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#1 Aug 31 2010 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
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How has this not been posted yet?

The Walking Dead trailer
in non-crappy comic con quality. Looks amazing imo. I think that television definitely suits the zombie genre.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 1:01am by Paskil
#2 Aug 31 2010 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
As a comic book collector, I have a 75 issue head start on the TV show. Huzzah!
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#3 Aug 31 2010 at 1:46 AM Rating: Good
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Not that I'm trying to be graceless naysayer, but does this zombie series take the genre anywhere new? I like zombies, but I'm a little tired of the biggest innovation for each series being the method the zombies arrive, which tends to stop mattering after the exposition.
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My impression from the trailer is that it's more about the main character's mission to find his family, rather than good old zombie bashing that many have come to like. I'm not that big on the drama genre.
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As a comic book collector, I have a 75 issue head start on the TV show. Huzzah!
You're one issue behind then.

I'm in your base, asserting my alpha comic geekiness.
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Not that I'm trying to be graceless naysayer, but does this zombie series take the genre anywhere new?
To answer your question, the comic is more about how the people deal with the Zombie Apocalypse happening in 12/2012 (you heard it here first), than the Zombie Apocalypse itself. How people group together, what laws to make for themselves, how they treat each other or other groups who make other laws for themselves. A few of the issues have the zombies as an after thought, if that. Might not be new ground, but over all pretty well done none-the-less.

Infinitely better than High School of the Dead, at least.

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I wasn't aware of this until you posted it. Looks like something I'm going to have to watch.
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lolgaxe wrote:

Infinitely better than High School of the Dead, at least.


For shame, that series is so fun!
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Also, this ^


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#9 Sep 01 2010 at 1:14 AM Rating: Good
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Not that I'm trying to be graceless naysayer, but does this zombie series take the genre anywhere new? I like zombies, but I'm a little tired of the biggest innovation for each series being the method the zombies arrive, which tends to stop mattering after the exposition.


The "how" the zombies got there is never really discussed in the comics (There are theories, & a dude who says he knows what happened. But thats about it), it's more about surviving in a world full of zombies & the effect doing so has on people. All of the main characters who've survived through the 76 issues are profoundly changed physically, emotionally, & morally as well.

The Walking Dead isn't a traditional zombie flick, as it deals solely with what happens after the zombie apocalypse. Sure, there are moments of happiness. But those moments are small ones in between trying to survive day to day in a world with little to no hope.


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I think this is a good place to leave this.
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SPoiler: In The Walking Dead, not only do bites spread the disease, anyone who dies for any reason becomes a zombie. The zombies also hunt by smell. They are subject to the cold & "die" from a good head wound, though.
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This is why we need a World War Z movie. Nobody would question something like that (save for the quality of translation from paper to screen) Although Vataro's link gave me a good laugh, what with the exploding zombies which made me think of the LFD Boomers, it's still the equivalent of questioning the plausibility of Die Hard's antics with anything more than tongue in cheek commentary. Yeah, I get that being overrun by zombies would be like having the government overthrown by Alzheimers patients. You want a new spin on the zombie apocalypse? Scope out Pride and Prejudice and Zombies: Dawn of the Dreadfuls. Yeah, the book isn't new, but I bet most people haven't read it.
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HA! I was just thinking about necro posting this thread. Don't forget for anyone interested, this premiers this Sunday night, Halloween. Can't wait.
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Oh wow. Haven't seen that necropost warning tag thing before. New?
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Oh nice. Haven't seen either. That's some win right thar.
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I thought it did an incredible job of pulling the comic story into the show and adding its own spin. I thought nearly everything about this was incredible. Would have had no issue paying to see this in a theater. At least next to garbage like Diary of the Dead. Very excited for the potential of this show.
#17 Oct 31 2010 at 10:32 PM Rating: Decent
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The show was freaking amazing. Seriously it is better than 90% of zombie movies I have seen. The whole thing is filmed so well that it is honestly like watching a movie. Plus the fact that I am from Atlanta and go down the streets that it was filmed on almost daily was freaking awesome to see in the show.

