yea im sure it was shown on many stations. And this movie could be under the "What if" comics Marvel has down with characters (few key changes = same but different story).
And yes to the transformation, i took it his parents may have used him/set him up to be something great and the spider bite advanced that.
yea im sure it was shown on many stations. And this movie could be under the "What if" comics Marvel has down with characters (few key changes = same but different story).
And yes to the transformation, i took it his parents may have used him/set him up to be something great and the spider bite advanced that.
So you're thinking the scene with very young peter was maybe his parents doing the deal? Again, I'm not too familiar with the universe in general, so I'm not too sure what comic book canon says about his parents.
yea im sure it was shown on many stations. And this movie could be under the "What if" comics Marvel has down with characters (few key changes = same but different story).
And yes to the transformation, i took it his parents may have used him/set him up to be something great and the spider bite advanced that.
So you're thinking the scene with very young peter was maybe his parents doing the deal? Again, I'm not too familiar with the universe in general, so I'm not too sure what comic book canon says about his parents.
If I remember correctly his parents were spies for the U.S. Government, and they were caught while spying on the Soviet Union and executed.
"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
As far as the story goes, it's like Shaow said. Spies for the US, caught in the Soviet Union, and then involved as part of an annoying clone storyline that, even after decades still haunts readers by rearing it's ugly head.
I think the only way I will be able to enjoy this is if I treat it as a "What If" alternate reality type movie. Guess time will tell. Not that there's a lot of information to go by, but what little there is doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. I mean, there is a storyline where it's said that Peter's powers weren't accidental at all, but that didn't involve his parents at all. Though, that was probably one of the best storylines pretty much ever, and I'd absolutely love to see the JMS books made into a movie or cartoon if only for references to Slappy the Spider Fairy.
but yeah, this doesn't sound like any of that. So I guess we're all in agreement to "Completely Alternative Reality Retelling."
Also, there seems to be a Spider-man cartoon on Sundays that I wasn't aware of until yesterday when my daughter decided it'd be funny to run around with the remote and press buttons. The ten minutes I saw were pretty good.
Edited, May 14th 2012 11:46pm by lolgaxe
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Also, there seems to be a Spider-man cartoon on Sundays that I wasn't aware of until yesterday when my daughter decided it'd be funny to run around with the remote and press buttons. The ten minutes I saw were pretty good.
The new one with SHIELD? Comes on Sunday mornings along with The Avengers cartoon. I saw one episode of it, wasn't all that interested. I don't much care for the pause, self narrate, etc. thing they got going on. Just a tad annoying to me. I've seen bits and pieces of other episodes as I channel surf in the mornings.
I'd absolutely love to see the JMS books made into a movie or cartoon if only for references to Slappy the Spider Fairy.
Did you forget about the Gwen/Norman love twins? Or "The Other"?
(Morlun/Ezekial was cool, though.
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"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
If he turns out to be as big of a smartass as they showed in the preview before the Avengers though the movie I'll be happier then I was with the first. Also there is no Spiderman 3, it didn't happen lalalalalalala I can't hear you.
If he turns out to be as big of a smartass as they showed in the preview before the Avengers though the movie I'll be happier then I was with the first. Also there is no Spiderman 3, it didn't happen lalalalalalala I can't hear you.
This Peter is suppose to be more of the smartass version.
I wanted to see it last night, but it's such an odd release day to begin with that it just wasn't feasible.
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I'll just edit in my opinion.
It was a good movie, but not quite up to The Avengers. Martin Sheen is a great Uncle Ben, and Denis Leary is a great George Stacy. Sally Field was okay as Aunt May, but I just didn't feel it. Emma Stone was a hottie, but I guess that wasn't a surprise to anyone. What probably won't be said, but really should, was Chris Zylka as Eugene "Flash" Thompson. He was really well done in the movie. He was a ****, but completely human. He probably had a total of seven minutes airtime the whole movie, but was still really well done. Kudos to that little detail. Also, a scene right before the conclusion I swear the one construction worker was the same guy that said "You mess with him, you mess with the rest of us!" in the first Toby-Spidy movie. That and the Lizard wearing a lab coat were nice little Easter eggs I noticed.
Anyway, really good at showing the major theme of a Spider-Man story, the whole responsibility thing. I did like they didn't bash you over the head with the cliche line you'd expect to hear, at least not exactly. I'll always like the original story, but the whole Cross-Species aspect wasn't so bad and really opened up the possibilities for sequels, and the game kind of touched on the subject. Not a bad relook at the rogue's gallery while keeping the origin pretty close to the source material. Favorite scene would be just before the final fight scene with the construction workers.
When Peter fell through the roof, I kept expecting to see Matt Murdock.
Oh, and another award winning performance by Stan Lee.
Edited, Jul 3rd 2012 11:16pm by lolgaxe
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just got home from seeing it (yay 10:15p start time! its like 1:30a now). I liked it. It seems like it could be it's own Universe (that thing marvel is good at doing).
But at the end, who was the guy in the shadow?
Did you all get a cool pin? Maybe it was AMC only, but I now have a nice little spider-man logo pin :D
My money is either Electro, considering he appears and disappears in a flash of lightning, or Norman Osborne and the lightning was just coincidence (okay, coincidence was the wrong word) there to set the "spooky evil person" mood.
And I didn't get a pin.
Edited, Jul 4th 2012 9:32am by lolgaxe
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George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I thought it was incredible, really not understanding why people are hating on it? People REALLY like the old films that much?
I thought it was neat when: Dr. Connors first outing at the Lizard was to stop the OSCORP representative taking the Lizard DNA serum to a veteran's hospital for human testing. Connors sees what has gone wrong as he is transforming and goes after him to stop him.
Best Fight: Peter/Spider-Man vs Lizard in Midtown High. Hilarious cameo from Stan Lee aside the way Spider-Man dodged and fought Connors here was great, I really liked the part where Spider-Man is literally crawling all over Connor's huge frame webbing him up. It really showed just how agile Spider-Man is.
Best Character Moment: Right after Uncle Ben was murdered, Peter slumps in the corner of his room and goes to pieces as he listens to part of the voice mail Ben left him after their argument. Really like how it adds impact to what has just happened and how Peter brings himself to listen to the entire message at the end of the film, possibly symbolizing that he is almost ready to move on. Peter's argument with George Stacey during dinner I felt was a pivotal moment that ultimately makes Peter realize he is wasting his abilities on a personal vendetta.
Most Unexpected Moment: That's a hell of a way to tell your girlfriend you're really a superhero... Gwen's reaction is hilarious and had the audience laughing.
Best Line: Spider-Man breaking the fourth wall when asked who he is; "Nobody seems to grasp the concept of the mask!"
I saw the movie aturday afternoon and was very happy I did. I liked the sarcastic Parker in this movie much better than the goofy boy next door (literally, right?) that Toby played in his first Spidey movie. I thought the fight scenes were much better done than in the previous Spidey movies and they really showed off Spider-Man's agility in a way that you didn't get in Toby's movies, except maybe a bit when fighting Doc Ock in 2 (on the building when rescuing Aunt May) and the Sandman in the movie that wasn't made.
I agree with all of the casting except for Sally Field as Aunt May. I was constantly afraid the movie was going to devolve into a Lifetime Original everytime she got emotional.
Overall my ranking of the 4 (3!) movies is as follows:
The Amazing Spider-Man = Spiderman 2 > Spiderman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wait, what was I saying?