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#77 Apr 29 2011 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Finally got time to watch the second episode last night. I think they're still dealing with pacing issues. Some things seem entirely too rushed. I do have the feeling that I would be somewhat lost if I hadn't read the book. The acting has been fairly good all around, except for the kid that played Micah. The few lines he had were painful to listen to.


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#78 Apr 29 2011 at 7:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Turin wrote:
Finally got time to watch the second episode last night. I think they're still dealing with pacing issues. Some things seem entirely too rushed. I do have the feeling that I would be somewhat lost if I hadn't read the book.


I felt this too, until I reread the book. For example, the episode starts with Lady Stark sitting by her son's bed and people commenting she's been there for a month. Then all of a sudden another month has gone by the Ned is down south. But rereading the book, that's exactly the same pacing. Characters comment on Catherine being in that room "for the last fortnight." And I think when they get to Ned it pretty much goes true to form as well.

However, I've only reread up right after Bran's fall, so it might be off the more I read.

I haven't seen the last 10 minutes or so of the episode, but I can guess how it ends. Joff is a jerk. He's actually even more of a jerk in the book, which I had kind of forgotten (he taunts Robb and basically calls him a pansy).
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#79 Apr 29 2011 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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I haven't seen the last 10 minutes or so of the episode, but I can guess how it ends. Joff is a jerk. He's actually even more of a jerk in the book, which I had kind of forgotten (he taunts Robb and basically calls him a pansy).


I didn't like the way episode 2 ended. Unless they go more into it in the 3rd episode, one of the set-ups for things to come wasn't shown.

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#80 May 02 2011 at 1:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, opinions on episode 3? Plan on watching it when I get home today, but I'm curious if anyone caught it last night. Online reviews seem to say it was weaker compared to the others so far, but still very worthwhile. Might throw non-readers for a loop with a bunch of new characters being introduced.
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#81 May 02 2011 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
I thought it was fine for what it was, but it is definitely a character development-heavy episode. Introduction of Varys and Petyr, as well as Jon Snow and Tyrion interacting up on the wall. I thought it was fine, but it's not the most interesting material ever.
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#82 May 02 2011 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I actually really liked this episode, but I can see how someone that hasn't read the book would have problems. I think there were were nine or ten characters making their first appearance, which could be pretty overwhelming for the uninitiated. I particularly liked the Arya scenes, that little girl has a future in acting. The scene between her and Ned, when he finds out about needle was perfectly executed. There was another scene between Cersei and Joffrey that wasn't in the book that included a bit of foreshadowing as well as helped to explain how he turned into such a little monster that was a nice addition.
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Thought it was a pretty decent episode, but definitely the main purpose was to introduce more characters. I find my favorite scenes are of the Wall so far. Then again, it's the same way in the books, so maybe I'm biased Smiley: tongue
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#84 May 03 2011 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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I really liked it as well. As was the case with the books, I actually enjoy things more when there's sharp/witty dialogue being exchanged than when there's action. I felt like this one was solid all-around, with the great performances that I'm coming to expect from Arya and Tyrion. Good stuff from all the rest, too, really.

I'm not quite sold on Varys or Little Finger yet. Neither really look much like what I pictured, and there wasn't enough screen time to really get a feel for them. Little Finger seemed slimy, though I wonder if it was a little too much. I feel like his character should be subtle and nuanced, and he came off as a bit too overtly 'bad guy'. Still too early to say for sure, though.
#85 May 03 2011 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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I thought Varys would have been fatter. I thought they got Little Finger about right, though. Renly didn't look like what I had imagined, though.
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#86 May 04 2011 at 4:26 PM Rating: Good
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I thought Varys would have been fatter. I thought they got Little Finger about right, though. Renly didn't look like what I had imagined, though.
I don't know what Renly should have looked like, but I thought they would have made him act a little ******** It's hinted at in the books that him and Loras might have just been more than friendly.
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#88 May 09 2011 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Some good and some bad with this episode. Pretty much all of Tyrion's scenes were well done, though I thought the scene at the inn was a bit rushed. Dany standing up to her brother was another good bit. But the actor they hired for Sam seems to have been picked more for his size than his acting ability. All of his scenes were just awkward. I'm hoping he'll get better with practice. Ser Alisor is a bit of a surprise, the speech he gave to Sam and Jon when they were cleaning the tables was probably my favorite part of this episode.
#89 May 09 2011 at 9:05 PM Rating: Good
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Some good and some bad with this episode. Pretty much all of Tyrion's scenes were well done, though I thought the scene at the inn was a bit rushed. Dany standing up to her brother was another good bit. But the actor they hired for Sam seems to have been picked more for his size than his acting ability. All of his scenes were just awkward. I'm hoping he'll get better with practice. Ser Alisor is a bit of a surprise, the speech he gave to Sam and Jon when they were cleaning the tables was probably my favorite part of this episode.


This one won't be my favorite episode. I don't like scenes that are overtly just about "teaching" the audience the lore and history, and this episode had a few. Didn't help that most of them weren't in the books. They seemed unnatural as a result. The one with Viserys in the tub was particularly egregious, and dragged on a bit too long.

I didn't have a problem with Sam, though he didn't look much like I expected (his character seems so reminiscent of Samwise from LOTR, that I couldn't help but picture Sean Astin.

