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#1 Dec 13 2004 at 8:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I had been leveling in Boyada Tree all day. 3 of the "cats people" were there hunting Aquarius. They were "Catsears"- the DRK, "Catshairs"- the RDM, and "Catsninja" the NIN. I know these ppl are gil sellers and don't speak English, but i was bored. I asked "Catshairs" if he was a gil seller. He replied "NO OR YES!". I asked "Catsears" the same question. His reply was "yes". Then i asked him if he was scared of getting caught and he replied "I don't speak any english".

There was also a lvl 75 BST there camping Aquarius. Eventually Aquarius popped and the "cats party" got the claim. I felt bad for the BST who was playing the game for fun. The cats killed Aquarius with no trouble and left for a couple hours. I went to Jeuno to get Signet and to buy and sell some items. I got a tell from Catsears saying something in another language. I replied "I dont know how to answer that question."

I go back to Boyoda Tree and the "cats party" is there. Eventually they get Aquarius again and it didn't seem right to me. I went about my business and pulled a crab and was fighting it when all of a sudden something went off in me. I released my pet, charmed the crab i was fighting, and released it near Aquarius.

The Cat ppl kept moving and i kept re-charming and chasing them and releasing my crab to link with Aquarius. Eventually i got them to link and the NIN died. The DRK and RDM were running from Aquarius and the other crab and i got a crawler. The RDM raised the NIN and he joined in the chase again. The RDM died and the NIN and DRK went to the zone. They kept zoning and re-entering while the other one would keep the claim.

I was keeping my LS up-to-date the whole time and they informed me the "Cats WHM" was on his way in the Sanctuary. I released my crawler near the entrance between the zone the the 2 living cats. The NIN got killed again and by the zone and the WHM arrived. He raised the NIN and got attacked by the crawler. I don't know what happened after that because i followed the other 2 and Aquarius back towards the main room.

And then all of a sudden, my screen freezes, downloading data begins, and i appear in "Mordion Gaol" - Prison. A couple minutes go by and [GM]Kemorrak says "Greetings. I will be with you shortly." A few more minutes go by and he says "Why are you charming crabs and then uncharming them near other monsters to make them link?" I said, "Because the cat ppl are gil sellers." He said, "So you are trying to train them". I said "yes". A minute goes by and he says "I am only going to warn you this time. If you train again, you will be suspended do you understand?" I said "yes, thank you." And then i was at my HP in Port Jeuno.

Not long after that i get a tell from Catsninja saying "?" and a tell from Catsears saying (and this is how he spelled it) "Fuak You!"

So am i a hero in Phoenix now or was i wrong for MPK'ing? By the way that was my first ever MPK.

P.S. The final body count was Catsninja- 2 deaths, Catsears- 1 death, and Catshairs- 1 death. CatsWHM- MIA

Edited, Mon Dec 13 22:16:20 2004 by Ironmike
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#2 Dec 13 2004 at 9:10 PM Rating: Default
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Killing the cats is fun! o_o-b

We accidentally let a gob drop his suicide bomb next to their whm, it was very very tragic!
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#3 Dec 13 2004 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
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/em takes his hat off before Ironmike.
/em kneels respectfully before Ironmike.
/em kisses Ironmike's ring.

That's awesome, you just made my month(and therefore the rest of my year :P)
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#4 Dec 13 2004 at 10:09 PM Rating: Decent
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/salute Ironmike. rate up!
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We'll excuse me for being a little nonappreciative here, but I've never believed in taking the fight to the gil sellers, through MPKing. You break the rules to get revenge aganst people who break the rules to show that break the rules is wrong! How much sense does that make?

It's not like your saving the world or anything, your just killing off some poor chinese kid who's working tooth and nail to make some yen or whatever they use. It's not like they wakes up every morning thinking "How can I @#%^ over all the honest players today!" Gilsellers are people too and deserve the basic respect that all people deserve.

