I think current Andrea is a victim of character development. I think she will be one of the stronger characters in the future, but we have to see her growth into that role. I think at some point she will stop resenting Dale, and realize that he more or less saved her life, and will do all she can to be survive and what not.
I think current Andrea is a victim of character development. I think she will be one of the stronger characters in the future, but we have to see her growth into that role. I think at some point she will stop resenting Dale, and realize that he more or less saved her life, and will do all she can to be survive and what not.
I hope so. She's just so damn mopey and depressing. And whiny. And annoying. And she needs to admit that everyone else was right and she doesn't need a gun, haha.
Up till about 40 minutes I was so annoyed at how useless women were in this show, but Andrea is finally showing her potential. Then ten minutes later it vanished, but at least there was some attempt. Though Lori, Carol, and Maggie are doing more than their fair share of being completely worthless, though at least Carol has an excuse. Glenn is whiny and pathetic but at least he's useful to the group. Also, I just found out that the black dude's name is T-Dog. Really? But damn, that was a lot of drama in the span of an hour.
I actually missed the first airing, due to having to sort through equipment.
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Edit: I saw it coming, but it came much sooner than expected and under different circumstances and ... yeah, holy @#%^ sticks. God that's how you hook people into your show. Good job.
Edit2: Waiting for February is going to suuuuuuuuuuck.
Edit3: Damn Shane was awesome in his snapping at the end. I'd have probably had the same reaction.
Edited, Nov 27th 2011 10:08pm by lolgaxe
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George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I didn't read any of the comics/novels/what ever they call them these days. But I did not expect Sophie to be in the barn. Until they heard one more, and we were waiting for it to show itself, that's when I realized who it was likely going to be. Now the question is, Did Hershel know that little girl was the one they were looking for? And if so, why did he hide her from them, knowing that was likely the only reason they were staying.
Yeah, waiting for Feb. is really going to suck. Oddly enough, it resumes on my son's birthday. And I don't like Shane, but he did right there at the end. Hershel needs to understand just what the hell is really going on.
I think Rick being the one to step up and kill the Zombie-Sophie is going to open Hershel's eyes. With them just slaughtering all of Hershel's friends/neighbors, it was just them killing people they didn't know/care about. But when Sophie steps out of the barn, and everyone starts crying/screaming and just all around distraught, and Rick stepping forward to end Sophie's suffering, that has to mean something to Hershel. He has to realize that this group who cared so much about finding the girl, would be willing to do that to her as a zombie, has to mean that it's very likely the correct thing to do. I think it's why the previews showed Hershel kind of "snapping". He realizes that his hopes for helping/curing them were shattered.
Things on the show are starting to get just as hopeless as in the comic & Rick really hasn't even begun to get put through the ringer yet. February is a long time coming!
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"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
Good job. Way good job for cast and crew. Waiting until February will definitely suck. But I'm getting hooked on Hell on Wheels.
And Jon Bernthal deserves an Emmy and Golden Globe nomination for his portrayal as Shane. He portrayed Shane's slide into evil while hiding it and convincing himself that he's good is brilliant, just ******* brilliant.
Didn't know there was a marathon today, so I missed all but the last few minutes of the last season's episode, and it reminded me that I really like Shane. Further more, they bring in more characters and they had to be Philly guidos? Peaks and valleys, this episode wasn't as good as the last. Pretty somber, watching Hershel and Carol pretty much crashing like that was really sad, and Rick seems to be losing what little optimism he had.
And Comic Book Men, which is airing as I type this, had me rolling in laughter in the first minute.
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George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I think the ending saved the episode for me. Really glad Rick didn't cave and bring them back to the farm. My favorite part was when Daryl called Lori "Olive Oyl". Made me laugh out loud.
And here we go... the war between Shane and Rick is now official!
5$ on Carl for the kill!
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Anyone else keep thinking Carol is Jamie Lee Curtis?
Anyway, I can't stand Dale anymore. I've been waiting and waiting for his character to become interesting, and it hasn't happened yet. They removed one of the only interesting characterizations from the comics, and all that's left of him is a whiny old man who seems to only be there to remind the audience of previous plot points.
Couple of weapon based pet peeves from the last two episodes: When Rick and Glenn were driving in to town he had that damn shotgun pointed at his own head. I mean, if I were Rick I'd have slammed Glenn's face into the passenger side window for that. Also, today's episode when Hershel was basically diving for cover and part of the wooden beam exploded from a gun shot? Yeah, that was a headshot. Hershel is dead as far as I'm concerned. His head was lined up directly where the wood splintered, and it didn't stop the bullet as shown by the hole that was there.
And Lori continues to be the biggest problem for the group.
I can take zombies, I can take pretty much anything without flinching, except leg injuries. Just that whole scene had me squirming in my seat, and at the end of the sequence I had to look away. Also winced when the kid jumped and there was an audible thud.
rosleck wrote:
5$ on Carl for the kill!
No bet.
Final bit, Comic Book Men: 2/2. I was in tears laughing when Bryan Johnson was wearing the Adam West era Bat-Cowl. My wife describes it as "They've finally ran out of ideas, and now they're making shows you'd like."
Edited, Feb 19th 2012 10:38pm by lolgaxe
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George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
Shane vs. Rick. 'bout damn time, though I'd have given the edge to Shane.
That being said, when the episode started I squealed because I thought it would be The Jail, and like I keep saying that was the best storyline from the book. I'm still holding out hope for it, at least for Season 3. Speaking of season 3, they've cast David Morrissey as the Governor.
I don't see it, but then again we'll just have to wait and see. Also, the Governor means Michonne. That I can't wait for. I hope they introduce her the same way they did in the book, but with the trend of just how useful women are in the TV show she'll probably be shown running through the forest, trip on a twig and have to be saved by Daryl.
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George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Not having read the comic, should I be looking closer into Shane's comment to Rick about the lack of bite marks on the two uniformed zombies? Or should I not read anything into that? I feel he said it for a reason. It just really stuck in my mind. Overall, another solid episode.