didn't even prove to be that much of a challenge. And it succeeded in getting your linkshell to use the calender



Now you sir are the liar. You know who I am? State my name, or stfu.



Several members of other linkshells have asked you courteously in the past if you would refrain from stealing a zone. You never backed down before. No, it took these threads in this forum to get you tards to see we mean business.



I cannot discount Bethy's input in all this. By nature she is a voice of common sense and reason, and she has been very wise in all of this. :)

But we all have a long way to go to catch up with your lies. You know who I am? That's right you do because NONE of us are cowards like yourself.

We as in a linkshell, and most people on that shell aren't racist. That's why I said WE. Look it up. It's a plural. Thus WE have more honor than YOU.



We are still people. This is a means of communication very much like a phone. I suppose you don't need honor on the phone either? And, you do need it. You just lack it and therefore down play it as usual.



Which is odd as the yes/no war was started by you. I suggest you read this thread this time.



Mine too, and this would also explain why you made the accusations first. I'll give you one example since we know how your memory works. I'm the liar remember?



Don't pull a 180 now. I suppose you don't name call either, and these posts you made are from someone else. There goes the hypocritical side of you again. And, of course you rehash while I reiterate to get the point across you never got in the first place. I'm afraid serving you a point though is much like trying to stuff a q-tip through concrete; it ain't gonna happen.

Edited, Sep 19th 2008 1:33pm by Jereth