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#1 Apr 17 2013 at 9:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Trailer came out last night, and I must say. I'm not a particular fan of DC comics in general, and the whole Superman thing was never particularly interesting to me. I know he's got good stories. He'd have to to survive this long, and have people so aggressively defend him when it's brought up. I just find the overall package uninteresting. The first movie I didn't particularly enjoy, but I guess that's to be expected. Similarly, the people that do like him said they did. That's fine and all, but I personally think the mark of success is to draw in new people, not to just appeal to the long time fans. Either way, the new trailer looks interesting enough for me to watch a little closer than I would normally considering the source material. Looks like an origin story, and I loooooove origin stories. Also, what little I've picked up from other sites it seems to also involve Dru-Zod and a Kryptonian invasion, which is probably a good "major conflict" to make a movie out of. Expecting Kneel Before Zod and an eruption of cheers from the audience, even if they won't know it as anything more than a meme.



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#2 Apr 17 2013 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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I liked the first one well enough, and honestly I'm not all that hard to please when it comes to superhero movies (though I never bothered seeing any of the "bad" ones), so I'll probably go see it and enjoy it.
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There's only one take you can do on superman, due to his problematic powerset.

I don't partiuclarly care for him, but I did enjoy Superman Returns, if only for the following scene.
#4 Apr 17 2013 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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That is indeed one of the greatest scenes of all time.
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#5 Apr 18 2013 at 3:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looks awesome. I'm a bit surprised Russell Crow did settle for a role this small.

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Kevin Spacey is such a criminally underutilized talent. Smiley: frown
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#7 Apr 29 2013 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kryptonian Armor. Kind of a Gears of War slash Skyrim thing going for it. Faora looks kind of hot, and Zod looks like an angry bro.
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#9 May 24 2013 at 7:31 AM Rating: Good
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I wish there was more DC news, but other than a few stills and trailers there's nothing. There is this page though, which was an amusing six minutes. Here's the first one I got.
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#11 Jun 14 2013 at 6:29 PM Rating: Good
Saw it & I am NOT happy.

2/3rds of this movie are pretty good. It's a pretty good sci-fi movie. The Smallville stuff was pretty great. It has what I think is the best Superhero fight scene ever filmed.

But it isn't a Superman movie. He never goes out of his way to reduce collateral damage. He barely saves anyone mid fight (besides Louis.) He @#%^ing kills Zod.

I didn't love Batman Begins, so I'm hoping they do something similar & knock the upcoming sequel to MoS out of the park. Or, at the very least, make a Superman movie. Superman Returns was hands DOWN a better Superman movie than this one. (Much Like Ang Lee's Hulk is a much better movie than Edward Norton's)

Edited, Jun 14th 2013 8:31pm by Omegavegeta
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#12 Jun 14 2013 at 7:05 PM Rating: Good
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Saw it & I am NOT happy.

2/3rds of this movie are pretty good. It's a pretty good sci-fi movie. The Smallville stuff was pretty great. It has what I think is the best Superhero fight scene ever filmed.

But it isn't a Superman movie. He never goes out of his way to reduce collateral damage. He barely saves anyone mid fight (besides Louis.) He @#%^ing kills Zod.

I didn't love Batman Begins, so I'm hoping they do something similar & knock the upcoming sequel to MoS out of the park. Or, at the very least, make a Superman movie. Superman Returns was hands DOWN a better Superman movie than this one. (Much Like Ang Lee's Hulk is a much better movie than Edward Norton's)

Edited, Jun 14th 2013 8:31pm by Omegavegeta


Disagree I liked the movie a lot, I felt the Lois + Superman parts were a bit forced but overall I enjoyed it. As for killing Zod he didnt have a choice that was the point. It was let innocents be hurt/killed or Zod, whom by all rights is just as powerful if not more powerful, being hes a trained soldier in combat where Superman wasnt. The whole point though is even when he was forced and had no other way he still regretted it. Superman returns, well lets say it took me 3 times before I finally made it though the movie and didnt fall asleep, It was completely forgettable I only remember a thing; The scene with the eye and bullet. which was in the beginning of the movie IIRC.

