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#1 Apr 17 2013 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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And the competition! The trailer(s) for Iron Man 3 haven't been emotionally charged as the Superman one. Not by a longshot. Going in the opposite direction, they're mostly explosion filled unapologetic in your face examples of action movie stereotypes. Also, it's the third movie. History has shown that the third movie is where a series starts really nose diving, so Tony has an uphill battle if he hopes this movie is to be successful. That's not to say it won't get people to watch. Like I said in the other trailer thread, a successful movie is one that draws in people that aren't fans, but that doesn't mean the movie is bad if it doesn't do that. I can't see this movie pulling in new fans, but it might be entertaining enough for the established fanbase.

I've liked Iron Man for a long while, and Robert Downey Jr is basically the perfect Stark (though he is too short for the role nitpick nitpick), so I'm hoping the movie is aimed at people like me mostly. It's a pretty low measure of success. Between these two movies, I'm sure Man of Steel will be this years must-see movie.

Iron Man vs Mandarin, who some would say is the main Tony Stark villain, though most Marvel fans will note that Marvel doesn't really do the whole main villain thing and goes for huge rogues galleries. Batman has Joker, Superman has Lex Luther. So this is kind of like that.



One thing, I just don't like the way Mandarin annunciates. It's ... weird.
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#2 Apr 17 2013 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Also, it's the third movie. History has shown that the third movie is where a series starts really nose diving, so Tony has an uphill battle if he hopes this movie is to be successful.


The second Iron Man movie was absolutely terrible, so I'm not so sure that the battle is uphill.
#3 Apr 17 2013 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:

I've liked Iron Man for a long while, and Robert Downey Jr is basically the perfect Stark (though he is too short for the role nitpick nitpick), so I'm hoping the movie is aimed at people like me mostly. It's a pretty low measure of success. Between these two movies, I'm sure Man of Steel will be this years must-see movie.

I think I only started paying attention to Iron Man because he was being portrayed by Robert Downey Jr. Is Gwyneth Paltrow going to be in it again? She needs to go. Ironman needs conflict - and to be single.
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#4 Apr 17 2013 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Also, it's the third movie. History has shown that the third movie is where a series starts really nose diving, so Tony has an uphill battle if he hopes this movie is to be successful.


The second Iron Man movie was absolutely terrible, so I'm not so sure that the battle is uphill.


It wasn't as good as the first, but I wouldn't call it terrible. I'm looking forward to this one anyway, as I have found them to be entertaining movies with entertaining characters.
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#5 Apr 17 2013 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Tony Stark is in here, somewhere...
#6 Apr 17 2013 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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You're beneath Stark.

Though probably not his programming. I bet it was JARVIS.
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#7 Apr 17 2013 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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You're beneath Stark.

Though probably not his programming. I bet it was JARVIS.


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#8 Apr 17 2013 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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@#$% off, AI JARVIS is awesome.

Also, Joss Whedon apparently loved IM3, so I'm remaining hopeful. I'm a little bummed that it doesn't seem like they'll bring in any of the other avengers at all, though. Just seems weird, given how they ended The Avengers, for them to not even have at least Bruce Banner in it. And Romanoff/Barton need some movieverse backstory established, desperately, because they're great characters and we're getting a little too far along in the series for that to not be covered yet. Especially since they're continuing to add characters into the series.

Also, I'm not a huge fan of Hank Pym. So.
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#9 Apr 17 2013 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
Look for Black Widow in Captain America 2. Rumar has it IM3 will be self contained, with perhaps a Guardians of the Galaxy and/or Ant Man lead in at the end. Perhaps you'll get some Hawkeye in Cap 2 as well, but I expect Thor 2 to be largely self contained, with some Thanos/Guardians of the Galaky/Avengers 2 lead in.

I almost think they'll hold of on Hulk, since he was the best part of Avengers. Give him his own movie after Avengers 3.
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#10 Apr 18 2013 at 2:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I really like the Movieverse they are building. Sure not every movie is great (Captain America Smiley: glare) but the complete picture pleases me very well this far. Looking forward to IM3. The shot in the trailer when the debris of Starks house fall down with rockets still slamming into it is awesome!

Edit to add: It could get a little awkward if they have to explain for every standalone hero they make a movie with "Oh but Cap and the other Avengers couldn't help him because they were busy doing this and that."

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I almost think they'll hold of on Hulk, since he was the best part of Avengers.
I like Hulk, and he was the movie MVP, but he doesn't translate well into the movieverse. It's the same concern I have with the upcoming Ant Man movie, with Hank Pym. What makes these characters interesting isn't the action and explosions and such, but that they're scientists in the background and as we've seen in the past Hulk movies, and even the Spider-Man movies, nobody seems to really care to show.

I'd go to theaters multiple times if we got Hank Pym or Bruce Banner going on Science Adventures and not just explosions and fight scenes, but that only draws in the old geeks, and doesn't really draw in the crowds to be considered a successful release. Hulk is a pretty one dimensional character, and that's pretty boring. Well, to me anyway.
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#12 Apr 18 2013 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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I thought the Hulk managed to be super interesting in Avengers. Granted, it's because of the parallels between Banner and Hulk, but it adds something deeper than a lot of the other characters have. I think the trick is probably to keep the Hulk out of play as much as you can. People want to see Banner struggle before he Hulks out.