Really, if you don't like gil sellers don't buy gil. It's not a hard concept. MPKing them is just wrong. After all, an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind.
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#6 Dec 14 2004 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
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ahahahahaah

Yes, poor chinese kids starving in rice fields we must let them ruin our game for the good of china!
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#7 Dec 14 2004 at 12:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Zygous, you are incredibly ignorant and really shouldn't post if you haven't a clue what you're talking about. I won't even get into the fact that you advertise yourself as being a monk/dark knight. The Chinese don't use yen, that's Japanese currency; the Chinese use yuan. Secondly, the gilsellers are not "poor Chinese kids." They're people who work for companies that sell gil and other MMORPG monies, probably sitting in a row in some warehouse or office building, and take shifts playing the characters for 8 hours at a time. That's the only explanation for how the Cats Family went from level 40 rank 1 to level 70 rank 5 in the space of about 4-5 weeks, multiple people playing the same company-owned characters. They are not players who log on to play a game, they are invaders who exist within the game. And they have killed people in the past and they will show no regrets, because they have none nor will they ever. They have harassed hundreds of actual players in a multitude of ways, including killing off the pets and prey of virutally every beastmaster I know who has ever tried to level in Korroloka Tunnel; stealing every single NM they can get their hands on in any way they deem neccessary, including linking mobs to NMs to kill players who have beaten them to the claim, etc etc the list goes on.

Sidebar: Catsears does speak English, so at least one of the people who play the character has a functioning grasp of the language.
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#8 Dec 14 2004 at 1:07 AM Rating: Default
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hey now cats aint all that bad, they are my favorite gil sellers. they have raised my pt with raise III from the far side of kuftal while camping anemet. and ya they probably are all a family in china that needs that kill to get their bowl of rice. tonight the children starve thx what a nice guy. and at least the change areas every so often, not like npcone, datou or samsung who are in the same area 24/7 and never xp or help anyone. cats have xped at a decent pace, last month they were all lvl 60. at least they play the game to unlike the others listed that are all the same lvl everytime you see them for months an months. also cats dont say "Leave" when you are near their area like they own the place. i think cats are nice people you should give them a break. maybe they just are friendly toward me cause i help them if they are dieng or wave or bow instead of /slap them when i see them or laugh at them when they die.
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#9 Dec 14 2004 at 1:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Make of it what you will... When I checked the price of a Scorpian Harness today, I noticed that Catsninja bought one.
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#10 Dec 14 2004 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
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They also confessed to being gil sellers and gave away millions of gil in jeuno.... does this make them good.... HELL NO

A thief who confesses then gives back 10% of what he stole... is still a thief!

If you kill 10 people and raise 1 does that make you a good person?
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#11 Dec 14 2004 at 1:59 AM Rating: Decent
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From what i see... i think they are probibly aiming for HNMs... which is something that the other gil sellers are incapable of doing.

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#12 Dec 14 2004 at 3:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Hmm ineresting how not too long ago SE got rid of ALOT of Gilseller accounts.. and yet here are the Cats. Makes me wonder if they really ARE gilsellers.
What YOU did Ironmike is still against the TOS of the game and makes you no better than them if they truly are gilsellers.
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Raza wrote:
From what i see... i think they are probibly aiming for HNMs... which is something that the other gil sellers are incapable of doing.


I second that thought. I can only imagine what kind of hell it will be to fight them off when I get to HNM levels.

To the person playing devil's advocate: I respect your opinion, but I care not about people who ruin a game for everyone else. I agree the best thing people can do is to stop buying gil, but that doesn't mean the people selling gil are not in the wrong. I can't do anything about people buying gil, but I sure as hell can make it hard on the people selling gil.
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#14 Dec 14 2004 at 4:48 AM Rating: Decent
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should be noted the fact they were even able to call a GM on you would indicate 1 knows english (to some degree, those fuakers!)

usually you can kill the chinease ones all day and they can't do anything about it(laughs evily)j/k j/k, still as gratifying as killing them are (i know this 1st hand with npcone) it's still an issue of cutting the the tail off a snake, minor damage that'll be recoverd in little time, the bloodlust of killing gil sellers only gets you so far, gil buyers and high prices the problem, yadda yadda

still, somewhat interesting the GM just warned you considering you killed them multiple times, makes me somewhat hopeful they know of the cats gang, that or you've been a good lil BST this x-mass :P



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#15 Dec 14 2004 at 5:50 AM Rating: Decent
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They've already moved on to the lower HNM's. I've seen them with Serket Breaker and Roc Star titles many times.

This isn't an entirely bad thing in my opinion though. HNM ls's are brutal and often MPK other HNM ls's (At least from what I've heard). On top of this everyone knows the time for pops and everyone will be competing for the same HNM's. There will be no way for them to monopolize the HNM's but they will get some spawns and make a good amount of money off of them. The only difference is when they gain they gil it won't go to buying uber l33t +1 gear or leveling another job they will simply sell it. To me this seems to have a lower effect on the economy than 24/7 camping stroper and being the only people to ever sell a damn archer ring. The other ls's will always give them competition.

