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#27His Excellency Aethien, Posted: Jul 16 2011 at 4:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I've never been able to watch more than ~10 minutes of any Potter movie. I really don't see how people enjoy the movies.
#28 Jul 16 2011 at 4:35 PM Rating: Good
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Finally had a chance to watch it.

Favorite part:

Mcgonagall animating the golems and then suddenly saying "...I've always wanted to use that spell!"

But yeah, some of the alterations felt a bit...rushed.

#29 Jul 16 2011 at 7:46 PM Rating: Good
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-Gringotts, they don't fall off the track in the book, the multiplying cups didn't burn in the movie, there is a LOT less death mentioned in the book, including Griphook dying.
-Neville... ok, to be fair, he's pretty much the best character in the last movie. Funny, awkward, and awesome. I didn't like his speech at the end, though I don't remember if that was in the book. And in the book, he doesn't like Luna! Sigh.
-I thought Hagrid was carried away by spiders. Instead he's just tied up in the forest by Death Eaters without explanation. His brother is missing entirely.
-King's Cross wasn't bad; I think they cut a fair amount of dialogue, but kept the important bits ("Of course it's all in your head!")
-While the fight scene with Volemort was cool, it was also overly lengthy. And i don't recall Voldemort getting hit by Harry's spell, but rather their spells ricocheting and Voldemort basically hitting himself by accident. And while I enjoyed the "Not my daughter, you *****!" line (and everyone applauded in the theater), I actually felt it was poorly delivered.
-Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his in the book; he doesn't snap it in half >_<
-Ok... big personal peeve: Harry's mom Lily. Looking at the actress, I'd put her at... 40? Maybe older? She's supposed to be 21! Almost the same age as her son. Same with Harry's dad James, who looks **** near 50. Why the heck did they age their characters AFTER they died?



-Neville did give a speech in the book, and it was then that the snake attacked (if I'm remembering it right) and he beheaded it. Bu yea, he does walk forward and then tells Lord V to suck it.
-In the book Hagrid is there when Harry shows up to die.
-I actually liked the fight scene because it happens so fast in the book. Harry tells him the Wand won't work (at killing it's true master), Voldemort cast spell, it bounces back and Voldemort is dead. In the book, this all takes place with people around to see it. As I liked the fight scene in the movie, I did not like the next scene where Harry is just walking back into the building... like nothing happened.
-I don't remember what he does with the wand in the book, but I thought he got rid of it and it would now too be lost (as the stone is lost out in the woods).

As to the Age...yes we know about the age Lily died but that doesn't mean Harry himself didn't age his parents in his own head. I mean when I think of my parents I think and see them as they are now. Not their 25/27 year old selves. I know he had pics, but c'mon..it is a world of magic. His parents were never ghosts (so an actual copy of they way they were when they died).
Now if we are talking about the actors who played his parents. I'm pretty sure they are the same people who were in the 1st movie with the mirror. So they look old because..you know..that movie came out 10 years ago.

I also didn't like the epilogue in the book or film, but I'm not the author of the books. It just seems odd to me that JKR's world is just our world but with a secret magic side. Of all the Wizards and Witches..not 1 would see his/her chance to step in the shoes and be the worlds new great threat? The epilogue for me only did 2 things: Shows that Harry has a pretty normal life, and if any new stories are to follow the Potter family it will be done in Pre-Harry Potter time, or deal with his kids...and what? He just sits back and lets them deal with it? -.-


Over all it was a good movie. I hope we get great things from (the kids, now adults) peeps who played these roles.
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-Gringotts, they don't fall off the track in the book, the multiplying cups didn't burn in the movie, there is a LOT less death mentioned in the book, including Griphook dying.
-Neville... ok, to be fair, he's pretty much the best character in the last movie. Funny, awkward, and awesome. I didn't like his speech at the end, though I don't remember if that was in the book. And in the book, he doesn't like Luna! Sigh.
-I thought Hagrid was carried away by spiders. Instead he's just tied up in the forest by Death Eaters without explanation. His brother is missing entirely.
-King's Cross wasn't bad; I think they cut a fair amount of dialogue, but kept the important bits ("Of course it's all in your head!")
-While the fight scene with Volemort was cool, it was also overly lengthy. And i don't recall Voldemort getting hit by Harry's spell, but rather their spells ricocheting and Voldemort basically hitting himself by accident. And while I enjoyed the "Not my daughter, you *****!" line (and everyone applauded in the theater), I actually felt it was poorly delivered.
-Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his in the book; he doesn't snap it in half >_<
-Ok... big personal peeve: Harry's mom Lily. Looking at the actress, I'd put her at... 40? Maybe older? She's supposed to be 21! Almost the same age as her son. Same with Harry's dad James, who looks **** near 50. Why the heck did they age their characters AFTER they died?