I'm just not a huge fan of Hank Pym. I'll accept his presence as long as he brings Janet with him, though. Love her, and the Avengers are seriously lacking in female members, particularly since this world doesn't include the X-men.
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#13 Apr 18 2013 at 3:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm just not a huge fan of Hank Pym. I'll accept his presence as long as he brings Janet with him, though. Love her, and the Avengers are seriously lacking in female members, particularly since this world doesn't include the X-men.


Somehow this little paragraph transported me way back, just before the Onslaught made his presence known. Ah I think that was really the phase when I loved the Marvel Universe the most. The X-Men had an incredible line-up as did the Avengers. And then after the (mostly) brilliant Onslaught-thingy most of it went to shambles. Smiley: frown
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#14 Apr 23 2013 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I thought the Hulk managed to be super interesting in Avengers.
I felt Bruce Banner was interesting in the Avengers. Hulk just punctuated some scenes in a remarkably humorous way. I'd love a movie that focused on Banner and occasionally showed the Hulk, not the other way around. And not just super violent Hulk, but the Hulk that just wants to be accepted and not hunted. Pym has a lot of backstory that rarely gets explored, and they're going to have to eventually bring in Ultron if they continue doing Avengers movies. You simply can't do Ultron without first going into what set Pym off in it's creation. I guess a major part of it is I like the obscurer characters. Not obscure in that the real world doesn't know them, but the ones that are, in canon, a bit unknown. Spider-Man and Daredevil spent a majority of their careers in relative obscurity and hated slash hunted. Pym is basically a mad scientist that was basically headed to supervillainy but his wife knocked him off that course and now he's a guy who is trying to do right but keeps getting it wrong. To me, that's much more appealing than Steve Rogers' or Tony Starks' stories.

Gonna just put Marvel movies in this thread, and DC movies in the Superman thread. Thor 2: The Dark World trailer.

I'll admit I'm not as well read up on Thor as I am other characters, so I don't really recognize who or what the bad guys here are. I notice Sif getting a bit of a fight scene, instead of just standing there like she did the first movie. I'm hoping Volstagg, Hogun, and Fandral get some equal opportunity to kick **** as well. Looks like a love story with action scenes. And, you know. Loki. I might not be that well read up on Thor, but Loki I've got a pretty good read for. Always an amusing read.

Edited, Apr 23rd 2013 4:05pm by lolgaxe
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#16 Apr 23 2013 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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That had to recast Fandral, which is something of a shame, but it's not like he was a major part. I just like the actor (meaning I find him sexually attractive).

I know the basics of the story behind the Thor villains. Enough that I won't be relying completely on the movie for the information, which is really good enough for me. I'm less interested in Thor than the other characters.

And I DEFINITELY agree with you about the Hulk vs. Banner thing. I'd love a movie dedicated to Banner, I really would. I'd even be happy if they'd just do a Barton/Banner movie. I mean, Hawkeye desperately needs to be fleshed out in the universe, and the interplay between the two of them is always great. And they didn't get ANY interaction in the Avengers movie, which is a **** shame...
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#17 Apr 29 2013 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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Amazing Spider-Man 2: Electro Boogaloo
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I know he's blue in Ultimate, but beyond that and his power set, I don't know much about him. Also, looks like we're going to the more traditional Spider-suit for the next movie. Ignore the Spider-*****. We'll see when they start adding computer enhancements, like removing the light diodes from Jamie Foxx's hoodie (Black guy, villain, hoodie? Really Marvel?) and whether or not they'll make the white eyes on Spidy more reflective or not. Oh, and Mary Jane..
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#18 May 02 2013 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Marvel is really pumping out the movies. I kind of wish DC would have more faith in their properties, but the last time they tried to deviate from Superman and Batman we got that monstrosity that was Green Lantern. Anyway, first up is Captain America - Winter Soldier
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Rag tag group of space heroes fighting space villains, mostly. The comics themselves have been pretty good in the past, with really interesting characters. For the most part, X-Men and Avengers have human-esque characters, whereas the GotG has a talking gun-totting raccoon, a tree ("I AM GROOT!"), and a super smart Russian dog alongside the **** green-chick and other humanoid characters. That alone makes it interesting to me. So far all I've found is the casting, with Zoe Saldana (Uhura in the Star Trek reboot) as Gamara (previously refered to "**** green chick," also badass martial artist slash warrior) Chris Pratt (Nothing that comes to mind) as Star-Lord (essentially the "leader" of the outfit. Half human half alien, lots of guns, likes coffee), Michael Rooke (Merle from Walking Dead) as Yondu (blue dude, red fin-mohawk, usually with a bow and arrow), and Dave Bautista (big guy, WWE wrestler) as Drax the Destroyer (Big guy, WWE type) are essentially confirmed. Rocket Raccoon:
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I think there’s – here’s the thing: there are a lot of people who have a lot of ideas of who is right for Rocket Racoon. Rocket Racoon has been slightly different over the years, in the comic books, and within my scripts he is a very, very specific guy, and I think people are going to have to wait for a few weeks before they see [who will be cast]. We’ll get our dream guy, because a lot of people want to do it, so we’ll get the person who’s perfect for the role.

