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#1 Oct 23 2011 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
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Just watched "Once Upon a Time" on ABC. not too bad, if you like fairy tales. The plot is interesting. Anyone else watching?

I also have Grimm set up to tape. I have less hope for that one.
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Gah, I knew there was something else that was starting on Sundays other than Walking Dead. I made a mental note, and it got erased due to playing video games...
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#3 Oct 23 2011 at 10:08 PM Rating: Good
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I heard about this for the first time on the radio earlier today. I don't have cable, otherwise I'd consider checking it out.
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I also have Grimm set up to tape. I have less hope for that one.
I keep forgetting to set that one to record. It'll probably be bad, but it does have potential.
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Is it anything like Tenth Kingdom? I enjoyed the miniseries quite a bit.
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Whichever one is combining fairy tales with NCIS/CSI/SVU/Random Forensics Acronym show makes me want to kill a TV writer.

I mean, really? Really??
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Whichever one is combining fairy tales with NCIS/CSI/SVU/Random Forensics Acronym show makes me want to kill a TV writer.

I mean, really? Really??


I think that's Grim. Where the guy is some sort of special "Grim" who can see/understand all the mystical stuff.

I caught the first episode of Once Upon a Time today on Demand. Seems interesting. I'll probably keep an eye on it. I thought Rumpelstiltskin kind of looked like Rush from SGU. Then later in the episode, without all the costume makeup on, it definitely was him.
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#9 Oct 28 2011 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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Raising kids was a great excuse to indulge in fairy tales.

I watched Once Upon a Time. We'll have to see where it goes. I thought '28' was a weird age for Emma to come back except that it provides a decade for an annoying kid to grow up and ignite the whole story.


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I don't have cable, otherwise I'd consider checking it out.
It's on ABC.
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Grimm aired today (last night, I guess). Seemed decent as well. Has a Haven feel to it. FBI guy thrown into a supernatural world by connections to his past he didn't know about. It's a male version of Audrey Parker.
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Grimm seems ok after the first episode. Worth giving a shot. Never heard of the other one.
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#12 Oct 30 2011 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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Grimm seems ok after the first episode. Worth giving a shot. Never heard of the other one.


Yeah, just watched it last night. I was wary when I heard the premise, but it turned out pretty good. And the ending got me hooked, I think. Smiley: lol
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I think I recorded it. I'll have to check and see.
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I just watched the second episode of Once Upon a Time. I haven't been able to watch them when they actually come on, so I stick to On Demand.

Some things seem a bit lame to me (like a lot of the Dialogue between the characters), but then overall it's interesting enough to keep me wanting to watch.

It seems that Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin was immune to the curse (because he made it) and remembers everything, including the deal the Witch made with him. And it seems like he is going to be a good guy, which is odd from his usual portrayal. Of course he could be bad, but just using Emma for his own ends (probably). I can't imagine him wanting to go back to being locked in a jail under the castle. The Witch/Rumpelstiltskin conversation at the end of the episode was really good.
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I caught the first episode of Once Upon a Time today on Demand. Seems interesting. I'll probably keep an eye on it. I thought Rumpelstiltskin kind of looked like Rush from SGU. Then later in the episode, without all the costume makeup on, it definitely was him.

Tony Amendola plays Gepetto too. Now we just need Amanda Tapping to make a cameo as Sleeping Beauty.
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#16 Nov 08 2011 at 3:26 AM Rating: Good
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Finally watched the couple episodes of Grimm on my DVR. Have to say, I think I'm gonna enjoy this one.
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#17 Dec 06 2011 at 7:34 PM Rating: Good
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Anyone still watching Once Upon a Time? I'm liking it so far. I'm still not sure what Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin is up to though. Last episode, he helped out the Witch by getting Charming to remember his fake past. Seems he wants to keep the curse active, but be the one in power. I don't understand why he would purposefully choose Snow White's grandson for the witch to adopt if he doesn't want the curse broken though.

Grim is interesting enough. Seems to be moving kind of slow though. I haven't watched last week's episode yet. It wasn't on demand last night and there are Christmas specials of Eureka and Warehouse 13 on tonight.
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I don't think there was an episode of Grimm last week, either that or my dvr missed it.
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I dunno. I thought I saw something about "3 bad wolves" as the title. But when I went through On Demand I didn't see anything, just the last episode dealing with the smelly guy who ate frogs. I just assumed I missed the episode.
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Apparently there was an episode on Thursday at 10PM that I didn't know about. And another one right now on Friday.