I had been itching for the scenes when Dany starts asserting herself. Glad to finally be there. Smiley: grin I'm also looking forward to hearing more from Jorah and the Hound. They both seem like they've got a lot of potential.
#90 May 10 2011 at 4:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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I thought Sam was suitably awkward. Although Sam's character did remind me a little bit of Samwell in LOTR, the Sam in GRRM's books was obviously one of those really awkward people, the type that would be hugely ostracised and picked on in school. He's not just fat, he's not just a coward, he's unattractive in face and manner. He's a nerd, he's a geek, he's whatever name for the bottom of the heap there is these days.

His own father couldn't bear the thought of him inheriting from him, and would KILL him to stop it. That's a LOT of shame about his son. Really, you could put up with cowardice in a son if he was attractive and had a suitable guard.
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#91 May 10 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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The first three episodes were great for me, I'm about to watch the fourth one. Especially the third episode was truly good, it had a good feel of things really heating up now. Which knowing what is going to happen, only too true.

My main concern would only be that they are going to have to cut a lot out of the books, it really gets chockfull of intrigue and twists, I'm not sure if they're going to be able to pull it off. But if they keep this up, I'll be glad enough to have seen it anyway.

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After having seen episode four, there's at least one thing the series have in common with the books, I definitely do not care at all for Sam. I hate his character in the books, from his first sighting forth.

Another great episode, the Mountain doesn't seem big enough though.
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#93 May 11 2011 at 2:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm really sad there's only 10 episodes in the first season. However, I'm really looking forward to THE BIG EVENT of the first book, and waiting for GoT TV newbies to sh*t themselves, and run off to/quit HBO with howls of rage.
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#94 May 11 2011 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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I'm really sad there's only 10 episodes in the first season. However, I'm really looking forward to THE BIG EVENT of the first book, and waiting for GoT TV newbies to sh*t themselves, and run off to/quit HBO with howls of rage.
It's going to be exciting. We've got a couple of noobs in our watching group, so I'm excited to see their reactions.
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#95 May 11 2011 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
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just saw this astonishing preview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ5p18wIQEI
a must watch for every one..

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#96 May 12 2011 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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I'm really sad there's only 10 episodes in the first season. However, I'm really looking forward to THE BIG EVENT of the first book, and waiting for GoT TV newbies to sh*t themselves, and run off to/quit HBO with howls of rage.
By BIG EVENT I'm assuming you mean the scene where they go down a deep shaft and move the 7 kingdoms through time.
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#97 May 16 2011 at 2:59 AM Rating: Good
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I really enjoyed episode 5, especially the scene where Cercei and Robert sat down together and chatted truthfully about being emotional enemies, but with the feeling that they were in a sort of way comrades in arms. Engaged in the same sort of life. Tenuously holding the 7 kingdoms together by their political marriage. I kind of found the talk touching and intimate. "I hate you but we're the same."
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Didn't see episode 5 yet, but episode 4 was kinda "Meh." A lot of the new characters didn't look like I thought they would:

1. The mountain was too small.
2. Sam I thought would be fatter.
3. Hodor was too small and older than I thought

The scene with Viserys was "Meh" and only really useful for more background. Tyrion was great as always, but the inn scene I felt should have ended with him saying something like "Oh, sh*t" (even if it wasn't in the books, haha). I also thought Gendry would be a bit bigger, but I'll have to rewatch the episodes with Renly - Renly is supposed to be identical to Robert in his prime, and his bastards are supposed to look similar.
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#99 May 16 2011 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
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Aripyanfar wrote:
I really enjoyed episode 5, especially the scene where Cercei and Robert sat down together and chatted truthfully about being emotional enemies, but with the feeling that they were in a sort of way comrades in arms. Engaged in the same sort of life. Tenuously holding the 7 kingdoms together by their political marriage. I kind of found the talk touching and intimate. "I hate you but we're the same."


I loved that scene as well. There were definitely some nice additional scenes in this episode. I'm really liking these interactions between characters that weren't in the books so far. The one between Varys and Little Finger was great as well.

This might have been my favorite episode thus far. A lot of crisp, emotional dialogue with subtlety and nuance. Very fitting.
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I'm going to have to agree that the scene between Cercei and Robert was the best part of this episode. Actually, it may be the best scene of the whole series so far. Then there was the scene in the Eyrie with Lysa which just didn't work. Lysa was a bit too manic, a bit too off. The bit between Loras and Renly was unexpected. Their relationship was only hinted at in the books, but Loras going down on Renly sort of cleared things up rather quickly for those that didn't pick up on it.

Those two scenes share a common problem, one that I've noticed for a lot of the side characters. It felt like the writers were trying to jam twenty pages of subtle build up into too short of a time period. The result are characters that come out as being decidedly one dimensional, something that never really happened in the books.

Oh, and the Mountain was definitely too small. He was supposed to be able to swing that massive sword around with one arm and it looked like he could barely handle it with two.

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#101 May 16 2011 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
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I'm going to have to agree that the scene between Cercei and Robert was the best part of this episode. Actually, it may be the best scene of the whole series so far. Then there was the scene in the Eyrie with Lysa which just didn't work. Lysa was a bit too manic, a bit too off. The bit between Loras and Renly was unexpected. Their relationship was only hinted at in the books, but Loras going down on Renly sort of cleared things up rather quickly for those that didn't pick up on it.

Those two scenes share a common problem, one that I've noticed for a lot of the side characters. It felt like the writers were trying to jam twenty pages of subtle build up into too short of a time period. The result are characters that come out as being decidedly one dimensional, something that never really happened in the books.

Oh, and the Mountain was definitely too small. He was supposed to be able to swing that massive sword around with one arm and it looked like he could barely handle it with two.

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Agreed. I thought the moment with the Hound kneeling just in time to miss the Mountain's swing was well done though.
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