Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

3-D The Great and Powerful...Follow

#1 Mar 10 2013 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
16,065 posts
I went and saw Oz the Great and Powerful last night. The 3-D was getting played up and I'm a sucker for special effects. Much like The Adventures of Tin Tin the opening credit sequence of Oz was some of the most exciting 3-D filming.

Over all though the effects were better than most I've seen. I flinched a couple times and had to restrain my hand from reaching out to floaty stuff at least once. The story was not spectacular but it didn't suck either - same the acting. The cinematography seemed to take top billing - Oz was spectacular, but it felt just a bit sloppy. I appreciate that they stayed true to Frank Baums world of Oz with young Oz even bestowing gifts to the adventurers at the end .

China Girl was done really well right down to the sounds her wired together, glassy body made when she ran. The character was pretty sweet too.

What 3-D movies have people seen where the 3-D was noticeably effective?
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#2 Mar 10 2013 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
*****
19,871 posts
I generally don't go to see 3D movies, as I usually end up nauseous or they give me a headache (or both). Using the 3DS for more than a few minutes tends to give me a terrible headache.

That said, part of me really wishes I had seen Toy Story 3 in 3D. Or at least tried. Everyone I know who saw it said it was spectacularly well done, and people I know who are like me said they didn't have any problems. I've started to think that the issue for me is when films aren't built from the ground-up to handle 3D. But I have little desire to test this out, for obvious reasons.
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#3 Mar 10 2013 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
Needs More Smut
Avatar
******
20,445 posts
The Muppet Show "4D" down in MGM Studios was an early pioneer and they did a very good job. The "4D" came from the fact that they had stuff like bubbles and splashes of water timed along with the movie, and the two cranky old guys were actually there, in their corner booth, jeering at the 3D movie in what was actually live puppeteering or the best animatronics I've ever seen. Other muppets randomly appeared throughout the theater as well. It was a short movie, fifteen minutes at most, and those kind of live effects would be tough to reproduce in mass market theaters, but to this day I consider it the gold standard.

Disney attractions actually tend to be some of the best early adopters. Over in Tokyo Disney Sea they had a kiddie attraction based on Finding Nemo where little kids could "talk" in real time to a turtle named Crash. The turtle was real time, HD computer graphics being manipulated by a puppeteer and voice actor in a booth. The puppet was actually connected to the CG engine via motion capture, so the CG fish appeared to be having an actual conversation with the little kids in the audience (in Japanese, of course.) It was incredibly well done and probably could not have been possible just a few years ago, due to the sheer processing power required to output the CG in real time movie quality.

____________________________
FFXI: Catwho on Bismarck. Once again a top bard on the server: Dardaubla 90 on 1/6/2014
Thayos wrote:
I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

FFXIV: Katarh Mest on Lamia - Member of The Swarm and leader of Grammarian Tea House chat LS
#4 Mar 11 2013 at 12:19 AM Rating: Good
I still see 3D as being much more of a gimmick than anything, and I usually don't pay the extra to see it in 3D. That said, I'd love to be proved wrong. Anyone know of any movies that are significantly better in 3D?

I guess by better I mean whatever definition you want to use.
____________________________
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I have a racist ****.

Steam: TuxedoFish
battle.net: Fishy #1649
GW2: Fishy.4129

#5 Mar 11 2013 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
Keeper of the Shroud
*****
13,105 posts
Most of the movies I've seen in 3D, the 3D is more of a nuissance than anything. The only movie I've seen where it really worked is Avatar.
#6 Mar 11 2013 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
*****
19,871 posts
The problem is that most "3D" movies actually aren't. They put the 3D in later using computers. It ends up giving it a sort of "layered" feel, where you're looking at a diorama, not a 3D set.

But filming from the ground up in 3D alleviates that issue, and it's supposedly fantastic. Very, very few movies are done that way, though, because it's extremely expensive and it needs to be done in addition to the work of normal filming (because you're obviously not going to release it in only 3D).

Toy Story 3 was designed, frame by frame, with 3D in mind. And I hear it was spectacular as a result. Everything in the picture was properly rendered in 3D, no awkward foreground/background stuff, no flat surfaces that weren't meant to be flat, etc. But that's second-hand knowledge only--I haven't seen it.
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#7 Mar 11 2013 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
16,065 posts
catwho wrote:
The Muppet Show "4D" down in MGM Studios was an early pioneer and they did a very good job.

Yes! I saw this at Epcot nearly 30 years ago. It's the 3-D standard that i compare today's mass viewed 3-D entertainment to. Disney also does one at their parks called Honey I Shrunk the Audience that is really good 3-D too.

