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#1 Jun 23 2012 at 10:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like Pixar is going to get another winning opening weekend, although it will probably not set any records.

I want to go see it, but I don't want a migraine, and there is no such thing as a "low volume movie theater." I Googled it and everything. Smiley: frown As always, I'll have to wait for the Redbox release.

Anyone get a chance to watch it yet, or have plans?

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#2 Jun 23 2012 at 10:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Going tomorrow. :D I'll let you know how awesome it is.
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Saw it Friday. It wasn't bad, but don't expect to be overly surprised at twists and turns.
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Saw it earlier and I really liked it. Nothing special or unexpected story wise (standard Disney formula), but it had a really good feel and atmosphere, and the animation was absolutely incredible.

The La Luna short was fun too.
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#5 Jun 25 2012 at 12:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Karlina wrote:
Nothing special or unexpected story wise (standard Disney formula).


That's not true. This is the first Disney princess movie where the princess doesn't end up with a prince. Which I personally found quite refreshing and think it makes it an excellent heroine for young girls to look up to.

It was beautifully done. Makes me want to visit Scotland or just go back to Ireland forever and ever.
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Belkira wrote:
Karlina wrote:
Nothing special or unexpected story wise (standard Disney formula).


That's not true. This is the first Disney princess movie where the princess doesn't end up with a prince. Which I personally found quite refreshing and think it makes it an excellent heroine for young girls to look up to.

It was beautifully done. Makes me want to visit Scotland or just go back to Ireland forever and ever.


Mulan didn't end up marrying a prince, did she? Or Pocahontas, I think. And Jasmine...

I guess Mulan and Pocahontas probably don't fit the "princess" stereo type, but Mulan was included in the Disney princess stuff dealing with Kingdom Hearts, right? I think Jasmine fits the "strong female role not gushing over a handsome prince to rule her kingdom" pretty well...

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They all had a prince figure in them, though. Disney played fast and loose with the John Smith character, having her sort of end up with him, and then had to do an "oh shi-" with the sequel where she married the historically correct John, John Rolfe.

Jasmine definitely ended up marrying Aladdin.

And I could have sworn Mulan married the prince-general dude, but I only saw that movie once.
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I guess Mulan and Pocahontas probably don't fit the "princess" stereo type, but Mulan was included in the Disney princess stuff dealing with Kingdom Hearts, right? I think Jasmine fits the "strong female role not gushing over a handsome prince to rule her kingdom" pretty well...

Edited, Jun 25th 2012 6:11pm by TirithRR


The only difference is she falls for a beggar, not a prince. By the end her father allows her to marry outside her class, which was the main thing that was holding her back from marrying him. Otherwise it is the same basic Disney plot.

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And I could have sworn Mulan married the prince-general dude, but I only saw that movie once.


Aye, she did.

Edit 2: It should also be noted with Mulan that she was deemed unsuited for marriage early in the movie and by the end there was a guy that fell in love with her and was starting to go through the whole traditional relationship process.

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What everyone else said. While almos every Disney princess has been a strong female lead, the movies have ended with the princess finding her "true love." Merida doesn't need a man, and I like that about this movie.

My husband and I were talking about the traditional female "happy ending" in movies recently. It seems that the female lead either ends up with the guy or a kid and that is what should (and does) make her happy. That's sort of a mind @#%^ to half of the population, though. It's nice to see Disney, of all the companies out there, bucking that trend with a princess movie.

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How long till the next Disney princess finds her one true princess?
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#11 Jun 25 2012 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
How long till the next Disney princess finds her one true princess?


According to Google it already happened.

And it was hot.
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
How long till the next Disney princess finds her one true princess?


I agree, when does WALL-E 2 come out?
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Belkira wrote:
Which I personally found quite refreshing and think it makes it an excellent heroine for young girls to look up to.
She put lives in danger when she humiliated the princes which almost started a war between the clans and poisoned her mother with a magic potion to try to get her way.
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Belkira wrote:
Which I personally found quite refreshing and think it makes it an excellent heroine for young girls to look up to.
She put lives in danger when she humiliated the princes which almost started a war between the clans and poisoned her mother with a magic potion to try to get her way.


But, she's shooting for her own hand!
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lolgaxe wrote:
Belkira wrote:
Which I personally found quite refreshing and think it makes it an excellent heroine for young girls to look up to.
She put lives in danger when she humiliated the princes which almost started a war between the clans and poisoned her mother with a magic potion to try to get her way.


Well, sure, if you want to put it THAT way. But, really, what girl nowadays HASN'T done those things?

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Belkira wrote:
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Belkira wrote:
Which I personally found quite refreshing and think it makes it an excellent heroine for young girls to look up to.
She put lives in danger when she humiliated the princes which almost started a war between the clans and poisoned her mother with a magic potion to try to get her way.


Well, sure, if you want to put it THAT way. But, really, what girl nowadays HASN'T done those things?



All my female cousins' plots to eliminate their mothers didn't use magic potions. They went the manual way.
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Seduce them, then kill them mid-coitus with an ice pick?
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Seduce them, then kill them mid-coitus with an ice pick?