What the **** are they doing?

Edit:
I need to upgrade to DVR service...

Edited, Dec 9th 2011 9:16pm by TirithRR
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#21 Dec 10 2011 at 2:12 AM Rating: Good
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Apparently there was an episode on Thursday at 10PM that I didn't know about. And another one right now on Friday.

What the **** are they doing?

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Edited, Dec 9th 2011 9:16pm by TirithRR
Assuming you're still talking about Grimm, they run it on Hulu as well since you missed it.
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#22 Dec 12 2011 at 4:05 PM Rating: Good
I've been watching both, and I definitely like Once Upon a Time better. Grim is interesting, but after two episodes I just couldn't get that into it.

It's definitely interesting to see Mr. Gold/Rumpy in action though. At first you think he's going to help end the curse, then he seems actively invested in keeping it going. He's definitely an interesting character.

Also, I love the actress who plays the mayor/witch. She's really great at the 3 dimensional acting. There are times where I hate her, and times where I actually feel pity for her. It's a nice change from your typical villain.
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I've been watching both, and I definitely like Once Upon a Time better. Grim is interesting, but after two episodes I just couldn't get that into it.

It's definitely interesting to see Mr. Gold/Rumpy in action though. At first you think he's going to help end the curse, then he seems actively invested in keeping it going. He's definitely an interesting character.

Also, I love the actress who plays the mayor/witch. She's really great at the 3 dimensional acting. There are times where I hate her, and times where I actually feel pity for her. It's a nice change from your typical villain.
Yeah, the mayor is good. I think her character will provide the pivitol moment in the story. It'll probably be something like she'll need to make a choice; she'll have to choose between killing the kid to carry out her evil plan or not killing him and getting past all her hate.
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I've been watching both, and I definitely like Once Upon a Time better. Grim is interesting, but after two episodes I just couldn't get that into it.

It's definitely interesting to see Mr. Gold/Rumpy in action though. At first you think he's going to help end the curse, then he seems actively invested in keeping it going. He's definitely an interesting character.

Also, I love the actress who plays the mayor/witch. She's really great at the 3 dimensional acting. There are times where I hate her, and times where I actually feel pity for her. It's a nice change from your typical villain.
Yeah, the mayor is good. I think her character will provide the pivitol moment in the story. It'll probably be something like she'll need to make a choice; she'll have to choose between killing the kid to carry out her evil plan or not killing him and getting past all her hate.


We'll have to find out what it is she thinks Snow White did to her, or what Snow White actually did. They've stated bits and pieces, but I don't think we know exactly what it is. In the story, wasn't her only crime being more beautiful than the Witch? I think it's a little deeper this time around, but probably not something that Snow White purposefully did.

She does really love the kid though, but only as a replacement for her father, Henry. Does it mean any less when she's just using the kid as something to put all her love for her father, and guilt for killing her father, into?


Also: Why, in a town created by and control by the Queen, does there exist a book chronicling the entirety of the Storybook world history up to and including the Witch's Curse and the Prophecy about how it will be broken? Another of Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin's doings? Or the fairies that uncovered the tree to protect the one person they could send.

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#25 Dec 13 2011 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
TirithRR wrote:

We'll have to find out what it is she thinks Snow White did to her, or what Snow White actually did. They've stated bits and pieces, but I don't think we know exactly what it is. In the story, wasn't her only crime being more beautiful than the Witch? I think it's a little deeper this time around, but probably not something that Snow White purposefully did.


Yeah, that's something I've been curious about too. I'm very eager to find out what the thing is.

Also, boo for having to wait almost an entire month until a new episode. Smiley: glare

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So I watched both of these and I gotta say, I am a much bigger fan of Once Upon a Time.

The story has a nice subtlety to it because you don't know concretely for a while if all this is actually happening or if the little boy is just seeing things. (Although to be fair if it was all in his head, I'd make for a **** ending)

Grimm on the other hand was like "I AM YOUR MOTHER, I HAVE CANCER, HERE IS A SECRECT, BLAAARGH I AM SLAIN"
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Grimm seemed more like just another detective show with a fairy-tale twist.
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#28 Dec 21 2011 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, which made the show interesting and kinda cool, but really not all that different from every other detective show out there.
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Both shows have started up again, in case anyone missed it.

