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#52 Apr 22 2013 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
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I wonder if they're going to show Coldhands at all. If so, will they show his face? There's been a lot of speculation that he is Benjen Stark, so showing his face could be kind of a big reveal.
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#53 Apr 22 2013 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I wonder if they're going to show Coldhands at all. If so, will they show his face? There's been a lot of speculation that he is Benjen Stark

He's clearly not.

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#54 Apr 22 2013 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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A solid episode all around, probably the best one so far this season. The only low point was the Bran scene, but there isn't a whole lot they can do with him until they reach the wall. I especially enjoyed the scene featuring Tywin and Cersei. She's needed a good kick in the *** for a while now. I'm rather curious to see if her downfall will be as drastic as it is the books.
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I do hope so.
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#56 Apr 23 2013 at 5:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Loved this episode. I've not read the books, but I saw Dany's scene coming. Still, it was great - so good to see her finally become something closer to a leader.
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Loved this episode. I've not read the books, but I saw Dany's scene coming. Still, it was great - so good to see her finally become something closer to a leader.

Hopefully they'll either leave out all of the "re awaking sexuality" stuff for her from the books, or at least hire Mercedes Lackey to write it. For some strange reason, the imaginings of a fat neck beard fantasy author about what a young girls vision of sexual longing might be doesn't really work.
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#58 Apr 26 2013 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
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It's HBO. They'll just have to show her tits a few times.
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#59 Apr 26 2013 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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It's HBO. They'll just have to show her tits a few times.

Iir Dany just does the girl on girl thing until Daario enters the story - should be lotsa tit.
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#60 Apr 26 2013 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
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It's HBO. They'll just have to show her tits a few times.

Iir Dany just does the girl on girl thing until Daario enters the story - should be lotsa tit.

And a few times afterwards, iirc?
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#61 Apr 29 2013 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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Lots of boob-viewing last night, but hardly got to see any of Jaime's nakedness. I think the writing team is lacking straight women. Maybe Grey Worm will show some skin.

The Frey fiasco has begun.....

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Lots of boob-viewing last night, but hardly got to see any of Jaime's nakedness. I think the writing team is lacking straight women. Maybe Grey Worm will show some skin.

The Frey fiasco has begun.....


A mixed bag last night, I think.

The dude playing Beric is kinda really badass. He's a great pairing with Thoros, too. I wish we'd see more of them but we probably won't.

Jaime's scene was great. It got a tad melodramatic at the end, though. And any scene with Tywin is a good scene. Barristan Selmy is coming off rather presumptuous.

But Robb, though...

TOO MUCH FORESHADOWING. TOO MUCH. STEP THAT **** BACK.


I don't like how they're handling his story at all.
#63 Apr 29 2013 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe Grey Worm will show some skin.

I forgot he doesn't really have skin - ******** anyways. He was kind of hot though.

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I don't like how they're handling his story at all.
Exactly. Though maybe it's just a side-effect of having read the books.

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I forgot he doesn't really have skin - ******** anyways. He was kind of hot though.


Well, he doesn't have balls either.
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I think it's funny seeing Sansa and Littlefinger on screen together. She makes him look like a dwarf.

Also... Ygritte was a nice way to break the nudity dry spell. Smiley: nod

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I just read this article regarding a US politico and his comments on the record amounts of torrent piracy that GoT has instilled. I found this excerpt quite funny:

Taking a page from Bleich’s book, however, the Underwire staff decided to imagine how other Game of Thrones characters would feel about torrenting Game of Thrones:

Ned Stark: Waits for the DVD, and grimaces quietly as everyone who downloaded it spoils all the twists on Twitter.

Littlefinger: Pirates it, sells bootleg DVDs, and then publicly tut tuts about the evils of illegal downloading.

Jon Snow: Insists that he doesn’t watch it or care about the show but secretly reads summaries on Wikipedia.

Salladhor Saan: Pirates it, obviously.

Davos: Used to pirate, but got slapped on the wrist with an RIAA “copyright alert letter” and is now on the straight and narrow.

Robb Stark: Watched a pirated version at a friend’s house by accident and then felt so guilty he pre-ordered all the DVDs AND subscribed to HBO.

Melisandre: Doesn’t watch the show. She’s read the books, so she’s already knows what’s going to happen anyway. Or so she thinks.

