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#1 Mar 09 2013 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
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NBC on April 4th. I've always wanted to see Hannibal before he was caught (and not as a teen slaughtering Nazi soldiers).

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#2 Mar 10 2013 at 4:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looks promising. As a big Mads Mikkelsen fan I will definitely look into this. Thanks for posting. :)
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#3 Apr 12 2013 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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So far, lots of graphic imagery. I'm reminded of MPD Psycho.

In episode 2 - A killer buries people in comas in a fertilizer of hardwood and sh*t, feeds them via IVs, and uses their living bodies to grow mushrooms.
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#4 Apr 12 2013 at 6:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm really liking this. It's creepy, kinda gross and suspensful. It's weird at moments, but that's another thing I like about it.

And now, having said this, it'll get canceled. Smiley: motz
#5 Apr 13 2013 at 6:46 AM Rating: Good
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At least it doesn't feel like just a cookie cutter serial killer TV show.
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#6 Apr 16 2013 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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At least it doesn't feel like just a cookie cutter serial killer TV show.


Definitely. I'm loving it. The acting is wonderful, too.
#7 Apr 16 2013 at 3:16 AM Rating: Good
I watched Valhalla Rising with the guy who plays Hannibal the other day, as I'm on a bit of a Viking kick. While he was pretty good in it, although silent all the time, it was an incredibly boring movie. While I didn't hate the ending & I certainly don't need there to be happy ones, I don't see how the sacrifice at the end would have actually saved the kid it was meant too.

Hannibal's cool, though.
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#8 Apr 19 2013 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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Here in the US, we'll miss an episode.

Apparently children being brainwashed to kill is too much in the wake of the bombing. But not dead people having their backs flayed open and strung up to appear as Angels, that's OK.

Edited, Apr 19th 2013 9:32pm by TirithRR
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#9 Apr 20 2013 at 7:27 AM Rating: Good
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Well, it'll still be shown outside the US so I'll just be downloading it, I guess.
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#10 Apr 25 2013 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
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If you want to watch the "Webisodes" of "Ceuf" before tonight's fifth episode you can see them online. Google's first hit is this site

If you watch the first clip, Executive Producer Bryan Fuller pretty much says "Go download this episode and watch it." Otherwise you can watch the short clips which detail the overall story happenings between Hannibal and Abigail Hobbs, while I assume removing the episode's story of children who are kidnapped and then brainwashed to kill their original families.

I'm going to hold off until I find a source for the full episode. If only because I hate being told by people airing content on TV that "X episode is too graphic for you to watch, so we decided not to let you watch it through the normal method."

At least I have Elementary to watch instead of Hannibal tonight while I wait for the real fourth episode.
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#11 Apr 26 2013 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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From another site's forum, so I don't know how accurate it is:
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"Ceuf" isn't airing on AXN Asia until next Tuesday (4/30)
It won't air on AXN Latin America until Wednesday May 8
The series doesn't premiere in the UK until May 7th
So it looks like there will be a bit of a wait until the full episode is out there.

Edit: Wiki shows an April 26 air date in India.

Edited, Apr 26th 2013 4:08pm by Spoonless
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#12 Apr 28 2013 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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I *think* it is available. Not 100% sure since it's kind of slow getting it, but I should be able to tell tonight.
Edit: Everything I can see points to it being legit.

On a positive note, I went to my cable company Friday and was able to get another DVR deal. I had one DVR and three HD boxes, got the four DVR deal and my bill is 10 dollars cheaper than it was before. And for some reason EPIX is on my list now (probably a free preview weekend, but I didn't hear anything) so I watched Hunger Games, Cabin in the Woods, Super 8, and the Adventures of Tintin. Thinking of watching Hugo too.

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Confirmed legit. Korean subtitles and this AXN network has advertisements all over the screen and various Facebook pop ups throughout. Logos in upper left and upper right. But at least it's real.

Edited, Apr 28th 2013 6:40pm by TirithRR
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#13 Apr 28 2013 at 6:30 PM Rating: Good
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Neat. I'll have to check it out.
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#14 Apr 29 2013 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Smiley: lol Molly Shannon had all of 5 minutes of screen time.