-Neville did give a speech in the book, and it was then that the snake attacked (if I'm remembering it right) and he beheaded it. Bu yea, he does walk forward and then tells Lord V to suck it.
-In the book Hagrid is there when Harry shows up to die.
-I actually liked the fight scene because it happens so fast in the book. Harry tells him the Wand won't work (at killing it's true master), Voldemort cast spell, it bounces back and Voldemort is dead. In the book, this all takes place with people around to see it. As I liked the fight scene in the movie, I did not like the next scene where Harry is just walking back into the building... like nothing happened.
-I don't remember what he does with the wand in the book, but I thought he got rid of it and it would now too be lost (as the stone is lost out in the woods).

As to the Age...yes we know about the age Lily died but that doesn't mean Harry himself didn't age his parents in his own head. I mean when I think of my parents I think and see them as they are now. Not their 25/27 year old selves. I know he had pics, but c'mon..it is a world of magic. His parents were never ghosts (so an actual copy of they way they were when they died).
Now if we are talking about the actors who played his parents. I'm pretty sure they are the same people who were in the 1st movie with the mirror. So they look old because..you know..that movie came out 10 years ago.

I also didn't like the epilogue in the book or film, but I'm not the author of the books. It just seems odd to me that JKR's world is just our world but with a secret magic side. Of all the Wizards and Witches..not 1 would see his/her chance to step in the shoes and be the worlds new great threat? The epilogue for me only did 2 things: Shows that Harry has a pretty normal life, and if any new stories are to follow the Potter family it will be done in Pre-Harry Potter time, or deal with his kids...and what? He just sits back and lets them deal with it? -.-


Over all it was a good movie. I hope we get great things from (the kids, now adults) peeps who played these roles.



Okay, this is my last sub-10k post...

IT WOULD BE OBNOXIOUS TO SPOILER ALL OF THIS. IT CONTAINS INFO FROM THE BOOKS, AS WELL AS INFO THAT WAS GIVEN IN INTERVIEWS AFTER THE FACT.

-In the book, Hagrid is fighting but gets carried off into the forest by the Acromantulas. When Harry arrives in the forest, he is in the grove with Voldemort, tied up (and I think it's apparent that he's been tortured).
-Neville doesn't really give a speech so much as shout that they won't bow down to him. Then Voldemort attacks him. But he manages to pull Godric's Sword out of the Sorting Hat and beheads the snake. :P
-The real climax of the book is Harry walking into the forest, accepting death, and confronting Voldemort, imo. A longer fight scene would have made the climax more exciting (as the fight would have been it), but ultimately I think the book was better off this way. The story has always been about Harry, not about Harry's fight with Voldemort. Granted, that was the major sub-arc, but it would have obfuscated the real value of the books to make their final battle the climax.
-In the book, he drops the Resurrection Stone in the Forbidden Forest, and then decides to leave it there so no one will ever have to suffer because of it again. He keeps the cloak, because it was his father's (and is, by all rights, his--he is the last descendant of the wizard that created it). The Elder wand is used to repair his own wand, which is one of my favorite scenes in the series, honestly. He then decides that it should never again be used by wizards and returns it to the tomb, hoping it will lose its magic in time.
-His parents in the first movie appeared like they were in their mid to late thirties, which is the real issue. They should have been like 14-15 years younger. Same with Petunia and Vernon, for that matter--no clue why they are in their fifties when petunia should have been in her thirties in the first movie.
-I'm pretty sure the book makes it clear how his parents looked when coming out of the stone. I recall it saying all of them looked young, and Sirius had reverted back to the youthful way he was at their parents' wedding. Lupin looked healthy, etc. It was supposed to be a sign that dying really wasn't that awful, and that the worst part was the small amount of time leading up to it--the time they were going to help him through. This scene made me cry in the books. >.<

Know what I REALLY wish they had done in the movie (which I'm assuming they didn't)? Included the dedication, at least in the credits. It would need to be reworked for the movie, of course, but I still remember how I felt reading that. "The dedication of this book is split seven ways: to Neil, to Jessica, to David, to Kenzie, to Di, to Anne, and to you, if you have stuck with Harry until the very end."

HP was a huge part of my childhood, being a little bookworm with an overactive imagination. That really struck home for me.