Theon Greyjoy: Pirates it, but has to pay the Iron Price: seeding long enough to get his share ratio to 1:1. House Greyjoy: WE DO NOT SUBSCRIBE.
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#69 Apr 30 2013 at 8:18 AM Rating: Good
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The best moment the show has ever given me was when Tywin told Cercei she was marrying Loras Tyrell. I instantaneously paused the show and laughed my head off until my partner finally complained. Frick, that's the funniest funniest thing to happen in fiction or fact all year.

This is one of my all time favourite episodes. Stannis' little daughter was such a splendid, happy little thing, even though she seemed very confined to dark rooms in a dark castle. She got a good intro with the Onioin Knight consolidating her after her father's visit. I wonder if there is anything to her facial disfigurement looking sorta scaly? She's living in Dragonstone, that was the seat of the Targaryons, wasn't it? Her mother got creepier and creepier, finishing with the pickled stillborn babies. EEURCH.

The fight scene in the dark with the flaming sword was spectacular. Just gorgeous. Arya crying over Ned being unable to be resurrected was so sad. AND she's losing Gendry right when she's down. Although no time is a good time to lose Gendry. =( But I can see why Gendry wants to stay with the BwB. And no wonder people follow the Lord of Light when your God actually RESURRECTS people! Jesus Christ! Um... well yeah, Jesus Christ!

And... what a wildcard. Valar Morghulis, "All men die"..... Unless you're standing next to Thoros! O_o

Yay! John Snow's lovely prettiness was finally put to good use by Ygritte. And apparently he reinvented oral *** on the spot, which is VERY boss for a virgin. It seems that underneath he's still loyal to the Night's Watch, though. That has to be a lie that there's a thousand men back at Castle Black. Talking about bathing, the Brienne-Jaime scene. My god, what this show can do with extended scenes. I found it extremely powerful, and I was mesmerized by both of them... every little facial expression spoke a thousand words. And the make-up department deserves an award. It was really good to hear more around Mad King Aerys' death. But I really can't FEEL why people in Westeros hate Jaime more for breaking his oath to the king than they like him for winning the rebellion for them when pretty much everyone wanted Aerys dead, including Tywin Lannister, who seems to have betrayed Aerys every bit as much as Jaime did by opening the gates to the rebel Baratheon/Starks while he was Hand.

That was a ***** of an episode for Robb. He's not having a good season. First there wasn't much of him, and now he's having to kill his allies. It's really not looking good. When he scrunched his fist up in pain as he walked away from the execution, I really felt it. He's so reduced since he rode up to Catelyn having just captured Jaime.

Sansa IS a good little liar these days, she lied straight to Littlefinger's face. Shame it wasn't because she knows he's slime. Poor Tyrion really isn't back to his old self totally yet. Although he's still got his morals. I think he's right. I love Tyrion to death, but Sansa? I don't think so. Especially while she's infatuated with Loras. WHich brings us back to Cercei and Loras! Cercei may have been the Evil Queen ***** of the Kingdom while Robert was alive, but being handed off to LORAS by her father just pulls all the authority out of her. Maybe not technically, but metaphorically? Oh My God. Loras! Who is offloaded to whom in that match?



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I take it you mean Stannis' daughter. Smiley: wink Her disfigurement comes from a disease. Forgot the name but it is rather lethal and the ones that survive it have these scale-like skin on large parts of their bodies afterwards. Her mother the queen is even crazier than in the books. Nice little touch with her dead fetuses (?) swimming around in glas jars. Reminded me of the Governor from Walking Dead.

Melisandres and Thoros' god does not resurrect anyone. Beric is a special case. I won't go into details because books and spoilers and such. But as he himself said in the episode it does not feel very good to constantly get killed and resurrected again.

Jaime is not really hated because he killed Aerys. That's just the reason almost no one trusts him because he broke his sworn oath rather spectacularly. The reason most people dislike him is that he comes across as arrogant, selfish and ruthless. I find it sad that the many POV chapters he gets in the books can not adequately be translated into the series because they made him one of my favourite characters ever. The bathing scene was the first time in the GoT series where he came across as someone likeable. At least that's my impression. He had some badass scenes before but none that made him very sympathetic.

Yeah Robb should have learned this lesson when Ned was decapitated. Being honorably is not always the smartest move. He should have listened to his advisers but just like his father he is pretty stubborn in his views.
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I take it you mean Stannis' daughter. Smiley: wink Her disfigurement comes from a disease. Forgot the name but it is rather lethal and the ones that survive it have these scale-like skin on large parts of their bodies afterwards.