I imagine that the lackluster 3-D of the average movie is due in part to the theater. The Disney theaters with active chairs perfectly placed around a big properly curved and illuminated 3-D screen (plus the 4-D effects, acoustics etc) versus Theater #7 at the Regal 10 makes a ton of difference in the 3-d viewing experience.

I still lack an IMAX screen within a reasonable driving distance.
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#8 Mar 11 2013 at 9:52 AM Rating: Good
****
5,356 posts
IMAX is a similar gimmick. Some movies are designed for it and work really well (Avatar, Fantasia 2000, etc) but for most movies it's just an extra large screen and doesn't really add anything to the experience.
____________________________
75 Rabbit/75 Sheep/75 Coeurl/75 Eft/75 Raptor/75 Hippogryph/75 Puk
75 Scorpion/75 Wamoura/75 Pixie/75 Peiste/64 Sabotender
51 Bird/41 Mandragora/40 Bee/37 Crawler/37 Bat

Items no one cares about: O
Missions no one cares about: O
Crafts no one cares about: O
#9 Mar 11 2013 at 10:31 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
I wish 3D worked for me. Something about my eyes or the combination of having to wear the glasses over my normal glasses or something makes it a dud for me. Even animated flicks designed from the ground up in 3D don't do anything for me.

I can't see Magic Eye drawings either.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#10 Mar 11 2013 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
Avatar
****
4,322 posts
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I generally don't go to see 3D movies, as I usually end up nauseous or they give me a headache (or both). Using the 3DS for more than a few minutes tends to give me a terrible headache.

That said, part of me really wishes I had seen Toy Story 3 in 3D. Or at least tried. Everyone I know who saw it said it was spectacularly well done, and people I know who are like me said they didn't have any problems. I've started to think that the issue for me is when films aren't built from the ground-up to handle 3D. But I have little desire to test this out, for obvious reasons.


idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I generally don't go to see 3D movies, as I usually end up nauseous or they give me a headache (or both). Using the 3DS for more than a few minutes tends to give me a terrible headache.

That said, part of me really wishes I had seen Toy Story 3 in 3D. Or at least tried. Everyone I know who saw it said it was spectacularly well done, and people I know who are like me said they didn't have any problems. I've started to think that the issue for me is when films aren't built from the ground-up to handle 3D. But I have little desire to test this out, for obvious reasons.



I can't play my 3DS at all without getting sick. Even if I just pick it up and look at a 3D photo for a couple of seconds it makes me feel sick. I also don't do the red/green red/blue very well either.

One 3D that doesn't bother me though is the kind they use in theaters now. I have seen several 3D movies and not gotten sick once off of any of them.
____________________________
Hi
#11 Mar 11 2013 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
*****
19,871 posts
I really, really hate the 3DS. For many reasons, but that's one of them.
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#12 Mar 11 2013 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
16,065 posts
I've never had any problems with 3-D movies making me sick, but lately some PC games have gotten to my stomach. Most recently Overlord II.
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#13 Mar 11 2013 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
Lunatic
******
29,431 posts
I wish 3D worked for me. Something about my eyes or the combination of having to wear the glasses over my normal glasses or something makes it a dud for me. Even animated flicks designed from the ground up in 3D don't do anything for me.

I can't see Magic Eye drawings either.


Same. Weird coincidence. Are you also farsighted?
____________________________
Disclaimer:

To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? ***. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#14 Mar 11 2013 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
16,065 posts
Jophiel wrote:


I can't see Magic Eye drawings either.
Magic Eye takes training.

I wear the 3-D glasses over my regular glasses. I'm not sure if that does anything to the effects or not, but maybe I'll try without them next time. I'm only a bit near-sighted.


____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#15 Mar 11 2013 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
*****
19,871 posts
I don't wear glasses, I can do magic eyes, and no color combinations are bad from me (that I've ever noticed). I have been getting headaches lately that may do to vision. But that's really hard to know, considering how much time I actually spend reading/looking at screens. Hard to know what's just generic strain, and what's overcompensation.

I keep meaning to make an appointment at the eye doctor... My mother has terrible vision, and my dad needs to use reading glasses, so it wouldn't be surprising if I ended up needing them.
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#16 Mar 11 2013 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
Magic eyes are awesome. I can do them backwards too, where the image looks like it's going into the page instead of out.

3D's never been a problem for me. I am, however, blind as a bat. Contacts are awesome, and I want to get LASIK eventually.

I think I may have actually seen Avatar in 3D back in the day. Tough to remember. If I did, it obviously didn't leave a huge impression on me then.
____________________________
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I have a racist ****.

