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#52 May 18 2011 at 12:48 AM Rating: Good
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Matt Smith is definitely way better than Tennant.


I think they're just about equal. They're both just as good but in different ways.
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#53 May 19 2011 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
I FINALLY got around to watching episode 4 last night, so I can catch up on the discussion! This one had really interesting insight into the relationship between the Doctor and the TARDIS; I had never considered the TARDIS as a sentient being before, but it certainly sheds a new light on things. It was also very sad for the Doctor to think he found more Timelords (even though we knew that couldn't actually happen). He was rather angry when he found out the truth. I am just waiting for the day when he gets pushed just far enough and goes apesh*t on everything.
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#54 May 19 2011 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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The sentience of the TARDIS is sort of implied if you are either a considering person or religious or both. As described in the last episode of the 2005 season, the Heart of the TARDIS is a Space-Time Vortex that contains the whole of Space and Time. To consciously experience what the Heart of the Tardis/The Space Time Vortex experiences is to be simultaneously aware of "everything that is, everything that ever was, and everything that ever will be". No matter where and when your body actually is.

You can just call it the Universe - experienced totally all at once. It is an experience, so is it a point of view? If it is a point of view, it's the same point of view ascribed by humans to God/Brahman/Allah etc. "Everything that is, everything that ever was, and everything that ever will be", experienced all at once.

If it's a point of view, then arguably it's a sentience. But that God-like point of view might not be sentient, or a sentient process, in itself, but merely a (very large) state of being, or a type of experience available to other sentiences. So the Heart of the TARDIS might not necessarily have to be sentient.

Then again, since it contains awareness of all the sentient beings in the Universe, well, that's a lot of a different type of sentience of a sort, which one could think of as being available to tap into like a computer data-base.

In a related way, episode 13 of 2005 tells us the main difference between human beings and timelords.
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#55 May 23 2011 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
I FINALLY got around to watching episode 4 last night, so I can catch up on the discussion! This one had really interesting insight into the relationship between the Doctor and the TARDIS; I had never considered the TARDIS as a sentient being before, but it certainly sheds a new light on things. It was also very sad for the Doctor to think he found more Timelords (even though we knew that couldn't actually happen). He was rather angry when he found out the truth. I am just waiting for the day when he gets pushed just far enough and goes apesh*t on everything.


I was hoping they were going to do this after the episode Waters on Mars with Tennant. It would have worked out well, and they almost went with it but they just had to end that episode returning him to 'normal' state of mind. Just when he decided he had enough of just watching and observing and had all the power to intervene and do right, they had to have the character he saved from Mars kill herself, making him realise that ultimately he would fail and do more harm than good.

A real shame, it would be so much fun to see the doctor lose it and go crazy on the universe, Smith might make it look quite good too, he's already got a sligthly eccentric and mad edge to him imo.
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Then again, since it contains awareness of all the sentient beings in the Universe, well, that's a lot of a different type of sentience of a sort, which one could think of as being available to tap into like a computer data-base.


The most recent episode(s6e5) posits an idea that makes this seem even more likely, the fact thatsentience can be contagious. The Flesh constantly has the thoughts/feelings/memories of the workers poured into it, and eventually develops the capacity for independent action. The TARDIS is supposedly aware of all sentient life that ever existed or will ever exist at the same time, not too much of a stretch for that constant near-omniscience to have a similar effect. And the scale of awareness could explain why she developed a unique personality colored by the way the doctor treats her as opposed to The Flesh's mimicry of the few beings its aware of.

side note: why the **** isn't BBCA not in HD yet?
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#57 May 23 2011 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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side note: why the **** isn't BBCA not in HD yet?


When watching Doctor Who, I see that it is available in HD. I'm just assuming my cable provider has not acquired the HD Channel yet. There are quite a few channels I watch that say "In HD Where Available" yet it's not available through Charter here. Namely Cartoon Network and BBC.

Write your cable provider and ask them for the HD channels.
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#58 May 23 2011 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Am I the only one that found the newest episode a bit lame? The whole doppelganger thing has been done to death. I'm honestly not particularly interested in watching the conclusion.
#59 May 23 2011 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
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Am I the only one that found the newest episode a bit lame? The whole doppelganger thing has been done to death. I'm honestly not particularly interested in watching the conclusion.