Greyscale, right? It's talked about more later on in the series; and what happens to some of those who contract it. "Fatal" is only half of it.

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Could you explain this in a Spoiler tag? As far as I remember, Thoros did bring Dondarrion back through prayer (though the first time it was accidental). And yeah, dying is never pleasant, even when you can come back Smiley: lol

One thing I found funny is that the actor who plays Dondarrion is in his 40s, but in the book, the character is only 21 or 22 in the books. Sure, getting killed and resurrected can age you, but usually not THAT much! Smiley: tongue
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Could you explain this in a Spoiler tag? As far as I remember, Thoros did bring Dondarrion back through prayer (though the first time it was accidental). And yeah, dying is never pleasant, even when you can come back Smiley: lol

Basically after the first time Beric died Thoros was all set to perform the last rites of R'Hllor. The last part is basically breathing fire down the dead guy's throat to cleanse him. Instead of being cleansed Beric springs back to life.

I think as far as spoilers go he's referring to the whole Lady Stoneheart thing.
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Could you explain this in a Spoiler tag? As far as I remember, Thoros did bring Dondarrion back through prayer (though the first time it was accidental). And yeah, dying is never pleasant, even when you can come back Smiley: lol

Basically after the first time Beric died Thoros was all set to perform the last rites of R'Hllor. The last part is basically breathing fire down the dead guy's throat to cleanse him. Instead of being cleansed Beric springs back to life.

I think as far as spoilers go he's referring to the whole Lady Stoneheart thing.


That and the possibility that Melisandre was wrong about Stannis being the chosen one. And that the real chosen one is this lifeforce that first brings back Beric and later Cat. My memory is a bit hazy but I remember reading a theory that explained how this could be pretty good. My money is on Daenarys for being the champion of light though. But with GRRM you never know for sure.
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Could you explain this in a Spoiler tag? As far as I remember, Thoros did bring Dondarrion back through prayer (though the first time it was accidental). And yeah, dying is never pleasant, even when you can come back Smiley: lol

Basically after the first time Beric died Thoros was all set to perform the last rites of R'Hllor. The last part is basically breathing fire down the dead guy's throat to cleanse him. Instead of being cleansed Beric springs back to life.

I think as far as spoilers go he's referring to the whole Lady Stoneheart thing.


But with GRRM you never know for sure.

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This reminds me of an utter wildcard theory I have. It came about because of an interview I watched with Benioff or Weiss. He was talking about why GRRM gave the TV rights to Benioff and Weiss, the deciding factor. (After all, GRRM specifically wrote ASOIAF because it wasn't a story that Hollywood could in any way, shape or form fit into a TV script. He was a TV scriptwriter, and sick of the limitations of the medium.)

GRRM asked B&W "Who do you think Jon Snow's mother is?". Benioff (or Weiss?) said they kind of panicked, because they had no idea who she was, but they looked at each other, and made a wild guess based on their understanding of GRRM's storytelling. GRRM didn't tell them if they were right or wrong, but his face broke out into a huge grin, and he said back to them: "I like the way your minds work." So my wildcard guess for John Snow's mother is Cercei. His father is NOT Jaime, could be Robert, or could be someone else entirely because Cercei's marriage to Robert originally was purely political and not based on love on either side.
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So my wildcard guess for John Snow's mother is Cercei. His father is NOT Jaime, could be Robert, or could be someone else entirely because Cercei's marriage to Robert originally was purely political and not based on love on either side.


Hmm have not thought of that. He has dark hair so it could be possible because the seed is strong. Smiley: wink But at least in the books Cersei almost never had real intercourse with Robert but pleased him with hand or mouth. Also she was already knocked up by Jaime many times she lay with Robert. The next spoiler is in my eyes the solution to this little riddle so seriously do not read it if you want to keep wondering about Jon Snow. He is most likely the son of Rhaegar and the late Lyanna Stark. Robert always said how Rhaegar raped her etc etc. But the Rhaegar Barristan Selmy recalls would never do such a thing. Lyanna fell in love with her captor and had a child with him. The reason she died was not some kind of torture but a difficult birth labor. It would explain why Ned is so adamant in keeping the secret about Jons mother. And he would not have besmirched his honor. It also fits with Neds memories of her last moments in which she pleaded with him "Promise me, Ned. Promise me." Or something similar.

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