Some other fun facts:
-JK Rowling originally intended to have Dudley seeing his son off to Hogwarts in the epilogue. But she decided against it, saying that no wizard genes could survive contact with Uncle Vernon's DNA.
-The original epilogue (which wasn't at King's Cross) was going to be a less personal look at the future of the Wizarding world, where she'd mention how Ron, Hermione, Harry, Neville, the New Ministry and everyone else all changed the wizarding world. But she decided against it, because the story was ultimately about Harry's journey through the Wizarding World, and not about the world itself. She felt the epilogue should reflect that.

-Harry and Ron both became Aurors (and Harry eventually becomes the head of the department). Hermione went back to Hogwarts to finish her 7th year, even though Kingsley Shacklebolt declared that any of Harry's classmates who missed their final year and participated in the battle were free to enter the ministry without finishing school. She worked in the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures for years, advancing the rights of non-human magical creatures (particularly Goblins, House-Elves, Mermaids and Werewolves), and totally revolutionized the way the Ministry addressed them (making the Wizarding World less about Wizards controlling everything, and more democratic). She eventually switched to the Department of Magical Law Enforcement and eliminated laws favoring Pure-Bloods.

Neville was an auror for a while before eventually becoming the Herbology teacher. He and Hannah Abbott own the Leaky Cauldron, which she runs.

Ginny becomes a professional Quidditch Player for the Holyhead Harpies. After she had her children, she became the Quidditch correspondent for the Daily Prophet.

Harry, Ron and Hermione all were featured on chocolate frog cards. Harry's son, James, stole the Marauder's Map out of his father's desk (and inherited the invisibility cloak).

Harry and Dudley managed to have something of a relationship, that generally included them meeting every so often to sit in the same room in silence for a while. They did exchange Christmas Cards though. JK Rowling has never mentioned if Harry ever saw Aunt Petunia again, but she clarified that what she wanted to say to him before leaving in the book was something like "I know what you are facing, so be careful."

George continues to manage the joke shop, and is very successful, and names his son Fred. Ron helped him out with the shop, until he could get used to running it on his own. But it was always extremely profitable.

Teddy Lupin is raised by his grandmother, but is always welcome at the Potter house (and is regularly a guest for Sunday tea). Bill and Fleur have 3 children, iirc. I can't remember if she ever mentioned what happened to Charlie Weasley.

Harry kept the Malfoys out of Azkaban (by vouching that they defected before his defeat, even though it seemed like Voldemort was definitely going to win), and although he and Draco never became friends, they ceased to be enemies or rivals. All the rest of the death eaters (including Goyle) were given life sentences in Azkaban.

He also made sure that Snape's portrait would remain in the Headmaster's Office.

This post is a mess, but I don't have the energy to organize it. :P
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#31 Jul 16 2011 at 9:42 PM Rating: Good
Thanks for the info digg, I never knew some of that other stuff.
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Diglett is such a ******* Potter geek... Smiley: tongue
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#33 Jul 17 2011 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
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I enjoyed the movie. I hadn't read the 7th book in a couple years, so I didn't have to notice all the changes. However, the scene I was honestly most looking forward to was when everyone at Hogwarts is shown Harry's body, and the person who screams is McGonogall. It made me sad that they changed that for the movie :(.
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**** Dig, where you get some of this info?
so I can pass info along, but not send people to this site XD lol
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For everyone complaining about minor changes from the book, I have two words for you, "Tom Bombadil".
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For everyone complaining about minor changes from the book, I have two words for you, "Tom Bombadil".


I was more bothered with the sacking of the Shire not being in the movie, it would have made a better ending than what was given.
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For everyone complaining about minor changes from the book, I have two words for you, "Tom Bombadil".


Director probably thought it would be too hard to try and explain his character.
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
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For everyone complaining about minor changes from the book, I have two words for you, "Tom Bombadil".


Director probably thought it would be too hard to try and explain his character.



****, Tolkien couldn't really explain him.Smiley: tongue
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There is definitely a lot I didn't remember. I read the book within the week it was released so it's been a few years.

One piece of advice I can give. Don't see "dark" movies at the drive-in. We went and saw the double feature, part 1 and 2 at the drive in and it really took away from the movie. It was hard to see detail and what was actually going on. I'll have to go back and watch it at a regular theatre.
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One piece of advice I can give. Don't see "dark" movies at the drive-in. We went and saw the double feature, part 1 and 2 at the drive in and it really took away from the movie. It was hard to see detail and what was actually going on. I'll have to go back and watch it at a regular theatre.


Wait. You go to a drive-in to watch a movie...? Smiley: confused
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
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For everyone complaining about minor changes from the book, I have two words for you, "Tom Bombadil".


Director probably thought it would be too hard to try and explain his character.