I'm really more interested in how the Doctor recognizes the Flesh, maybe it was in a previous episode with the other Doctors? I dunno, I haven't seen them all or remember all the ones I have seen. Or how the Doctor and the Flesh interact.
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#60 May 24 2011 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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Am I the only one that found the newest episode a bit lame? The whole doppelganger thing has been done to death. I'm honestly not particularly interested in watching the conclusion.
What concerns me is the possibility that they can use this to get themselves out of the hole they dug in the first episode. If the doppelganger doctor doesn't die (or another one gets made), then it could easily be one of them that gets killed rather than the real doctor. Frankly, I think that would be a little too easy and I hope it's not the route they take, but I see it as a possibility.
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#61 May 24 2011 at 5:26 AM Rating: Good
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Am I the only one that found the newest episode a bit lame? The whole doppelganger thing has been done to death. I'm honestly not particularly interested in watching the conclusion.
What concerns me is the possibility that they can use this to get themselves out of the hole they dug in the first episode. If the doppelganger doctor doesn't die (or another one gets made), then it could easily be one of them that gets killed rather than the real doctor. Frankly, I think that would be a little too easy and I hope it's not the route they take, but I see it as a possibility.


I don't think this is the case. It'd be too obvious and too early on in the season. Plus, the Flesh-Doctor wouldn't have a Tardis and be able to travel across the space/time/universe. Flesh-Doctor would have had to travel to Earth some 200+ years later, travel to Nevada, then go back to 1965 (I think that's when it was. Or maybe they went back to 1965 after the Doctor's death).
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#62 May 24 2011 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good
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Am I the only one that found the newest episode a bit lame? The whole doppelganger thing has been done to death. I'm honestly not particularly interested in watching the conclusion.

I've tried watching it twice already, and can't stay awake. So yeah, not very good IMO.
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#63 May 25 2011 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
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I've finally watched the whole thing now, and I can say it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Apparently I was very tired the previous 2 times I tried watching it.
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#64 May 28 2011 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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Anyone watching the series through BBC America won't get to see the second part till June 4th. Apparently they think that due to Memorial Day no one will want to watch the new Doctor Who episode. Well it's a good thing the decided to have a Doctor Who marathon instead. Smiley: oyvey
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#65 May 28 2011 at 9:57 PM Rating: Good
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Anyone watching the series through BBC America won't get to see the second part till June 4th. Apparently they think that due to Memorial Day no one will want to watch the new Doctor Who episode. Well it's a good thing the decided to have a Doctor Who marathon instead. Smiley: oyvey


My TV was on BBC America all day today. Not really watching it, just kinda... on.
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#66 May 28 2011 at 10:01 PM Rating: Good
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Anyone watching the series through BBC America won't get to see the second part till June 4th. Apparently they think that due to Memorial Day no one will want to watch the new Doctor Who episode. Well it's a good thing the decided to have a Doctor Who marathon instead. Smiley: oyvey


My TV was on BBC America all day today. Not really watching it, just kinda... on.


Nielson ratings still count it as watching though.
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Anyone watching the series through BBC America won't get to see the second part till June 4th. Apparently they think that due to Memorial Day no one will want to watch the new Doctor Who episode. Well it's a good thing the decided to have a Doctor Who marathon instead. Smiley: oyvey


My TV was on BBC America all day today. Not really watching it, just kinda... on.


Nielson ratings still count it as watching though.


I'm not part of the Nielsen collective.
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#68 May 31 2011 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks to the wonders of the internet I was able to give BBC the finger and get me my weekly Dr. fix. The episode was pretty much as bland as I expected it to be given the whole evil twin storyline they had to work with. Nice ending though. They pretty much tied up all the odd bits with Amy and set up the second half of season rather well.
#69 Jun 02 2011 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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Somewhat unrelated to the thread, but I was wondering if any of you fine Doctor Who fans might know of a good gift for someone who enjoys the show (I don't watch the show, so I have no idea). :)

Edited, Jun 2nd 2011 1:18pm by Vataro
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#70 Jun 02 2011 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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Somewhat unrelated to the thread, but I was wondering if any of you fine Doctor Who fans might know of a good gift for someone who enjoys the show (I don't watch the show, so I have no idea). :)

Edited, Jun 2nd 2011 1:18pm by Vataro
A mini-TARDIS makes the perfect gift.

Or a bowtie. Bowties are cool.
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#71 Jun 02 2011 at 10:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Vataro wrote:
Somewhat unrelated to the thread, but I was wondering if any of you fine Doctor Who fans might know of a good gift for someone who enjoys the show (I don't watch the show, so I have no idea). :)

Edited, Jun 2nd 2011 1:18pm by Vataro
A mini-TARDIS makes the perfect gift.

Or a bowtie. Bowties are cool.


Most of the things here: http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=dr+who

I personally like the Dalek toys. http://www.discountanimetoys.com/dwdalekmutant.html
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#72 Jun 02 2011 at 10:35 PM Rating: Good
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Go to Amazon.com, they have the official remote control Dalek toys being advertised during the show's commercial breaks.
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#73 Jun 03 2011 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, you pretty much can't go wrong with Daleks. Even $2 key-chain daleks or whatever.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2011 1:21pm by Aripyanfar
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$13 for a freaking keychain? ****.
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#75 Jun 04 2011 at 5:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's a Dalek keychain.
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#76 Jun 04 2011 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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It's a Dalek keychain.
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