On top of this they are a 6 man group. They will do the Jueno HNM's and maybe some others but they will never advance to God's or things like King behemoth or the beastmen HNM's. They possibly couple but risking those types of HNM's with 6 people especially when every other HNM ls is out to kill you is a bit stupid.

Then again they ARE gil sellers.
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I dont agree w/ that method..not at all cats are friendly they give charity like robin hood steal from the rich na hnm and give to the poor..lol ok maybe not quite :P but i still dont think its right to mpk anyone even if they are a dirtbag gil seller im glad they threw your ass in jail =/
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No, HNMLS don't MPK each other, if they do, the member that does it usually gets kicked from the HNMLS. Only other time is if someone steals a HNM and doesn't give it back. Happened last week at Serket, it was stolen from Genesis by Loster, Happysky, Trainer, Pater and Wishes. Let's just say those 5 got more than they bargained for.

As for MPK'ing the Cats, Good Job! ^^b They MPK people all the time and don't get squat done to them, the other day they MPK'd a SMN fighting Aquarius, Luckily a friend of his managed to get Aqua back from the Cats as they were forced to zone.

The GMs seriously need to take note of the Cats as they MPK all the tie and as Ironmike said before, it was his first MPK and he gets taken to jail. SE really need to sort this problem out, not by changing the location of certain drops either, or nerfing mining and fishing.

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#18 Dec 14 2004 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
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they're chinease troublemakers, i won't outright call them gil sellers but i know for a fact they're chinease and MPK non stop, while they were levaling in garliage citidal underground they constantly pulled mobs on a group my friend's BF was in and /laughed while escapeing right after

so me & her went there just in time to catch them doing it and killed off the links thy pulled and guarded them (they stoped after they saw us kill em) and we all called a GM on them who said they'd watch to situation blah, blah

but we left awhile later to see if they'd stop training, and as SOON as we left they trained a buncha bats on them & escaped to meet us outside >.< so much for "watching the situation" i take back my coment on being hopeful of GM's doing something bout them /fume remembing this
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Even though I wouldn't do it myself, I don't have much of a problem with ppl MPKing gil sellers. It's not the fact that they get the pop that bothers me... it's the fact that they can afford to ignore everything else in the game, and get every pop. No quests, no missions, no levels, no equip issues, nothing but taking their target NM out of the game.

Also, I'm certain that there's a fairly witty remark about curiosity waiting to be made, but I can't quite seem to come up with it. ;)
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they're chinease troublemakers, i won't outright call them gil sellers but i know for a fact they're chinease and MPK non stop, while they were levaling in garliage citidal underground they constantly pulled mobs on a group my friend's BF was in and /laughed while escapeing right after

so me & her went there just in time to catch them doing it and killed off the links thy pulled and guarded them (they stoped after they saw us kill em) and we all called a GM on them who said they'd watch to situation blah, blah

but we left awhile later to see if they'd stop training, and as SOON as we left they trained a buncha bats on them & escaped to meet us outside >.< so much for "watching the situation" i take back my coment on being hopeful of GM's doing something bout them /fume remembing this


I was there when they did this. They damned near killed the party I was leveling warrior in, and later in the day when I was back on Beastmaster Happysky recognized me in Jeuno apparently and sent me a tell consisting of "^OO^ <('.')< <('.')>" and I have never had previous contact with her. Wtf?
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#21 Dec 14 2004 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes, brisko, "Loster, Happysky, Trainer, Pater and Wishes" and all the ninjas are all together. I really don't know what they are really up to at this moment, but last time i have seen them all together is at Qulun Dome getting testmonies i believe. They even death warped out too. Yesterday I was with my static Warrior to camp an axe in Kuftal Tunnel and saw all of them, i checked Catshair, and his title is Serket Breaker.

Seems to me that they are on the HNM already before us :(

Maybe they will sell the account too after they are done, who knows.

BTW, MPking is not right, reguardless to gilsellers or to anyone in the game. There are always other alternatives.
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I'm 100% certain that Brisko is right about different people playing the cats in shifts.

I MPK'd them around 6:00 P.M. After i got out of jail i logged for about 3 hours. I went back to Boyoda Tree and the cats were there. I waved to them and laughed at them and they didn't acknowledge me. Around 11:00 P.M. i died and jokingly asked Catstails(WHM) for Raise III. To my surprise he replied "{waist}". I guess he meant "wait".

Then Catsears- the one who said "yes" to being a gil seller, "{i don't speak any english}" and "Fuak You!"- told me in perfect English to "wait for their whm to raise." I couldn't believe it.
I got Raise III, finished lvl'ing, and logged out with a different attitude toward the cats.