Either I'm not catching a reference there, or you have one strange imagination...
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You didn't specify what manual was, so I decided it was Basic Instinct with a Japanese twist.

Edit: Whoops, wrong movie.

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catwho wrote:
And I could have sworn Mulan married the prince-general dude, but I only saw that movie once.


Thought it was in the second movie she got married. But I've only seen them in bits and pieces on TV.

But I took Belkira's comment as a literal prince (since the big ones were always Prince Charming, right?) But I guess if we're going with it being any male character the female lead meets and ends up liking or marrying for any reason... ya.
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Well, not all the "princesses" are actual princesses, either. Tiana from the bayou was just a normal girl turned into frog. Belle was the daughter of a tinkerer. Esmerelda, who by all canon rights should have died by the end of her movie, was a Gypsy. Mulan was a conscript in the army. I'd say only about half the princesses are actually royalty from anything besides marriage.
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catwho wrote:
I want to go see it, but I don't want a migraine, and there is no such thing as a "low volume movie theater."
Why don't you invest in some musician's earplugs?
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Yeah. "Princess" has come to refer to the female lead even if they're not actually royalty. Same with the "Prince" not having to be real royalty.

http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/The-Non-Princess-Club-24089377
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#24 Jun 27 2012 at 6:58 PM Rating: Good
To be honest, I was expecting a lot better than the movie was. I found the music to be pretty jarring in places, and as has been mentioned before, saw the plot coming a mile off. The one thing that bugged the crap out of me was near the end where they're fighting Mordu in the standing stones, bear!Elinor beats Mordu against the stone cracking it, before she's swatted off and Mordu starts advancing on Merida, who, and this is the part that just bugs me, flails there. Then the stone falls on Mordu. Pretty damned anticlimactic. I'd have much preferred her seeing the crack, and in a flash of insight shooting past Mordu and hitting it, bringing down the stone. Would have been such a more fulfilling ending where the heroine actually does something to finish off the villain instead of letting Deus ex Machina/her mother do it

But that's just my rant. Still worth going to see.
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I want to go see it, but I don't want a migraine, and there is no such thing as a "low volume movie theater."
Why don't you invest in some musician's earplugs?


I've been thinking about it, but they're pricey, and regular cheap earplugs distort the sound so much I know what an audiophile feels like listening to $2 headphones.
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To be honest, I was expecting a lot better than the movie was. I found the music to be pretty jarring in places, and as has been mentioned before, saw the plot coming a mile off. The one thing that bugged the crap out of me was near the end where they're fighting Mordu in the standing stones, bear!Elinor beats Mordu against the stone cracking it, before she's swatted off and Mordu starts advancing on Merida, who, and this is the part that just bugs me, flails there. Then the stone falls on Mordu. Pretty damned anticlimactic. I'd have much preferred her seeing the crack, and in a flash of insight shooting past Mordu and hitting it, bringing down the stone. Would have been such a more fulfilling ending where the heroine actually does something to finish off the villain instead of letting Deus ex Machina/her mother do it

But that's just my rant. Still worth going to see.


The whole point of the movie is that her mother, who she wanted to change, was always there for her, protecting her, and helping her. Even after Merida did something so horrible as to get a spelled pastry to turn her mother into a bear, she was still there, trying to protect her. To me, it makes sense that it was her mother who saved her, cementing home to Merida that her mother has always had her back, which helps her reverse the curse.
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Belkira wrote:
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To be honest, I was expecting a lot better than the movie was. I found the music to be pretty jarring in places, and as has been mentioned before, saw the plot coming a mile off. The one thing that bugged the crap out of me was near the end where they're fighting Mordu in the standing stones, bear!Elinor beats Mordu against the stone cracking it, before she's swatted off and Mordu starts advancing on Merida, who, and this is the part that just bugs me, flails there. Then the stone falls on Mordu. Pretty damned anticlimactic. I'd have much preferred her seeing the crack, and in a flash of insight shooting past Mordu and hitting it, bringing down the stone. Would have been such a more fulfilling ending where the heroine actually does something to finish off the villain instead of letting Deus ex Machina/her mother do it

But that's just my rant. Still worth going to see.


The whole point of the movie is that her mother, who she wanted to change, was always there for her, protecting her, and helping her. Even after Merida did something so horrible as to get a spelled pastry to turn her mother into a bear, she was still there, trying to protect her. To me, it makes sense that it was her mother who saved her, cementing home to Merida that her mother has always had her back, which helps her reverse the curse.

Without the context of having seen the movie, since I rarely go to the theatres, and disney-pixar is not the area of the people I go with when I do, so I won't see this til it's on TV, that doesn't sound horrible, that sounds hysterical. Eat Pastry. Become Bear. Hilarity ensues.
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So I found a reasonably priced pair of decibel reducing earplugs on Amazon, and I'm going to give them a shot.

The custom molded DJ ones cost $1000 Smiley: glare
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I like the ER20's, personally. They're usually around $10-12 so when I inevitably lose a pair it's not too expensive to replace them.
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