Anyway, I didn't think that was so bad as to warrant being pulled. I could see maybe if it was supposed to air after the Sandy Hook shooting or something.
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#15 Apr 29 2013 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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Smiley: lol Molly Shannon had all of 5 minutes of screen time.

Anyway, I didn't think that was so bad as to warrant being pulled. I could see maybe if it was supposed to air after the Sandy Hook shooting or something.


In the end it showed two little girls dead, closeup, then a couple of dead kids from a far and one burned beyond recognition body of a child. Don't think it ever showed a kid pull the trigger. And the only kid that was killed by the FBI was the 15+ year old older "brother" who was kind of the leader. And Molly died. Not really much in terms of questionable content. Pretty sure Law and Order SVU shows more gruesome shots of dead and horribly abused children.

While there wasn't a lot of the story entwined with the sub plot of this episode, but some similarities were drawn between Graham and the little boy, and when Jack talks to the boy in the police car afterward, it makes him want to decide to have children. I didn't watch the webisodes so I don't know how they handled those two things without bringing the children into it.
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#16 Apr 29 2013 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
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I watched Valhalla Rising with the guy who plays Hannibal the other day, as I'm on a bit of a Viking kick. While he was pretty good in it, although silent all the time, it was an incredibly boring movie. While I didn't hate the ending & I certainly don't need there to be happy ones, I don't see how the sacrifice at the end would have actually saved the kid it was meant too.

Hannibal's cool, though.


Valhalla Rising was a weird movie. Didn't come as a shock to me, though, knowing who directed it.

Mads Mikkelsen is the closest thing you come to a superstar here in Denmark. Ever since Casino Royale, people have been drooling over him uncontrollably. Been meaning to watch an episode or two of Hannibal, but his thick Danish accent just makes me cringe.

Oh god, just found a clip on YouTube. Yeah, no, that accent totally ruins it for me. Can't stop twitching.
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Valhalla Rising was a weird movie. Didn't come as a shock to me, though, knowing who directed it.

Mads Mikkelsen is the closest thing you come to a superstar here in Denmark. Ever since Casino Royale, people have been drooling over him uncontrollably. Been meaning to watch an episode or two of Hannibal, but his thick Danish accent just makes me cringe.

Oh god, just found a clip on YouTube. Yeah, no, that accent totally ruins it for me. Can't stop twitching.


While it was a weird movie I liked it. I probably won't watch it again but it definitely was memorable. In a weird way. The movie with Mikkelsen I liked the most so far is "Adams æbler". I don't think humor can get any darker.

Shouldn't you be accustomed to this accent? Smiley: lol
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#18 Apr 30 2013 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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If you enjoyed Adam's Apples, you should watch Flickering Lights (Blinkende Lygter). It's the same type of movie (same director) and a lot of the actors from Adam's Apples star in it as well, including Mads Mikkelsen.

And yeah, I'm accustomed to the Danish accent, but it sounds horrible to me. Actors should be able to fake a better English pronunciation than that.

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jaime Lannister in Game of Thrones) does it very well - notice the difference in his accent when he's playing a character and when he's just speaking ad lib.

Ulrich Thomsen (Adam in Adam's Apples) has a slight accent on-screen, but nothing like Mads's accent.

Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn in The Lord of the Rings), for crying out loud... although he's lived in the US for some years now.

But I get it. It's @#%^ing hard for us to drop the accent (which is why even Viggo has one). Danish is a very "flat" language, and a lot of your sounds are so similar to our sounds that we tend to slip up and use our pronunciation instead of yours. And the 'th'/'thr' sound is just brutal. We never use that sound - ever. We don't roll on our 'r's, which makes 'three' virtually impossible to pronounce for most of us, and our 'th' sound is a soft 'd', and your 'at' is pronounced differently than our 'at', but people tend to use the pronunciation they're familiar with.

You should hear me speak English; my accent is just as bad. Pretty big vocabulary, but my pronunciation sucks balls.

