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#1 Jul 15 2011 at 1:44 AM Rating: Good
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That's it. The end.

And I think it ended on a very good note.

Also, Draco/Voldemort is now headcannon after the Voldehug.
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#2 Jul 15 2011 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm a big HP buff, but I just can't stand the movies. The deviation from the books kills my soul (as does any adaptation that doesn't stay true to the original).

I saw every movie up until 5, and then stopped.

The fact that I'm always confused about what's going on, despite completely knowing the book's plot, never helps. >.<
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#3 Jul 15 2011 at 1:56 AM Rating: Good
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I think that in this last one, they actually stayed really true to the book. My sister is like you - faithful tot he book to the end. And even she admitted that this movie was the best in the series, and that it's pretty dang close. There are some minor discrepancies, of course, but that would happen unless they used the book for an actual script.

A very few changes off the top of my head:

Neville admits flat out that he has a thing for Luna, where it was only implied in the book, and only if you have your shipping goggles on pretty tight.

The Harry-Voldemort battle is drawn out a lot more. This is a change I actually liked. Voldy's death in the book was just so sudden. It felt a bit rushed.

They don't show Harry's wand being repaired. Minor detail, btu a detail nonetheless. It didn't really bother me too much.
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So at the part where Voldemort's robes start to wrap around and strangle harry My girlfriend leans over to me and says I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going. I giggled.
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Your girlfriend is both awesome and terrifying.

Neville admits flat out that he has a thing for Luna, where it was only implied in the book, and only if you have your shipping goggles on pretty tight.

Too bad he ends up with Hannah Abbott. Yes, I am that much of an HP nerd to know that off the top of my head. >.< Hence why the movies give me trouble, lol.

I think the third movie was when my faith in them was shattered. I respected that the 4th and 5th tried to stay closer to the books, but the 3rd was just unforgivable. And the casting and writing of Dumbledore in the latter movies is just awful. I still don't understand why he regularly assaulted Harry in the 4th...

I will say that I've always thought that Emma Watson and Alan Rickman were perfectly cast though. McGonagall and Gilderoy Lockhart were good too.
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Also, with some dental work, Neville's actor would be completely adorable.

Until then, he's only moderately so.
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Oh my, he did get them fixed...
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This belongs here.
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Also, Peter Garrett looks like Voldemort.
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#9 Jul 15 2011 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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lolgaxe wrote:

Also, Peter Garrett looks like Voldemort.
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Pretty sure that's Rick Scott, governor of FL, affectionately referred to as Governor Alien.
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Too bad he ends up with Hannah Abbott. Yes, I am that much of an HP nerd to know that off the top of my head. >.< Hence why the movies give me trouble, lol.

Holy moley, I never knew that. Reading the interview now; I knew the first part, that Dumbledore's wand shoots for the other team. Sucks that Hagrid never marries.

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#10 Jul 15 2011 at 8:00 AM Rating: Good
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Then Rick Scott looks like Peter Garrett that looks like Voldemort. Smiley: laugh
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#11 Jul 15 2011 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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Going to see the double feature tonight at the drive in. At least it sounds like they made the last movie a good one.
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This was definitely my favorite HP movie, and it followed the book remarkably well for an HP movie. I especially loved McGonagall/Molly/Neville during this one.

One part I was hoping they had deviated from the book was the "19 years later" part. I think I can speak for most people there, given the massive groan that spread across the theater when it started to play. I was pleasantly surprised though. It was actually pretty cute and not nearly as cheesey and fan-fic-ish as originally written. Albus Severus Potter is still a ridiculous name though. Poor kid will get made fun of for years.

In the end, I loved the whole thing, and will probably go see it again in the next 72 hours.
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#13 Jul 15 2011 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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One part I was hoping they had deviated from the book was the "19 years later" part.


I actually loved that she did that in the book, personally. Smiley: lol
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Albus Severus Potter is still a ridiculous name though. Poor kid will get made fun of for years.


Given some of the weird names that seem to be commonplace in the wizarding world (like Xenophilius), I'm not too worried.
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RizzoRazzle wrote:
One part I was hoping they had deviated from the book was the "19 years later" part.


I actually loved that she did that in the book, personally. Smiley: lol

Just curious, but why? I always hate time-leap endings personally. I respect that she was basically closing down the series, but still... ugh. Hokey.