I think Once Upon a Time has shown two episodes so far. One on 1/8 and one on 1/15. I watched them both On Demand today, since I didn't even realize it started on 1/8. I don't watch many shows on ABC or NBC, so I miss when these shows start up since I don't ever see ads for them on other networks. I was happy with the episodes though, but there was one little bit near the end of the last episode that confused me: Mary and Emma were talking on the bed about Emma's parents. Emma mentions Henry's crazy ideas about her parents. Mary asks what they are, and is surprised when she is told Henry thinks Snow White (Mary) is Emma's mother. Didn't this already come up between the two of them before Emma moved in with Mary? Or was that a conversation with someone else, maybe between Emma and Graham? For some reason I remember Mary being involved in the talk though... I could be (probably) wrong.

Grimm started up on Friday, with an episode featuring an Ogre. I thought it was pretty good. I do like the character Monroe. It'll be interesting to see what the next episode does with him, the preview said something about some creatures showing up with a warning for Monroe (He's getting too 'Buddy Buddy' with that Grimm). I think Grimm's overall story is definitely moving slower than Once Upon a Time, and is stuck in the "Let's make interesting things to do with the fairy tale creatures."-mode rather than "Let's explore the boss and his role in all of this."-mode.
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I liked last nights episode. Rumps gf hidden away in the mayors dungeon certainly adds an interesting twist. Smiley: grin
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I liked last nights episode. Rumps gf hidden away in the mayors dungeon certainly adds an interesting twist. Smiley: grin


The Queen and Rump finally acknowledging their knowledge of the past life makes a pretty interesting direction. I liked the twist on Beauty and the Beast.
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I liked the twist on Beauty and the Beast.


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I want to like Once upon a time, heck it's filmed in the next town over but everytime i sit down to watch it, I keep thinking this would be so much better if it was Fables by Bill Willingham.
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I'm finding Once Upon A Time is dipping slightly in my rankings, and Grimm has increased. The last few episodes of Grimm I've found really fun. It helps that the fire dancer was hot too. I think this week's episode of Grimm is the season finale?

I'm not liking Emma's character in Once Upon A Time. As a whole the series is fine, and I still want to watch it and find out what's going on, but the writing for her character just seems off. The interactions between her and the town, between the Mayor, Emma, Emma's son. The whole thing with the embezzlement scam and the Mayor was just poorly done. It all just seems wrong given her position.
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I've not been watching Grimm, but Once Upon A Time is dropping in my ratings too. It seems like they're now just attempting to stretch the storyline to get more episodes out of it.

Emma has probably been my least favorite character from the start and that's not really changed with time. Her circumstances are just so unbelievable - even for a fairytale.

It's time to finish the story.
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Monroe: When sending these guys a message...two heads are better than one. Smiley: laugh


But how did Monroe and Nick know what address to send the package to?
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Monroe: When sending these guys a message...two heads are better than one. Smiley: laugh


But how did Monroe and Nick know what address to send the package to?
I was wondering that myself.

Edit: The only satisfactory answers I can come up with are contacting the reapers isn't too difficult(something most wessen know how to do) or the reapers had something on them that led to him finding a way.


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I discovered Once Upon a Time a few weeks ago, and Grimm just a few days ago. I've just watched the one Grimm so far. I've watched maybe 14-18 Once Upon a Times. I don't mind them stretching the story. I like Emma the central character a lot. But there have been so many depressing episodes in a row I'm on a break. At the start there were rewards from the story as the curse had tiny breaks in it, like the very first flowers after snow. But at the moment the Evil Queen is just winning again and again and again with no further little rewards to balance the depressing.

They could go forever if there was just more itty bitty happy things happening along side the defeats.
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#42 May 13 2012 at 3:10 AM Rating: Good
It gets better Ari, you should start watching again. Season finale is tonight, I'm so excited! Can't wait to see what happens.
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It gets better Ari, you should start watching again. Season finale is tonight, I'm so excited! Can't wait to see what happens.


Season finale of Grimm is next week Friday. Nick tells his girlfriend the truth. I miss Monroe's girlfriend, she hasn't been in the last few episodes. I thought he would have contacted her about his bigfoot friend before Nick. Unless I missed something in the last few episodes and they had a falling out?