Still, it creeps me out when I hear it in movies and series. Especially when the actor isn't supposed to play someone who is Danish. Lecter is Lithuanian, right? Le Chiffre was Albanian or something. Not that Albanian and Lithuanian accents sound anything like the Danish accent, but whatever.

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#19 Apr 30 2013 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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I have a hard time understanding Mads at times during his speeches in the series. The accent makes it hard for me to hear what he's actually trying to say.

I'm not familiar with the accents, how they should sound, etc. But just so I get this clear, your problem with his speech isn't that his accent sounds fake, but that it's too close to his real way of speaking and doesn't match the character he should be playing?
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For a primarily American audience, I don't think he really needs to adjust his accent. Yes, he's supposed to be Lithuanian, but pretty much any non-UK European accent is going to work. I can see how it would be somewhat of an issue if you're Danish yourself, but having him approximate a Lithuanian accent while speaking English seems a bit much. Having him speak without an accent takes away from the intended effect of the character. The foreign accent reinforces the strangeness of his character.
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But just so I get this clear, your problem with his speech isn't that his accent sounds fake, but that it's too close to his real way of speaking and doesn't match the character he should be playing?


Yes, essentially.

I don't mind accents. I find some accents to be downright sexy, but the Danish accent has got to be the most unflattering one out there. There's not an ounce of sex in it.
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I don't mind accents. I find some accents to be downright sexy, but the Danish accent has got to be the most unflattering one out there. There's not an ounce of sex in it.


I'm pretty much in the same boat except my gripe is with the German accent when we try to speak English. Maybe that's the same phenomenon that causes many of us to hate hearing our own voice. To be more of a critic/hater when it comes to our own quirks.
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Oh, right, I thought you were American. Smiley: lol Keep forgetting I'm not the only foreigner here.

By the way, you grisly Mads-as-psycho lovers... you should watch this (Danish with English subtitles).



Quick recap: Two butchers are having trouble making a living, until they start selling human meat by accident which everyone in town loves. Success picks up, but they're running out of meat fast, so they go about acquiring some more. It's a comedy in the same genre as Adam's Apples. Grisly, dark and awkward at times. Also, Mads Mikkelsen has a killer haircut.

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I'm not sure if I've ever seen a show on network television quite this graphic.

It really struck me when I had to download and watch the unaired episode from that AXN channel. One of the first things I noticed were a lot of the graphic gore scenes being blurred. A scene where Abigail Hobbs is being held with a knife to the throat, as the knife slices her throat and she is thrown away, the blade and neck are blurred and you can't see anything. Then in the preview of the episode where the guy cut the backs and made angels, the backs were blurred, you saw very little detail, just a red/white blurry patch. On the US Channel, everything was very detailed, ribs visible, etc. Tonight's episode it showed the neurologist with his cheeks cut open and his jaw hinged back 180 degrees, tongue and throat visible.

I guess I never realized how shocking some of this stuff must be to countries that censor gore and violence as opposed to the nudity in the US.
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#25 Jun 04 2013 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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It's funny that we can show the insides of a body spilling out all over the place, but can't show the outside of the body, perfectly intact.
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People much wiser than I have said "I'd rather have my son watch a film with two people making love than two people trying to kill one another"...
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Well that doesn't narrow the field.

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They pretty much don't censor anything here. A private clinic is running an advertisement campaign for their breast enhancement offers. There are posters on the buses showing a set of boobs. I enjoy it every day to and from work.

Some of our bus advertisement is really great: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsvelaVwuu1qfktic.jpg
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Some of our bus advertisement is really great: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsvelaVwuu1qfktic.jpg


I'm confused, did you move to Australia?
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Silly goose.
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There was a very noticeable mistake in tonight's episode.

About half way through, they show a rear view of the doctor who had his tongue cut out and hung out of his throat. You could just see the side of his face, and Will and Jack are talking. The dead man blinks. It's very noticeable since his face is almost centered on the screen, even if blurred from perspective. His eye lash just move up/down. At first I thought he was supposed to still be alive, and was wondering why paramedics weren't doing anything, everyone was just standing back snapping pictures.
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#34 Jun 23 2013 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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Season's over. I like Mads as Hannibal. Not sure about you guys.
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