Also, little pet peeve of mine... why do people in books get married to the folks they fall for at 16? If I married my girlfriend from that time I'd be MISERABLE now. I understand it would be too weird to bring in new characters, but dammit, these kids never even learn basic life skills in Hogwarts and now they're getting married? Yeah, that's safe.

Actually, let's think about that for a moment. I understand spells are cool, but think of all the things they're missing from their 7 years of education:

-Basic math skills
-Basic reading/writing/language (how is this not explained? I know most 11 year olds have some reading ability, but do they really not have a language class at all for the next 7 years!?)
-Science of any kind (this includes *** ed)
-I might have missed it, but is there an ethics or law class? Besides History of Magic? They're enabling children to wield powerful spells and then letting them out into the world. Yeah, that's gonna end well.



Aaaaaand, I'm still looking forward to seeing this tonight Smiley: lol
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LockeColeMA wrote:
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Actually, let's think about that for a moment. I understand spells are cool, but think of all the things they're missing from their 7 years of education:

-Basic math skills
-Basic reading/writing/language (how is this not explained? I know most 11 year olds have some reading ability, but do they really not have a language class at all for the next 7 years!?)
-Science of any kind (this includes *** ed)
-I might have missed it, but is there an ethics or law class? Besides History of Magic? They're enabling children to wield powerful spells and then letting them out into the world. Yeah, that's gonna end well.



Aaaaaand, I'm still looking forward to seeing this tonight Smiley: lol


Why do you think they have so many issues blending in with Muggles? Smiley: lol
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Just curious, but why? I always hate time-leap endings personally. I respect that she was basically closing down the series, but still... ugh. Hokey.


I guess because it's how I wanted things to turn out, and having that endorsed as "fact" by the author makes me feel all gooey inside.
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I forgot this:

LockeColeMA wrote:
Also, little pet peeve of mine... why do people in books get married to the folks they fall for at 16?



Two things: One, they go through so much together and no one could possibly understand them. They have such a bond, and they are truly in love. Two, there are really no other options because these are the characters the readers have grown to love. You don't really think of them as 16 year olds (unless you are 16). You think of them as your own age, in a way.
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Also, little pet peeve of mine... why do people in books get married to the folks they fall for at 16? If I married my girlfriend from that time I'd be MISERABLE now. I understand it would be too weird to bring in new characters, but dammit, these kids never even learn basic life skills in Hogwarts and now they're getting married? Yeah, that's safe.


Luna marries Newt Scamander's son (the one who wrote Magical Beasts and Where to Find Them), who wasn't in the book. :P Draco ends up with someone who was in Hogwarts at the time, but never mentioned (Astoria Greengrass). Most of the future stories haven't actually been commented on/published by JK Rowling--they'll come out whenever she publishes her encyclopedia.

The ones who do marry characters from the books:
George marries Angelina Johnson
Neville marries Hannah
Harry marries Ginny
Hermione marries Ron

I'm pretty sure that's all that has actually been revealed.

Of those, only Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione dated while in school. Neville KNEW Hannah, but there wasn't any relationship. And Angelina was kinda involved with Fred, not George.

As for Arthur/Molly Weasley and James/Lily Potter, it's also not surprising. They make a point to note in the books that, during Voldemort's reign, people were quick to marry and start families, for fear that they didn't have time to do otherwise. If you are looking to be settled by 20, your high school sweetheart is often your only option, since there isn't really Wizard college, and the Wizarding world is a really drawn out place. You literally know EVERYONE around your age in the whole country, because of Hogwarts.

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I am SUCH A NERD. D:
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Also, little pet peeve of mine... why do people in books get married to the folks they fall for at 16? If I married my girlfriend from that time I'd be MISERABLE now. I understand it would be too weird to bring in new characters, but dammit, these kids never even learn basic life skills in Hogwarts and now they're getting married? Yeah, that's safe.


Luna marries Newt Scamander's son (the one who wrote Magical Beasts and Where to Find Them), who wasn't in the book. :P Draco ends up with someone who was in Hogwarts at the time, but never mentioned (Astoria Greengrass). Most of the future stories haven't actually been commented on/published by JK Rowling--they'll come out whenever she publishes her encyclopedia.