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lol that should look familiar to anyone who watched the show. It is the old Norfolk Southern building in downtown Atlanta.
#18 Oct 31 2010 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
I just watched the show. It seems pretty well done. Being an hour and a half tv time which means it's what right around 1:10 play time this could turn out to be pretty good as long as they don't make it cheesy. Zombie movies are good for those couple hours of the movie but to have an on going series on zombies that over an hour each episode could go down hill pretty quickly.

Does the main character waking up in a deserted hospital, and walking out to see the town all in ruins ring a bell to anyone else?

SEE: Resident Evil
#19 Nov 01 2010 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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For a moment there, I thought you were referencing a good movie; one called 28 days later.
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#20 Nov 01 2010 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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For a moment there, I thought you were referencing a good movie; one called 28 days later.


I thought the same thing. Especially since last I checked in RE1 she woke up in a mansion, not in a hospital.
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Vataro wrote:
DarkKnightZero wrote:
For a moment there, I thought you were referencing a good movie; one called 28 days later.


I thought the same thing. Especially since last I checked in RE1 she woke up in a mansion, not in a hospital.


End of RE1 start of RE2 Alice wakes up in a hospital.
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#22 Nov 01 2010 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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this could turn out to be pretty good as long as they don't make it cheesy.
As long as it follows the comics fairly closely, and focuses more on the survivors' interactions rather than "INTENSE IN YOUR FACE ZOMBIE SCARES" it should do quite well.
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Shaowstrike, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Vataro wrote:
DarkKnightZero wrote:
For a moment there, I thought you were referencing a good movie; one called 28 days later.


I thought the same thing. Especially since last I checked in RE1 she woke up in a mansion, not in a hospital.


End of RE1 start of RE2 Alice wakes up in a hospital.


Was he not talking about the start of the first one though? =/
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Vataro wrote:
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Vataro wrote:
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For a moment there, I thought you were referencing a good movie; one called 28 days later.


I thought the same thing. Especially since last I checked in RE1 she woke up in a mansion, not in a hospital.


End of RE1 start of RE2 Alice wakes up in a hospital.


Was he not talking about the start of the first one though? =/


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Does the main character waking up in a deserted hospital, and walking out to see the town all in ruins ring a bell to anyone else?


Nope.
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#25 Nov 01 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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Vataro wrote:
Shaowstrike, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Vataro wrote:
DarkKnightZero wrote:
For a moment there, I thought you were referencing a good movie; one called 28 days later.


I thought the same thing. Especially since last I checked in RE1 she woke up in a mansion, not in a hospital.


End of RE1 start of RE2 Alice wakes up in a hospital.


Was he not talking about the start of the first one though? =/


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Does the main character waking up in a deserted hospital, and walking out to see the town all in ruins ring a bell to anyone else?


Nope.


I thought it was the first one, and I was initially referencing to the first one. I forgot that it is the end of the first, beginning of the second that someone pointed out. After they capture Alice and Matt at the end of RE1 and put Matt into the what is it Nemesis program?

EDIT: Though I guess I am correct in referencing the right movie, just not at the right place of the movie.

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I watched the first episode last night when it aired. I was impressed by the production values. I am used to seeing ABC/Fox shows, and this one was at another level, not counting the big ones like Fringe, but the production values on like... FlashFoward seemed pretty low. I asked my brother about it (he was the one who told me to tune in) and he said that AMC usually had higher quality series on it. I got to thinking, I haven't paid attention to AMC in the past. Maybe because it's not advertised on the networks I usually watch. The last one I saw an advertisement for was The Prisoner. It looked interesting, but I never tuned in.
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I just watched it today. Was kind of blown away. I was going to pass, but one of my friends really loved it, so decided to give it a try. Outside of a few exceptions, zombie movies have just become an excuse for gore and violence, but you don't have to feel guilty cause they were already dead. This is really refreshing, as most of the gore is there just to set the tone. Ok, not all of it, but most. It really felt like it was about the characters, something you rarely see in the horror genre now a days. I'm really looking forward to the second episode! I had forgotten how good survival horror could be when they remember survival horror doesn't mean mindless action.