Also agree best fight scene big time, even if they did drag on a tad. Overall i liked the re-imagining, a little darker and needed to be softened up a bit here and there. But my wife hated it, she thought it was cheesy, I'm was like "Its a Superman movie there has to be alittle cheese" BTW can you PM me if you sat to the end of the credits she was in such a rush I got dragged out before seeing if there was a secret scene. She said its the first hero movie she just didnt like, Then proceeded to tell me I have bad taste in movies,
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#13 Jun 14 2013 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
Man of Steel had no after Credits anything.

As for where we disagree, killing Zod, if they spent 10 seconds during that overtly long final fight scene (which was awesome, btw) to show Superman attempting to save people & having it hinder his fight with Zod - fine. But they didn't. It happens, he feels bad for a 2nd, then he's kissing Lois. Even Batman in The Dark Knight Returns (comics) couldn't kill The Joker because that's the one line both of them will not cross.

And he crossed it. @#%^ing Superman. Complete & utter bullsh*t.

And don't get me started on the forced Louis/Superman relationship , the almost COMPLETE lack of Clark Kent (Sorry folks, Kal-El's an emo douche & he's the one you get to know the most throughout this movie), and all the "savior" imagery. Superman's a protector, not a savior. Someone should have told Snyder that.

This is the Prometheus of superhero movies. Looks great, lacks substance, & tries to do too many things making it fail at a lot of them.

Edited, Jun 14th 2013 9:52pm by Omegavegeta
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#14 Jun 14 2013 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
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http://www.newsarama.com/17745-the-10-worst-things-superman-ever-did.html
I particularly like 8,5,4, 1

He was fighting for his life,to stop Zod he was clearly out matched and was lucky to get him in that choke hold. You could tell he didnt want to like i said but had really no alternative given the narration of the film left out kryptonite , and Superman isnt some clean goody 2 shoes he has did some crazy **** over the years. Most of it was retconed or changed to be a different universe w/e later. Even on the cartoon JLU he lobotomizes Doomsday (and killed him in the comics), He once executed three kryptonians from an alternate universe, but i think that's been retconned too.

Im not saying it was perfect only that given his options it was really the only choice


Also did you notice the Lexcorp logo ? I thought that was a neat touch.
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#15 Jun 15 2013 at 2:15 AM Rating: Good
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Actually Superman has never killed Doomsday completely (thanks DC Smiley: oyvey). His last "death" was getting curb stomped by half a dozen Kryptonians that Brainiac had kidnapped before Krypton had exploded.
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#16 Jun 15 2013 at 2:20 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah Honestly DC has retconned so much It impossible to say whats real and whats not.

Edit: Superman didnt actually break Zods neck he used the Kryptonian Headlock and put him into a deep coma. Retconned!


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#17 Jun 15 2013 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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Even Batman in The Dark Knight Returns (comics) couldn't kill The Joker because that's the one line both of them will not cross.

And he crossed it. @#%^ing Superman. Complete & utter bullsh*t.


It's a Chris Nolan movie. He's not really into the whole "can't kill" deal, probably because his movies don't last forever, unlike the comics that just go on and on with multiverses, time traveling and all kinds of crap to prolong the story. Bruce let Ra's die when he could have saved him in Batman Begins. He also killed Harvey in The Dark Knight and (indirectly) killed Talia in The Dark Knight Rises.

Seems like Nolan prefers to make his superheroes a bit more flawed. More human, I suppose. I don't mind it; I always found the PG approach a bit off-putting.
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#18 Jun 15 2013 at 7:41 PM Rating: Good
Just got back from it. I give it a resounding "Meh".

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#19 Jun 15 2013 at 9:41 PM Rating: Good
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Seems like Nolan prefers to make his superheroes a bit more flawed. More human, I suppose. I don't mind it; I always found the PG approach a bit off-putting.


