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#1 Jul 09 2011 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Back when GRRM finally announced that he had finished the book, I preordered it from Amazon. I just got an email from them, a portion of which says this:

Amazon wrote:


Amazon.com items (Sold by Amazon.com, LLC) :

1 A Dance with Dragons (Song... $17.50 1 $17.50

Shipped via USPS



After five years it seems it's finally going to happen. I'm seriously tempted to take Wednesday off from work and spend the day reading instead.

Yes, this is the closest thing to excitement you will ever see from me.
#2 Jul 09 2011 at 8:59 PM Rating: Good
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Only Wednesday?

You read that fast? :D
#3 Jul 09 2011 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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Only Wednesday?

You read that fast? :D
Could probably zerg read 1200 pages or so in a day if you were a lunatic.
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#4 Jul 09 2011 at 10:31 PM Rating: Good
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I could do it. My eyes wouldn't like me anymore, but I could do it.
#5 Jul 09 2011 at 11:21 PM Rating: Good
I really, really need to go out and buy storm of swords and feast for crows...
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#6 Jul 09 2011 at 11:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ravashack wrote:
Only Wednesday?

You read that fast? :D


It's really not that uncommon. 1,200 pages in a single session is pushing it even for me though.
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#7 Jul 10 2011 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Typically, what I will end up doing with a book like this, where I've been anticipating it for a while, is I'll end up reading it fairly quickly, finishing in 1-3 sittings. I'll end up reading it a second time at a more leisurely pace afterwards.
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Monsieur Spoonless wrote:
Typically, what I will end up doing with a book like this, where I've been anticipating it for a while, is I'll end up reading it fairly quickly, finishing in 1-3 sittings. I'll end up reading it a second time at a more leisurely pace afterwards.


I admit, when I read more often, I did this too--only in one sitting. So I'm not saying it's impossible to read it all in one day because I know I can do it too. =X
#9 Jul 10 2011 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
This might be blasphemous, but I'll probably finish the next wheel of time book that I just started before I even start 'dance'.
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#10 Jul 10 2011 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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When there is a new release to a series of books, I generally re-read through the whole series of books before I get to the new one, in order to refresh my crappy memory. Because of this, I am very familiar with the first half of the Wheel of Time series. It also gives me an excuse to wait to pick up the book that isn't "I don't have enough money." Now I just need to figure out what boxes my books are still in.

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Monsieur Lubriderm wrote:
This might be blasphemous, but I'll probably finish the next wheel of time book that I just started before I even start 'dance'.


This might be blasphemous, but I tried to read the Wheel of Time series, and could only make it about 1/4 of the way through the first book.
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I could do 1200 pages a day without wanting to die, but I'd come close.

But I'd need to go for a run or something around the middle to purge all my excess energy.

My average reading rate (without trying to read fast) is about 350 words per minute. There are about 250 words per page of a normal novel, so this would be 14 hours of reading without me trying to speed read. I doubt I could go my normal pace,manage to do it in one day, and still have enjoyed reading the book. But I could definitely do it if I wanted to.
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#13 Jul 11 2011 at 2:04 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going to have to pick this series back up. I started A Game of Thrones on a trip and never got back into it for some reason.

Yes, I know, I'm very late to the party. But I need something to do this summer, so...
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#14 Jul 11 2011 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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...and my copy came a day early. As soon as I'm done eating it's a time to start the Dance. I just took a quick look and there is a note in the beginning on timelines. Dance follows the story of the North and across the narrow sea during the events of Feast, but about halfway through characters from the South start popping up and the book moves on past the events in Feast. Also, the title of book six will be The Winds of Winter.

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#15 Jul 11 2011 at 6:49 PM Rating: Good
oi. Audio books is well over double the price of the hard cover XD.
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oi. Audio books is well over double the price of the hard cover XD.


That's pretty common. If you have a subscription to Audible, they give you a credit per month that you can use for the audiobook (they typically cost two credits). I can't remember, but I think they give you a couple credits for subscribing. You might be able to use that to get the book for free. If not, it probably won't do you any good now unless you have an interest in other audiobooks and can wait a couple months, but perhaps it's something to keep in mind for the future. The subscription I have is good for 30% off of the cost of regular audiobooks too, so it's pretty worthwhile if you listen to a lot of them (like at work).

I read the first four books that way. The narrator for the first three, Roy Dotrice, makes them quite worthwhile. He's great. Unfortunately they changed narrator's for Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons, and the new guy isn't as good.

Edited, Jul 11th 2011 10:40pm by Eske
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I really can't enjoy audio books. There was a while when I was driving quite a lot each day (in large chunks), and they would have been nice. But it just didn't do it for me.

I think the real problem was that hearing it in someone else's voice really just destroyed whatever immersion I could have felt.

It's a shame, really. It would be nice to have that option for long road trips or plane rides. When I was a kid, I could read in automobiles just fine. But I get motion sick now. :(
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#18 Jul 11 2011 at 9:02 PM Rating: Good
I'm the other way, I enjoy being told stories. My reading skills have never been that great, so listening to words being spoken has always helped me with English speaking/reading skills.
I listen to audio books only at work however. It is a boring job so a good story can make the day zoom by.

