you was waiting for meFollow

Racist pig.

...wow... just wow. I was hoping you'd post due to the fact that your ls mates were digging their own graves and making themselves look rather foolish, but this takes the cake. Your stubborness to refuse our "AMERICAN CALENDAR" is just childish and really, I'm hoping you will see the consequences. I'd love to see you trying to upgrade a relic weapon and try to buy and sell coins to other dynamis shells. Lets see how well that goes now that yoru ls name is being dragged through the mud, by your own doing. I've seen your rules on your website, even the utterly ridiculous ones that have been changed since then. I've heard several testimonies from ex dynamite ls members and its just ridiculous.

I'm sure posting that racist, ignorant post of yours will only make things worse for your shell. I doubt anything you do at this point will negate that post. Have fun in Vanadiel <3

lionze, i have a question for you. How do your american ls mates feel about this post of yours? this generalization of a nation isn't going to get you any brownie points, especially considering you have a few US members. If you want to be a leader, act like it. Don't voice your own opinions because you are frustrated, when all its doing is hurting your ls and your own members as a whole. Think of whats better for everyone, not just trying to stick to your own feelings, when clearly your fellow officers are opened to the option of joining the calendar.

Yes, yes I'm well aware of what he's written. I'm not excusing him. Just relaying to you what I know he's thinking minus the angry remarks. Still not happy about that post. Shows poor ability to take criticism. That's is why I'm making this attempt now and not him. Please tho don't make assumetions of him if you don't know him that well. Same as I would expect him to do with everyone else. I'm still getting to know Lionze myself. But I feel confident in saying he's not a bad guy. I admit he's not handling this as well as I would like, but he's trying. I'm here to help.

I don't do Dynamis at the moment - I don't really care about it either way, so this issue with the dynamis calendar doesn't affect me yet ( I'm sure I'll understand more about it of/when I decide to do dynamis ) hence staying out of the other thread.

However, Lionzas comments were both racist generalisations, and aggresive . I appreciate you're trying to help Kysah, but Lionza should have the balls to get behind his own argument, or to calm down and think about what he's saying - he is after all the LS leader, and the person LS members look up to to represent them .

Its all very well saying not to make assumptions - but whats to assume ? Lionze made a racist, idiotic post, so in my mind, he's a racist idiot. Simple .

Hello there.

Yes, I'm another one of Lionze's LS members, and a sack of it too.

I will not say anything about Lionze's post. Kysah tld u all what is needed I think.

I just want to tell that, there are some things that I don't see correctly.
For example, you put all the LS members in the same place. You talk about that Dynamis calendar, but since today, I wasn't heard anything about that.
Of course, I started to play near 6 months ago, so it's normal. I'm not saying that If I have know about that Calendar, I won't have joined Lionze's LS. I think I would have joined anyway, but I would have been able to talk with him about that.

I think that there must be some other members that didn't know about that calendar as well. Anyway, It's not an excuse for what we are doing.

Another thing, is to list every member of the LS. Really, I don't think that members must be listed here since they don't do anything else than follow leader and sacks "orders", like assisting time, that is the thing that you are arguing.

Since Lionze said, we have EU and USA players, so our Dynamis times can not be moved at all.
Instead, we can try to apply to that calendar, and see what we can do.
For EU members, Wednesday's Dynamis are finishing around 5 am (Spain time, that is my case) so, we are doing a great effort too.

If it's not a problem for you all, that we apply to the calendar, we will talk with our leader and members, and see what we can do, but since then, since the day that we can take a dates that goes well for every LS member, we will be doing Dynamis at the same times as now, since is the only time that is possible to do them, at least, for now.

If possible, and taking in consideration that we are not in position to ask for anything, it could be great If we can apply to that calendar at the same times that we have now.
I repeat, that we aren't in position to ask for anything, so I'll understand If u just laugh about it.

I just will ask please, If someone can take out that list of the LS members, because it's only "fu.cking" (sorry, don't know how to say it another way. I'm spanish :s) the other LS members that maybe don't know anything about it, and in the case that the know, they can not do anything.

If u want to put someone in the list, just put Lionze and me.

Thank very much.

Edit: Some misspelled words.


Edited, Sep 16th 2008 12:09am by YUGON

Edited, Sep 16th 2008 12:11am by YUGON

I just had a flashback.

A couple of years ago I was in a party with Lionze, I'm almost positive. I was in the midst of either leveling a 2nd job, or perhaps a sub. I remember him talking about how he was from Spain, living in the Canary Islands, and how he was gay and had an older boyfriend. I remember him talking about how he had either planed on starting up a gay LS, or already had and it wasn't successful. I remember him being one of the absolute nicest persons I had ever met in game, to the point where I almost wanted to join his LS, even though I'm not gay. I just wanted to keep him as a friend. I had no idea that he was so hateful of Americans, he knew I was from here at the time. I think I need to just walk away from this drama, it makes me too sad.

As u say, Lionze is a very nice person. He always try to have all his LS members happy, and If he can, he is always helping us with whatever we are doing.

I don't really know how this started, but I can tell you for sure, that the Lionze who wrote that post, wasn't Lionze himslef.

He may was upset and angry about all this happening, and he could wrote that post in an attack of rage, but I don't think that he really feel anything of what he posted there.

Well, as a US member of the LS I'm shocked. I mean, I'm all for good-hearted name bashing and retaliation, but I never would've thought knocking thine own LS members was a strategy worth taking in a rant.

I can only laugh at it though because I know Lionze. We can do better insults than that we just need time to plan them, yeah. >.>;

Stuff is mad good. So are cookies. And when the two combine... :Q__________



Edited, Sep 16th 2008 4:04pm by vassarAK

You're from w00t right? I'm not sure who said what, but trust me I do know a few sacks have nothing bad to say about w00t. Not sure about the comment and yeah that would aggravate me too if it happened to me.

Personally, I don't blame the OP one bit for starting these threads. Of course, they just get out of hand so easily. But in the end something needs to be done.