But that's the thing about this flick; Superman is distinctly more alien in Man of Steel. Listen; he can't save everyone but he would never knowingly kill - he's the ONE superhero who ALWAYS finds another way (well, most of DCs heroes, really). Giving him the ability to decide if someone lives or dies is literally the one thing he wouldn't ever knowingly do - & he'd try to minimize property damage (seriously. MILLIONS died in the background if you count the invasion, and maybe hundred to thousands more during the climax. He didn't even take the fight in Smallville to a @#%^ing cornfield). At least make it a mistake or something. "I didn't mean too!" Make him struggle with it. Don't move on to the obligatory kiss so soon.

It looks like we'll get another one of these before a JLA. Maybe some other DC hero movies. Little chance we see Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordon and despite the fact I'm a giant fan of his, I'm fine with that.

Make him the Barry Allen Flash, make someone else Hal, and everyone will be happy.

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#20 Jun 17 2013 at 9:07 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going with the general public on this one. I'm not even a fan of Clark's, and even I know that he's the epitome of boyscout. I think it was something about having all that power and having the responsibility to always do the right thing, no matter how much it hurts or how much he has to hold back. It's part of his development DNA. For the record, I haven't seen it yet; My initial plan was to wait for a matinee or something on the cheap.

I thought Ryan Reynolds was a great Hal Jordon, for what it's worth. That was a case of good casting in a bad movie. I'd still like to see him as Deadpool, though. You know, a real Deadpool and not Sniktbub, the Monster Without a Mouth. I don't know enough about Flash's personality to make the call on whether or not he'd be good for that role.
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#21 Jun 17 2013 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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I really don't like Super Man - always have - so I wasn't planning to see this film. It's, as lolgaxe pointed out, something about the character as a whole. I don't even mind "Clark Kent" it's the super version I can't stand.

He's just not anywhere close to being flawed enough. Way too powerful, way too good. And I just don't find the Kent/Superman dichotomy interesting (though Kent I have found interesting at times).

I like Batman because, even though he has a super strong code of ethics guiding his heroic activities, he's flawed. He's limited to what he can physically manage as a human being, using only his mind and body. And he's fighting to save something important to him - his own city, with all its quirks and failures. And that's well beyond his own capabilities.

It's why I vastly prefer Marvel, for the most part. Marvel "heroes" range everywhere from Big Good (Captain America) to seriously, seriously f***ed up (lol Deadpool). And they don't even agree with each other about what it means to be a hero, hence that pesky Civil War. And while the goody-two-shoes trope can be super annoying, at least Captain America is limited. If you shoot him, he may die. It doesn't take any special substances or circumstances. And he has his own emotional/personality baggage (even if it's not quite the level of, say, Wolverine's).

I feel like this is really Superman's problem, now. People don't want to watch a god-analog on screen. They want to see the underdog win - they want their heroes to be breakable, and they want to see them break. They want to love and hate the hero. And it's not just superheroes getting this treatment. Bond is becoming increasingly fallible over time, for instance.

I can't say I mind, really. Though it will always boggle my mind how DC has Watchmen and Bat Man, when they're so different from their other major properties.
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#22 Jun 17 2013 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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I feel like this is really Superman's problem, now. People don't want to watch a god-analog on screen. They want to see the underdog win - they want their heroes to be breakable, and they want to see them break. They want to love and hate the hero. And it's not just superheroes getting this treatment. Bond is becoming increasingly fallible over time, for instance.


I've always found the godlike superheroes more entertaining. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy a superhero who struggles nor that the two can't be combined. Even Dr. Manhattan struggled, despite being as close to a god as possible. The movie had some awesome Dr. Manhattan sequences in it. Really enjoyed those.



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#23 Jun 17 2013 at 10:15 PM Rating: Good
I think that's the distinction. Characters of the "a god made manifest" level can be done well, Superman is just a bad example. He has too much history and uneditable parts of his character to be really salvageable in today's media.

For a good example of an omnipotent character done well, there's always Dr. Manhattan, or Dream of the Endless (dat Death).
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The odd thing is that certain aspects of the character are just... creepy now.