Then, this morning when i log back on to get some xp before the update, i guess the shift of people that i MPK'd was on duty. I got a tell from Catsears saying "Fuak You." I told him "{Thank You}".

This is pretty convincing evidence that at least Catsears is played by multiple people.
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I think you're right about different people... their whm(taru) came up to me in jeuno one time and said "Hey babe, how's it goin?" o.0 Guess it's the whole female taru thing... and being so damn sexy XD But yea, some do speak engrish.

I've noticed that that huge group of DRG has turned up missing (Babs, Billyr, Alvins, etc.). But a notorious few have not been dealt with.
#24 Dec 15 2004 at 2:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Cats are more like japanese.......not chinese.......gil sellers
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Check the AH history for Serket Rings (they've sold 3 of last 10). Be scared.
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That's because the usual HNMLS are going after gods and such now. Amikiri was up yesterday and the only LS there was Starlet. I was the only one from my LS since it popped (everyone else came around when it died) and obviously I'm not going to run and claim it solo. And I believe they were the only ones there for Bune too.

The cats only advantage is they have a rotation of people, which means they have much more game time where as normal people sleep, go to work, school, etc.. With that said they should just stick to Argus :)But really, they won't be able to handle the big stuff, and I really doubt they are working on their Zilart Missions they are too busy meeting their daily quotas of gil.
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#27 Dec 15 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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So, about this prison thing...

Is it a room or what? Is there a screenshot of it? I'd like to see it (without getting in trouble myself).
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Prison was just a square room with a rectangle-shaped inlet on one side. It was pretty dark with a few torches. The architecture was similar to Quicksand Caves without all the holes and stuff. I could talk to people outside but they couldn't talk to me. They also said i didn't appear on any searches. I tried to instant warp out, but nothing happened.
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#30 Dec 15 2004 at 11:54 PM Rating: Default
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Man thats too bad you fall into that same category with those gil sellers, Kevlk.... lol. Meaning that you both have been the same level for months. ;)
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The moral of the story is never to MPK gilsellers cause u will go to jail, and that you should always let the gilsellers do their job. They're people too, they just play the game differently. So leave them alone!
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Sladeneo wrote:
The moral of the story is never to MPK gilsellers cause u will go to jail, and that you should always let the gilsellers do their job. They're people too, they just play the game differently. So leave them alone!


spoken like a true gil buyer Q_Q
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#34 Dec 16 2004 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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So, about this prison thing...

Is it a room or what? Is there a screenshot of it? I'd like to see it (without getting in trouble myself).
Here's something someone had posted here a long time ago... with pictures and some foul language.

http://www.cody-massin.com/ffxisuspended/

Edited, Thu Dec 16 13:20:55 2004 by Arionne
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#35 Dec 16 2004 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
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I think it's definitely true that the Cats people are played by different shifts. One of the shifts must be composed of complete and total @#%^s while the other shift is composed of people that aren't so bad.

I remember cursing Catsninja out in Jeuno when he set me on /follow and really pissing him off.

Then when I saw him again in Kuftal Tunnel with the rest of the entire Cats crew, my party wasn't so great and we were camped in a pretty bad spot. The Cats team ended up saving our lives over and over and over instead of letting us get killed by the crabs everytime they linked. Catsninja didn't seem to remember me at all.

They even healed us while we were fighting to help keep us alive. o_O; After a while they kind of waited for us to pick out whatever crab we wanted first before hunting themselves, that way we could get whatever monster we wanted first instead of them just wiping out everything in the area. It was really odd.
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I can't wait until they can monopolize all the best items in the game, then we'll see many more threads with nothing but bitching.
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Maybe, just maybe "cats" are really working for SE>>>
Doesn't SE have Gilsellers on thier website????
Just my opinion, maybe thats why you got thrown in jail, on your first offence?

who knows tho, Gil-sellers suck, they need to fuak up another game...
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#38 Dec 18 2004 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent
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maybe SE is just dicking with the cats., and just waiting for them all to hit lvl 75 before deleteing the accounts.