I'll check the audible site out. Free audio books are always nice..
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#19 Jul 12 2011 at 5:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
I'm the other way, I enjoy being told stories. My reading skills have never been that great, so listening to words being spoken has always helped me with English speaking/reading skills.
I listen to audio books only at work however. It is a boring job so a good story can make the day zoom by.

I'll check the audible site out. Free audio books are always nice..



I got one free book out of registering at audible, otherwise those books are too expensive for my taste.

Avoid Stephen King books read by King himself btw, he's a good writer (imo anyway) but not that great in reading his material.
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#20 Jul 12 2011 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
I'm the other way, I enjoy being told stories. My reading skills have never been that great, so listening to words being spoken has always helped me with English speaking/reading skills.
I listen to audio books only at work however. It is a boring job so a good story can make the day zoom by.

I'll check the audible site out. Free audio books are always nice..



I got one free book out of registering at audible, otherwise those books are too expensive for my taste.

Avoid Stephen King books read by King himself btw, he's a good writer (imo anyway) but not that great in reading his material.


As of last night A Dance with Dragons is not on audible yet. And agree to the King reading, he is to boring to listen to lol.

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#21 Jul 12 2011 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
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Monsieur Lubriderm wrote:
This might be blasphemous, but I'll probably finish the next wheel of time book that I just started before I even start 'dance'.


This might be blasphemous, but I tried to read the Wheel of Time series, and could only make it about 1/4 of the way through the first book.
Not blasphemous at all. If I weren't obsessive-compulsive about finishing stuff, I'd have probably dropped it.
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#22 Jul 12 2011 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
WoT is very hit or miss, I've found. It's one of my favorite series, and I know many other people who feel the same way, but I also know several people who hated it. There's no denying that it's very long and very detailed, with way too many characters to keep track of. But I love all that detail and how intricately woven together the plots are. (And the last book comes out in 5 months!!!)
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#23 Jul 12 2011 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
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WoT is very hit or miss, I've found. It's one of my favorite series, and I know many other people who feel the same way, but I also know several people who hated it. There's no denying that it's very long and very detailed, with way too many characters to keep track of. But I love all that detail and how intricately woven together the plots are. (And the last book comes out in 5 months!!!)


My early issue with it wasn't with complexity of detail or number of characters, actually. I have this weird pet peeve about reading: I've never liked books where the main characters aren't "worldly", and everything that they experience is new to them and must be explained.

I understand the reasoning for it...sometimes it's so that the reader can be placed alongside that protagonist. Exposition would seem natural if the character experiences everything newly as the reader would, and must have everything explained.

What it often leads to though, and which I hate, is when some miraculous and convenient thing happens (say, the characters are suddenly saved from the brink of death when one of their companions uses some hitherto unseen magic). The protagonist will say "What was that?! How did you do that?!" to which the magic character will say something like "Oh, I'm a Pyromancer. You didn't know that there were Pyromancers? Oh yeah, and we also use magic, by the way. Sorry for not telling you sooner."

It's such a fantasy cliche. It strikes me as a "cheap" literary technique, I guess. And the first half of Eye of the World was chock full of that. I'm sure that changes soon enough, as the setting is fully fleshed out. I just lost interest early on.

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I purchased "Game of Thrones" at the airport on my way home from Chicago. I really wanted "Wise Man's Fear," so I have only read the prolouge of GoT so far. It was interesting. I then purchased Wise Man's Fear in Detroit and immediately started reading that instead.

My husband decided to read GoT since I wasn't, and he said he won't be finishing the series. He thinks it's a bit boring. He's 100 pages in and said the action in the prolouge is pretty much all the action he has encountered so far. Smiley: frown
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I purchased "Game of Thrones" at the airport on my way home from Chicago. I really wanted "Wise Man's Fear," so I have only read the prolouge of GoT so far. It was interesting. I then purchased Wise Man's Fear in Detroit and immediately started reading that instead.

My husband decided to read GoT since I wasn't, and he said he won't be finishing the series. He thinks it's a bit boring. He's 100 pages in and said the action in the prolouge is pretty much all the action he has encountered so far. Smiley: frown


To use a Harry Potter reference, it's like a game of Wizard's Chess. It's a lot of thinking, punctuated by short bursts of action where one of the chess pieces gets royally screwed over.

Also, the entire series is the game, not the first book. In the first book only a Rook gets smashed, and maybe a pawn or two.

Edit: Also, I am a nerd. And HP7-2 is coming out soon! Smiley: grin

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#26 Jul 12 2011 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I purchased "Game of Thrones" at the airport on my way home from Chicago. I really wanted "Wise Man's Fear," so I have only read the prolouge of GoT so far. It was interesting. I then purchased Wise Man's Fear in Detroit and immediately started reading that instead.

My husband decided to read GoT since I wasn't, and he said he won't be finishing the series. He thinks it's a bit boring. He's 100 pages in and said the action in the prolouge is pretty much all the action he has encountered so far. Smiley: frown


To use a Harry Potter reference, it's like a game of Wizard's Chess. It's a lot of thinking, punctuated by short bursts of action where one of the chess pieces gets royally screwed over.


That's a good summary of it. There's a lot of jockeying for position, and the action is more of the strategic, political variety, rather than swords and spears and such. Not that it doesn't have the latter, it's just that those elements tend to be quick and brutal. They don't take up a ton of space.

Edited, Jul 12th 2011 3:53pm by Eske
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