****, Tolkien couldn't really explain him.Smiley: tongue


And that's why he's f*cking awesome.
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One piece of advice I can give. Don't see "dark" movies at the drive-in. We went and saw the double feature, part 1 and 2 at the drive in and it really took away from the movie. It was hard to see detail and what was actually going on. I'll have to go back and watch it at a regular theatre.
Wait. You go to a drive-in to watch a movie...? Smiley: confused
I don't think I've ever seen more than five minutes worth of a movie in any drive in.
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One piece of advice I can give. Don't see "dark" movies at the drive-in. We went and saw the double feature, part 1 and 2 at the drive in and it really took away from the movie. It was hard to see detail and what was actually going on. I'll have to go back and watch it at a regular theatre.
Wait. You go to a drive-in to watch a movie...? Smiley: confused
I don't think I've ever seen more than five minutes worth of a movie in any drive in.


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Just saw it earlier and I agree with some that it was certainly the best in the series. It mostly felt rushed to me. Alan Rickman easily carried the best moments. The thing that probably disappointed me the most was that there was no exploration of Harry dying to protect everyone from Voldemort. That could have translated well into film. The Molly/Beatrix fight was rather rushed as well and was easily one of my favorite moments in the books.

The part where Voldemort hugs Malfoy was so awkwardly hilarious, I burst out laughing. I was surprised no one else did. Smiley: bah
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I saw this last Sunday. It was good - better than the first half. Apparently it was very long ago that I'd read the book, as I was very confused about the final fight. I thought it had all taken place in the woods, not at the school. But my daughter assured me otherwise.

I liked the Gringott Bank scene the best.

Nineteen years later Hermione still looked 19.

Over-all the last couple books really lacked the fun, whimsical, magic stuffs that, I though, were Rowlings specialty.

The whole deal (7 books, 8 movies) made for some good reading and watching entertainment. I'll not be playing the video game.





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IDrownFish wrote:
Friar Bijou wrote:
TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
Turin wrote:
For everyone complaining about minor changes from the book, I have two words for you, "Tom Bombadil".


Director probably thought it would be too hard to try and explain his character.



****, Tolkien couldn't really explain him.Smiley: tongue


And that's why he's f*cking awesome.


But, to be fair, that section grinds the flow of the book to a halt. Tolkein admitted that he only included Bombadil because his kids loved him, but wished he had omitted him, because he was too poorly inserted into the story. It's like stopping the Fellowship of the Ring a quarter through it to read a short story that has nothing to do with anything, and will never again be mentioned by anyone.

While we are on LotR though, I have to say--the thing I missed most in the translation from book to movie was the beginning of the first one. I thought the book plot, with him selling Bag End and such, was much, much more powerful. I get why they changed it, but I thought the quiet sorrow involved in leaving the Shire behind was great.
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One piece of advice I can give. Don't see "dark" movies at the drive-in. We went and saw the double feature, part 1 and 2 at the drive in and it really took away from the movie. It was hard to see detail and what was actually going on. I'll have to go back and watch it at a regular theatre.


Wait. You go to a drive-in to watch a movie...? Smiley: confused


Sometimes, it depends on the movie(s). They have some decent double features for less than the price of 1 movie at a theatre. I get to do what I want, I don't have to sit in a theatre with people being annoying as ****. I can also keep the volume at a level that doesn't blow my ear drums.
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One piece of advice I can give. Don't see "dark" movies at the drive-in. We went and saw the double feature, part 1 and 2 at the drive in and it really took away from the movie. It was hard to see detail and what was actually going on. I'll have to go back and watch it at a regular theatre.


Wait. You go to a drive-in to watch a movie...? Smiley: confused


Sometimes, it depends on the movie(s). They have some decent double features for less than the price of 1 movie at a theatre. I get to do what I want, I don't have to sit in a theatre with people being annoying as @#%^. I can also keep the volume at a level that doesn't blow my ear drums.


Does that mean... you go alone?
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One piece of advice I can give. Don't see "dark" movies at the drive-in. We went and saw the double feature, part 1 and 2 at the drive in and it really took away from the movie. It was hard to see detail and what was actually going on. I'll have to go back and watch it at a regular theatre.


Wait. You go to a drive-in to watch a movie...? Smiley: confused


Sometimes, it depends on the movie(s). They have some decent double features for less than the price of 1 movie at a theatre. I get to do what I want, I don't have to sit in a theatre with people being annoying as @#%^. I can also keep the volume at a level that doesn't blow my ear drums.


Does that mean... you go alone?


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You totally can't tell that the local drive-in used to show X-rated films.
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