The Superman/Lois/Clark Kent triangle for instance. That just reads to me like a massive justification of the Nice Guy™ attitude. Like, once Lois finally pulls her head out of the clouds she realizes that Clark is the guy who has been there for her all along, unlike that jerk Superman who would leave her hanging.

It just bugs me. The last set of Spider-Man movies did it too, but thankfully the new set haven't. Yet.
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#25 Jun 18 2013 at 10:58 PM Rating: Decent
Admin edit: Come on, really? you know better... Upon a 2nd viewing, I feel like it was a better movie as the big glaring thing I disliked the first time didn't seem as big a deal.

Which is kind of the problem, really. It happens, he screams, "NO!", hugs Lois, then is crashing a Satelite into the desert & getting checked out not even a minute later. That should have been handled better.

I also didn't realize just how bad Smallville got leveled during the fight there. I had forgotten, or hadn't noticed, that Superman started it off by flying Zod FROM the farm into the center of town, into a gas station, ON PURPOSE.

Cool flick, but It still missed a lot of what makes Superman, well, Superman.

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Apparently this movie set the record for most promotional tie-ins ever, with over 100 companies paying over $160 million to have their brand featured in the movie.

The previous record was, ironically, set by the Lorax, with over 70. Superman beats it in number of companies, range of products, and revenue.

It sort of makes me wonder just how much further we can go...

I have no problem with promotions when they actually tie in to the movies. But product placement for the sake of placement bugs me. You're going to have a bunch of cars in the movie? Cool, let companies pay you to feature those vehicles in those scenes. There's a scene in a movie theater? Cool, let a company pay you to determine what snacks the theater-goers are eating. Etc.

I just worry that we're starting to enter territory where the movies become big ads ("Nokia is from Sweden!").

I can't comment on how bad this was in Man of Steel, not having seen it, but the promotional ad campaigns around the film are pretty extensive. I'm more worried about future directions than the situation as it is now.
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Apparently this movie set the record for most promotional tie-ins ever, with over 100 companies paying over $160 million to have their brand featured in the movie.

The previous record was, ironically, set by the Lorax, with over 70. Superman beats it in number of companies, range of products, and revenue.

It sort of makes me wonder just how much further we can go...

I have no problem with promotions when they actually tie in to the movies. But product placement for the sake of placement bugs me. You're going to have a bunch of cars in the movie? Cool, let companies pay you to feature those vehicles in those scenes. There's a scene in a movie theater? Cool, let a company pay you to determine what snacks the theater-goers are eating. Etc.

I just worry that we're starting to enter territory where the movies become big ads ("Nokia is from Sweden!").

I can't comment on how bad this was in Man of Steel, not having seen it, but the promotional ad campaigns around the film are pretty extensive. I'm more worried about future directions than the situation as it is now.


That is an interesting tidbit. I don't mind product placement so much as long as it's not blatant (e.g. not actually pointed out in the movie). The commercial tie-ins that I keep seeing are kind of annoying though, but I guess not much more so than any other bad commercial.
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I just worry that we're starting to enter territory where the movies become big ads ("Nokia is from Sweden!").
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#29 Jun 19 2013 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
Only thing I noticed besides a Lexcorp truck was the IHop, which I did think must have payed a ton given there are two scenes there.
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The movie in general gets an enthusiastic meh from me. The story in the latest Transformers movie was more complex than in this movie. That pretty much leaves the action scenes, which while well made, were overdone and tended to last too long. The romance with Lois was so forced as to be laughable, and was a terrible waste of Amy Adams abilities. The thing that really bothered me though, was the blatant destruction of buildings, vehicles, and the massive casualties that would result from it all. They went out of their way to fight in the most populated areas they could, and that just doesn't jive with the way Superman operates. I also wasn't a fan of Superman killing, even if it was setup in such a way that he didn't have much choice.

As to product placement, the IHOP was fairly hard to miss, they must have spent a fortune for that much screen time. I didn't really notice any of the others though.

As a side note, I don't know if it was just the theater I was in or a problem with the movie itself, but this is easily the loudest movie I've ever been to. It was loud enough that it gave me a headache for several hours after the movie ended. I've been to concerts that didn't put out as much sound as this movie did.