The ones who do marry characters from the books:
George marries Angelina Johnson
Neville marries Hannah
Harry marries Ginny
Hermione marries Ron

I'm pretty sure that's all that has actually been revealed.

Of those, only Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione dated while in school. Neville KNEW Hannah, but there wasn't any relationship. And Angelina was kinda involved with Fred, not George.

As for Arthur/Molly Weasley and James/Lily Potter, it's also not surprising. They make a point to note in the books that, during Voldemort's reign, people were quick to marry and start families, for fear that they didn't have time to do otherwise. If you are looking to be settled by 20, your high school sweetheart is often your only option, since there isn't really Wizard college, and the Wizarding world is a really drawn out place. You literally know EVERYONE around your age in the whole country, because of Hogwarts.

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I am SUCH A NERD. D:


So... where did this information come from?
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JK Rowling gives interviews and talks. >.<
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#23 Jul 15 2011 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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One part I was hoping they had deviated from the book was the "19 years later" part. I think I can speak for most people there, given the massive groan that spread across the theater when it started to play. I was pleasantly surprised though. It was actually pretty cute and not nearly as cheesey and fan-fic-ish as originally written.
Hm, everyone in my theater cheered when that part came up. It's a little hokey, sure, but I think it was important. When you have a series like this that is so beloved, with characters that you are emotionally invested in, even when you get good closure you find yourself asking "but what happens now?" (or at least I do). I think it gives you a much greater sense of satisfaction with the ending, personally. Also, I agree with Belkira.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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One part I was hoping they had deviated from the book was the "19 years later" part.


I actually loved that she did that in the book, personally. Smiley: lol

Just curious, but why? I always hate time-leap endings personally. I respect that she was basically closing down the series, but still... ugh. Hokey.


You're not alone. I hate time leap endings, too. I have an unusual affection for ambiguous endings that's related to it, too.

My best example? FF7. God almighty, I wish they ended that game with the CG where everyone blinks or shields their eyes (it's probably youtube-able, if anyone can't remember the scene). That would have been such a poetic ending. People would have hated it for the ambiguity, though.

Instead, they then cut to the "X years later" CG, with Red XIII and kin. It didn't ruin the ending, by any stretch, but man, they missed a chance.
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Instead, they then cut to the "X years later" CG, with Red XIII and kin. It didn't ruin the ending, by any stretch, but man, they missed a chance.


I thought that was a great scene, personally. It didn't really concern the characters at all--it was more about showing that the quest was worth it, and I appreciated that gesture.

I didn't mind the epilogue as a flash-forward, I just didn't like the way it was written. But I'll admit it had the emotional reaction she was likely intending.

When I imagine the 7th book without the epilogue, it just doesn't feel complete.
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So, the movie ****** me off. AFAIK it was the best one (I haven't seen the others in years), but every little tiny detail that changed annoyed me. Spoilers ahoy:


-Gringotts, they don't fall off the track in the book, the multiplying cups didn't burn in the movie, there is a LOT less death mentioned in the book, including Griphook dying.
-Neville... ok, to be fair, he's pretty much the best character in the last movie. Funny, awkward, and awesome. I didn't like his speech at the end, though I don't remember if that was in the book. And in the book, he doesn't like Luna! Sigh.
-I thought Hagrid was carried away by spiders. Instead he's just tied up in the forest by Death Eaters without explanation. His brother is missing entirely.
-King's Cross wasn't bad; I think they cut a fair amount of dialogue, but kept the important bits ("Of course it's all in your head!")
-While the fight scene with Volemort was cool, it was also overly lengthy. And i don't recall Voldemort getting hit by Harry's spell, but rather their spells ricocheting and Voldemort basically hitting himself by accident. And while I enjoyed the "Not my daughter, you *****!" line (and everyone applauded in the theater), I actually felt it was poorly delivered.
-Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his in the book; he doesn't snap it in half >_<
-Ok... big personal peeve: Harry's mom Lily. Looking at the actress, I'd put her at... 40? Maybe older? She's supposed to be 21! Almost the same age as her son. Same with Harry's dad James, who looks **** near 50. Why the heck did they age their characters AFTER they died?


So yeah. I was annoyed by a lot of it. I should have watched some of the previous movies again before going; it just felt, eh, not as magical. So, best of the series perhaps, but needs to be connected to the others to really make magic.
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