Good job mike on your fight aginst the gil sellers.
and to everyone who feels srry for the cats remeber they wernt rounded up at the local poor house and shipped off to some slave labor camp. Chances are the ones playing the games are in the age range of 16-21 and dont want to work at burger king.
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lol good job, whenever im in quif with my Blm i like to agro wright and bring them to the fishing bots lol then i just warp my ass out and come back to watch the killing start, its always funny to see them go down. but dont worry if you fish in quif i make sure there bots befor i do it lol :P
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lol good job, whenever im in quif with my Blm i like to agro wright and bring them to the fishing bots lol then i just warp my ass out and come back to watch the killing start, its always funny to see them go down. but dont worry if you fish in quif i make sure there bots befor i do it lol :P
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#41 Dec 18 2004 at 6:17 AM Rating: Default
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lol good job man gil sellers = losers

Edited, Sat Dec 18 06:22:07 2004 by xCrawfordx
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#42 Dec 18 2004 at 7:32 PM Rating: Default
The Cats people arent gil sellers and they do speak english they just love the fact that people consider them gil sellers and they admit to it.

Its just a guy using multiple acounts and sometimes someone else controls a cat thats why they sometimes seperate. Me and my friend were able to talk to them we were lucky they answered I think its because I gave them a compliment I dont know.

That little gesture in Jeuno where they gave away all that money was just so they can try to make people stop doing the things they do. Thats just what I know if you want to flame me about this I dont care and why they wont say that there not gil sellers I dont know.
#43 Dec 18 2004 at 8:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'm sure the cats are controlled by a legitimate person because you know, who doesn't enjoy parking their ass in Kuftal Tunnel 24/7?
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#44 Dec 19 2004 at 5:26 AM Rating: Default
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The Cats grabbed Aquarius from me a few hours ago. They had one sitting in Boyhada for a long time. It spawned and I engaged. I knew it was gonna be bad but I wanted to try anyway. I found a lone JP BST and invited him to party.

Things were going a little rough but we were surviving.

I failed a few charm because I forgot to unequip my dark staff after getting a bit of rest and it had just rolled over into Lightsday. Which has recently been a bane to Charm Success.
The failed charm allowed Aquarius to go yellow at 75% HP.

They quickly dispatched the little crab with the help of thier new member Zhuzhu or something.

They then warped out and I saw they were at Amemet camp a few minutes later.

The JP BSt and I bid our farewells and i warped out.


Before all this I had soloed a Elder Goobue which is still IT++ to me. I got 300exp and then killed my spider pet and got a Silk. yay for me :/

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#45 Dec 19 2004 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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im scurd thidion. hold me. o.O
anyhow, zygous... youre strange and MPKing the Cats are funny.
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Arionne wrote:

Here's something someone had posted here a long time ago... with pictures and some foul language.

http://www.cody-massin.com/ffxisuspended/

Man, thunderan is the coolest GM of them all ><
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#47 Dec 24 2004 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
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wow mr pheonixfag are you ever going to come out of the closet and state who you are? i have gained like 80k cp since i last checked this post. i more then likely xp more then you play and i wanna beat on ya. i hope ur not the 12 year old girl you sound like. and im gunna be your rate down golum for now on, i just did my 1st rate down.
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#48 Dec 28 2004 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
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What the flock is going on num nuts?

Are you flocking dumb?

Don't you know you could get banned for getting others killed?

No matter what others do, they are playing the game like everyone else. By law, it's YOU that will get booted out of FF for breaking the FFXI rules.

If you know what's best for you, and that goes for everyone else that like getting others killed, I would just mind my flocking own business.


Now read this out loud:

I AM- SOFA KING – RE TA DED! (READ IT FAST)
#49 Dec 28 2004 at 6:48 PM Rating: Default
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Flock you and your mother.
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#50 Dec 29 2004 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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Just wanted to say that yesterday, Catstails stopped and gave me a Raise III in Qufim on his way to Delfutt's Tower with Catsninja. They both stuck around making sure nothing aggroed me while I got to safety.

Later Catsteeth was camping the zone to the Tower and pulling Wights off zoning parties and saving their butts time and time again. That's all he was doing was saving parties at the zone.

Whether they are gil sellers or not, they seem to be good people (at least some of the time).

My problem with gil sellers has not been the fact that they sell gil, but rather the dirty and low down tactics and methods they use to get the gil. Additionally, I don't like the onese that camp one NM 24/7. It sounds like the Cats constantly move around so that they don't monopolize one mob all the time. If they constantly move around rather than camp one mob constantly, how are they different from any other NM camper who camps the NM for 8 hours? If they aren't interfering with my play or making my life (or anyone's life) a living hell, I can't say I dislike them too much.

So I will reserve judgment on the Cats. Especially since they are probably played by multiple people. As my LS mate said, some of them are good, some of them are bad. I just happen to run into them when they were good.
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#51 Dec 29 2004 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Lol! youre the best man! "Fuak" gil online!
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