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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I just worry that we're starting to enter territory where the movies become big ads ("Nokia is from Sweden!").


I'm guessing it's a quote from a movie, or something, right?

Because Nokia is from Finland.
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I just worry that we're starting to enter territory where the movies become big ads ("Nokia is from Sweden!").


I'm guessing it's a quote from a movie, or something, right?

Because Nokia is from Finland.


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#35 Jun 22 2013 at 7:17 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah I did that from memory. I didn't care that much.
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#36 Jun 24 2013 at 6:13 AM Rating: Good
Went and saw it.
It was an OK movie. I think it was better then some of the ones in the past. I'm not a huge DC fan, but I know how Superman stories work. The movie was a bit darker imo.
I did think that it was a bit much destruction, but if an alien race showed up and wanted to tera-form the planet I don't think they would go about it in a non-destruction way. There would just be to many people in areas to evact them all -.-
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I thought it was decent. Those action scenes definitely made up for any shortcomings elsewhere though. Smiley: drool
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This kinda made me think, which is something I try to avoid when it comes to superhero movies.

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Lex did a similar rant.
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Some interesting food for thought, though I don't think Lex is quite that admirable? Maybe I need to read the comics...
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Dark Horse is kind of a DC affiliate, so I might as well put the trailer for RIPD here. Besides, we already mentioned Ryan Reynolds so appropriate either way. Or not. Don't care. I read the comics, and the premise is pretty straight forward and interesting enough to consider it. Though admittedly, it will be a pretty standard action flick with explosions and ridiculous special effects. I enjoyed the books enough to see the movie, but not enough to see it full price if that makes sense. If you must know, it's basically Men In Black, but with dead things instead of alien things. So if you liked MIB, there's a pretty good chance this'll be your kind of flick.
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Hm not too impressive. But I like Jeff Bridges so I might give it a shot.
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Looks like a fun flick. I'm a big fan of Briges and Reynolds, so this is definitely one I'll watch.
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Usually those movies are cliche as **** but fun for a good mindless movie night.
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Please respect the spoiler tag for films that have only been out one weekend. I get that at some point spoilers become irrelivent, But also understand that if you spoil a movie I am waiting to see, you will have to breath through a tube for the next 30 years, on account of the whole "you being buried alive somewhere under 34 metric tons of concrete with only tofu and stale water to eat and drink, and a constant looped recording of ' I will not spoil movies that Kao want's to see yet' playing in the background" thing. That would probably put a cramp on your movie viewing habits to say the least.
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The comic I linked has large words at the top that specifically state that it's a spoiler. I figured that was enough, My bad.
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Usually those movies are cliche as **** but fun for a good mindless movie night.


My thoughts exactly.
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Please respect the spoiler tag for films that have only been out one weekend. I get that at some point spoilers become irrelivent, But also understand that if you spoil a movie I am waiting to see, you will have to breath through a tube for the next 30 years, on account of the whole "you being buried alive somewhere under 34 metric tons of concrete with only tofu and stale water to eat and drink, and a constant looped recording of ' I will not spoil movies that Kao want's to see yet' playing in the background" thing. That would probably put a cramp on your movie viewing habits to say the least.


Dammit, Kao, you spoiled the ending...

Wanted to find out on my own. Smiley: frown
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#49 Jun 25 2013 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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So I heard this morning that there is no KNEEL BEFORE ZOD which, if true, completely removes any and all interest in seeing Man of Steel at all. Any confirmation?
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#50 Jun 25 2013 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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I don't specifically remember it in the movie, so probably not.
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#51 Jun 25 2013 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
lolgaxe wrote:
So I heard this morning that there is no KNEEL BEFORE ZOD which, if true, completely removes any and all interest in seeing Man of Steel at all. Any confirmation?



There was no line said of that. When he 1st meets Zod, he says something like "you must be Zod" and the chick was all like "***** IT IS GENERAL ZOD, M.F GET IT RIGHT!"

That last part might be wrong. That is when the screen and power cut out due to a storm rolling through She did correct him tho :3
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