Steam: TuxedoFish
battle.net: Fishy #1649
GW2: Fishy.4129

#17 Mar 11 2013 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
Encyclopedia
******
31,748 posts
Elinda wrote:
Jophiel wrote:


I can't see Magic Eye drawings either.
Magic Eye takes training.


Helps to be a mutant as well! It usually takes me less than 3-5 seconds to see the image in those, but then I "cheat".
____________________________
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#18 Mar 11 2013 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
Everyone's Oiran
Avatar
*****
15,923 posts
I've cut waaay back on my cinema outings in the past few years. But of the few 3-D movies I've seen, Avatar was beyond outstanding (heh). I went back 3 times to see it in 3-D because it was SO immersive and visually gorgeous.

I've read that 3-D movies are usually better when the 3-D is used as if the cinema screen is a stage proscenium arch that the action stays behind. Rather than when the 3-D is used to push images out of the screen into the audience.
____________________________
<3

http://www.reddit.com/r/Forum4/
#19 Mar 11 2013 at 10:01 PM Rating: Good
***
2,200 posts
I have glasses and farsighted. I always find the glasses fit uncomfortably over my glasses and make my eyes water, like they are being strained. I don't get nausea or headaches, usually but I have to keep taking off both sets of glasses to wipe the water of and let my eyes adjust. Which means I miss stuff that happens, not a an of them.

As for the movie Im going to see it Weds night cause the missus and I have nothing better to do. I want to see it in 3D because everyone is raving about it being great but meh.

I wish I could force myself to wear contacts some times, but Im weird in the fact as my eyes just seem overly sensitive, I have issues even trying to put eye drops in, my eye doc hates it because I have to keep backing away from the microscope when they are checking my eyes, and the idea of corrective surgery is right out.

____________________________
What I Play
Recently Played
#20 Mar 12 2013 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
16,065 posts
Aripyanfar wrote:
I've cut waaay back on my cinema outings in the past few years. But of the few 3-D movies I've seen, Avatar was beyond outstanding (heh). I went back 3 times to see it in 3-D because it was SO immersive and visually gorgeous.

My theater was in the process of installing it's 3-D screens when Avatar was released. I saw it in the theater but not a 3-D theater. Smiley: frown
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#21 Mar 12 2013 at 7:37 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Smasharoo wrote:
Same. Weird coincidence. Are you also farsighted?

Nearsighted. Like a mole. I can't read my computer screen any more without glasses these days.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#22 Mar 13 2013 at 5:54 AM Rating: Decent
Lunatic
******
29,431 posts

Nearsighted. Like a mole. I can't read my computer screen any more without glasses these days.


Me either, unless it's about 20 yards away. Unless I concentrate consciously, my normal resting focus is so far away that looking at anything close to me for more than a few minutes results in double vision and headaches. So, technology to simulate something being in my face isn't a good time for me, or, it turns out very effective at all.
____________________________
Disclaimer:

To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? ***. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#23 Mar 14 2013 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
Ghost in the Machine
Avatar
******
36,133 posts
I'm steering clear of "3D" movies until they find a way to make those glasses not completely uncomfortable and inefficient. The day I can watch a movie in "3D" without plastic glasses that look like something out of the 80's, I'll consider paying extra money for the ticket.

Don't even get me started on "4D" movies. Live special effects are not a spatial dimension. Smiley: motz
____________________________
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#24 Mar 14 2013 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
******
43,937 posts
I'm steering clear of 3D because I don't feel it adds enough to the movie to justify the dollar or two extra ticket price.

This thread makes me almost feel bad about having 20/10 vision.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#25 Mar 14 2013 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
***
2,200 posts
So I went and Saw Oz yesterday, in 3D, because my Theater only had it in 3D. I have to agree the Still had the same issues of eyes watering no matter how I had the glasses, aligned with my glasses. Same as always.

The Movie itself was good. Really predictable, but most family movies are, and I did like the world and felt it was decently acted.

I will have to admit thou the 3D used in the movie is well above the 3D i was used to seeing. Particularly the opening sequence(First 15 minutes), and stuff like the snow scene. If I didnt have so many issues with the technology personally I would say the 3D would be THE way to see it.

I've never read the Oz series and the movie made me want to dig a bit deeper, unfortunately I'm not sure how much the movie was based off any of the books.
____________________________
What I Play
Recently Played
#26 Mar 15 2013 at 12:03 AM Rating: Good
Tracer Bullet
*****
12,578 posts

I avoid anything in 3D. I did see Oz in 2D. It was...not good. Mediocre, I suppose.
____________________________
Na Zdrowie
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 28 All times are in CDT
Karlina, Anonymous Guests (27)