Once Upon a Time has become a bit more interesting. Henry eating the apple, I'm curious if they are going to keep him in a near-death coma at the end of the season, or if they are going to wake him up. I'm sure the Queen knows the secret to waking him, but being as it's magical, she probably won't have access to it in this world. If they do wake him up, I'm curious how they are going to keep Emma from believing. I don't imagine they will make her believe 100% this season. Seems like having her believe will equal the end of the story.
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I disagree Tirith. I think having her believe is the beginning of the fight to break the curse. They've specifically said over and over that Emma is the key to ending the curse, but they haven't said what she has to do to end it. Her believing is the first step, after that she has to figure out what she needs to do to break the curse. I imagine they're going to stretch the whole "true love's kiss" thing to include parental love, and make the queen choose between losing Henry forever, and giving up the curse, because obviously if she admits that the apple was poisoned, she admits that she is the queen and it'll make it that much easier for Emma to break the curse. I think only a kiss from Emma will break the poison apple spell, because Henry doesn't love the queen back, because he knows who she really is. I do believe that she loves him, but for it to be "true love" it has to go both ways. That's my theory anyways.
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I disagree Tirith. I think having her believe is the beginning of the fight to break the curse. They've specifically said over and over that Emma is the key to ending the curse, but they haven't said what she has to do to end it. Her believing is the first step, after that she has to figure out what she needs to do to break the curse. I imagine they're going to stretch the whole "true love's kiss" thing to include parental love, and make the queen choose between losing Henry forever, and giving up the curse, because obviously if she admits that the apple was poisoned, she admits that she is the queen and it'll make it that much easier for Emma to break the curse. I think only a kiss from Emma will break the poison apple spell, because Henry doesn't love the queen back, because he knows who she really is. I do believe that she loves him, but for it to be "true love" it has to go both ways. That's my theory anyways.


I don't think the Queen's love for Henry is true. She loved her father, Henry. She sacrificed him, and now her son Henry is merely something to fill that void. What she has for him may be love, but I don't think it'd count as a "true love" for the whole fairy tale curse thing, even if Henry didn't hate her.

I still don't think they'll end this season with her believing. I do think if he does wake this season, it will be Emma's doing, but I can't see her going "omg, it's all true" in this one episode. She will hate the Queen even more, but will probably just assume non-magical poisoning because the Queen hates her as well.

Of course, I think that is more logical given her current state of mind, but the writers have been known to swing her attitude and actions one way or the other to fit the whims of where they want to bring the story rather than stay with a consistent character. I still don't care for Emma's character too much. She seems to be the wild card that the writers can do anything they want with to put the story where they want it. Henry I like, and the Queen does a good job, Rump and Pinocchio are good. Emma just isn't a very well written character.
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Once Upon a Time Season Finale Spoilers:
Ok, so it proves me wrong in the first three minutes. Who could have guessed touching the book would make her a believer and the Queen would admit it all within three minutes.

Believed = Curse broken.

I really didn't expect Rump to bring magic to this world. Seems that Rumpelstiltskin's true love is still Magic, even with Belle being back. He used the essence to bring Magic to the world. I'm really not sure what to expect next season.


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#47 May 14 2012 at 1:08 AM Rating: Good
Damn, I wasn't actually expecting to be that right lol. I'm not a fan of how the curse got broken. Really? All she had to do was believe and tell Henry she loved him? That seems way too easy. Maybe killing Maleficent had something to do with it too, who knows? Even still though. I figured there'd be some trick to it. Oh well, other than that I really liked how the episode went (aside from August/Pinocchio dying. Sad face). I wasn't expecting the magic thing either. That really blew me out of the water.

Actually, maybe Emma only broke the curse half way. I figured that once the curse was broken, everyone would be back in fairy tale land, not stuck here in the real world. So maybe there is something more that has to be done for Storybrooke to turn back into the magical world. That'd be a neat plot twist. And having magic being brought into the real world, gives both Rumpy and the Queen a lot more power than they had before, which will make it even more difficult for them to get the rest of the curse broken.
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Holy crap. Nick's mom is alive.
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#49 May 19 2012 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Holy crap. Nick's mom is alive.


I was wondering when they were going to bring the blonde witch back.
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#50 May 19 2012 at 11:53 PM Rating: Good
Who's Nick?
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#51 May 20 2012 at 2:28 AM Rating: Good
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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
Who's Nick?
Ultimately unnecessary spoiler:The main character from Grimm.
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