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(About using real raccoons) We did. I’ve done a lot of studying with real racoons, and we had real racoons come in. We’ve done photography with them, I’ve played with racoons, and fed racoons, and dealt a lot with real racoons to get some of the behaviour down, because it’s really, really important to me that Rocket Racoon, who is the heart of the movie, is not a cartoon character, it’s not Bugs Bunny in the middle of The Avengers, it’s a real, little, somewhat mangled beast that’s alone. There’s no one else in the universe quite like him, he’s been created by these guys to be a mean-*** fighting machine.
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That, to me anyway, pretty much confirms the rodent. And I seriously doubt that they'll make a movie with the rodent without the tree (I AM GROOT), and it isn't like said tree has many lines anyway. So for me, to make it a movie I seriously want to see all they'll have to do is add Cosmo, the talking Russian scientist dog.

That's what I've got for now. Marvel is calling these movies their "Phase 2," which is pretty cool to me. I'm gonna dig for some Ant-Man info, as he's the one I'm specifically waiting on.

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#19 May 02 2013 at 1:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Guardians is the team that Adam Warlock created post Infinity Gauntlet, right?

Marvel's next step should be a Captain America/Wolverine movie where they rescue Kid Magneto from a WWII concentration camp.
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#20 May 02 2013 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think so, but I could be wrong. From what little I know they were some sort of alternate-future time traveling group. I only really got into them in their v2 reboot where Adam Warlock was a member, but not really creator and didn't have anything to do with the Gauntlet initially.

I don't know if I'd like a whole movie like that, but little scenes, like flashbacks and such, would be pretty stellar. Cap could bump into Logan while freeing a camp, and a brief shot of Mags running out and such. Too bad different studios own the rights. Smiley: frown
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Guardians is the team that Adam Warlock created post Infinity Gauntlet, right?

Marvel's next step should be a Captain America/Wolverine movie where they rescue Kid Magneto from a WWII concentration camp.


Sony owns the rights to X-men. Fox owns the rights to Spider-Man and Fantastic Four.

So it's highly unlikely that the Marvel Movieverse is going to include any of those plots.

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I am sort of excited for Winter Soldier, actually. The movies finally made me like Captain America (I was never really a fan before).

Edited, May 3rd 2013 8:14am by idiggory
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#22 May 04 2013 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
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So yeah. That was pretty awesome. Some of the plot points were a bit weak, and the final battle, while appropriately epic, seemed a bit over done, but aside from that I have no real complaints. It was a **** fun ride.

Make sure you stay for the bit after the credits. It was great.
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#23 May 05 2013 at 3:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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So yeah. That was pretty awesome. Some of the plot points were a bit weak, and the final battle, while appropriately epic, seemed a bit over done, but aside from that I have no real complaints. It was a **** fun ride.

Make sure you stay for the bit after the credits. It was great.


That gives me some of my hope back. I read so much negative reviews about this movie it was really disheartening.
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One of the issues with reviews is that pretty much any review or discussion inevitably ends up comparing the movie to Iron Man 1/2 and The Avengers. It's not as good as Iron Man 1 or The Avengers, but it was still a fun ride and **** of a lot better than Iron Man 2.
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I read so much negative reviews about this movie it was really disheartening.
Most of the negative reviews I've seen are from die hard comic fans crying NOT MUH MANDARIN at the top of their lungs. Which is fine, because traditionally Mandarin has been a **** character. He started off as a xenophobic nationalist caricature with an awesome fu manchu, and he evolved into some generic business man slash corporate raider with an awesome fu manchu. He's such a boring character. I personally liked how they handled him. Anyway, it was a popcorn movie, not meant to be fine art or a manifesto of love to the source material. The ending was a little weak for me, but then I don't particularly enjoy "endless endings" that movies that aren't projected to have endings give you. Good twists, decent pacing, and RDJ being RDJ. Kind of felt like a Bond movie in some aspects. I enjoyed it, though not a opening weekend crowds full price show up in costume sort of deal. A should see, not a must see kind of deal.

The last little skit that these movies are now known for was particularly amusing, but I wish they would have at least mentioned Doc Samson. Really well done, and I hope more scenes like that happen in the future. Not specifically, just them interacting.
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#26 May 05 2013 at 3:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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it was still a fun ride and **** of a lot better than Iron Man 2.


Nice. I didn't hate Iron Man 2 so now I actually look forward again for part 3.

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Most of the negative reviews I've seen are from die hard comic fans crying NOT MUH MANDARIN at the top of their lungs..


That won't be a problem for me. Smiley: lol But I also read about glaring plotholes, the kind you can not easily ignore. And many seem to think that the movie pretty much ignores everything that happened in The Avengers which would be a bit lame.
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