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I just got done watching it. I liked it, but I feel kind of bummed that the entire show was spoiled by the trailers and the "making of" thing on their website. I wasn't expecting all those snips they showed to all be the same episode. I suppose it can only get better from here.
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I just got done watching it. I liked it, but I feel kind of bummed that the entire show was spoiled by the trailers and the "making of" thing on their website. I wasn't expecting all those snips they showed to all be the same episode. I suppose it can only get better from here.


Makes my glad I never watch preview stuff.
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#30 Dec 06 2010 at 5:03 AM Rating: Good
Well that certainly was a quick first season. The Walking Dead, the TV series, is quite a bit different from its comic book source material, but all in all I thought it was pretty well done. With the exception of the CDC & a few new charters it mostly followed along with what became "book 1" of the comic series. I found the two to be vastly different, however, when it came to gore. I think it's amusing the stuff I knew would be in the series didn't shock me at all when I read it (RE: Zombie Camo) in the black & white comic, yet grossed me the **** out when I saw it "for real".

"Knowing" what will essentially happen, I'm glad with the overall tone of the TV series. The group went from hopeful to finally starting to sense the hopelessness of the situation all within 6 episodes. And while the CDC part might not have been necessary, it at least gave some sort of "explanation" of how the Zombies are, ya know, Zombies which the comic hasn't ever really touched upon.

I also thought the black lady that stayed behind in the CDC may have been Michonne & am glad she wasn't. Can't wait to see her appearance walking towards the prison with her "friends" in tow.

Too bad that's going to have to wait until at least October, 2011...
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#31 Dec 06 2010 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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I'm actually glad it doesn't follow the comics too closely. It is much more enjoyable that way for someone that has been following the comics. I enjoy both spotting similarities, and at the same time I like seeing a new, even slight, twist. It really is one of the better shows in the last few years, I'd say.

I just hope they do a whole season concerning just the jail arc. I think that was the best story arc of the comics thus far.
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Whoa, wait, we have to wait until October 2011 for The Walking Dead to come back? I'm devestated and my weekend is entirely ****** now.
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I'm devestated and my weekend is entirely @#%^ed now.


How does not being able to watch something which used to come on at the very very END of the weekend destroy the entire weekend? Smiley: rolleyes
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Yup, I was ******** about that at work a few weeks ago. I couldn't wait for Sunday night because it meant Dexter and The Walking Dead, but it also meant the end of my weekend. Blah.
#35 Dec 12 2010 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
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Whoa, wait, we have to wait until October 2011 for The Walking Dead to come back? I'm devestated and my weekend is entirely @#%^ed now.


You sound like someone who needs to invest and buy the series ^-^
Then on the weekends you can read all about how they survive.
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Well, the ending was a blast!

Er, the ending was DY-NO-MITE!?

Fine, the ending was meh with explosions.

Nothing much happened. All we learn is that the zombie disease reanimates just a tiny part of the brain.

Also, CDC janitors are suicidal.

I feel like everyone in this series would be 110% better if they read WWZ. Love that book, and it offers some hope(?) and guidance to the zombie apocalypse.
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#37 Dec 16 2010 at 1:27 AM Rating: Good
This isn't WWZ though, as WWZ has a "happy" ending (They kill all the Zombies). The "reality" of The Walking Dead is that there will ALWAYS be zombies looking to eat Rick & Co. as long as they are alive, & that someday even if they're not bitten when they die they too will become Zombies.

All they can hope for are brief respites from Zombies, the characters just all haven't accepted it yet.
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This isn't WWZ though, as WWZ has a "happy" ending (They kill all the Zombies). The "reality" of The Walking Dead is that there will ALWAYS be zombies looking to eat Rick & Co. as long as they are alive, & that someday even if they're not bitten when they die they too will become Zombies.

All they can hope for are brief respites from Zombies, the characters just all haven't accepted it yet.


That's the thing though - despite the inevitable fate of undeath after death, they could carve out a little place of their own. Makes some Lobos. Make a barricade to keep out the undead, start up a nice farming community, live as hippies. Right now they're looking for other survivors and just some hope. I agree they haven't accepted that society as a whole is gone and a new world had sprung up, but hey... these are zombies. They don't move fast most of the time, they have no thinking abilities. They are dangerous just because they are tough to stop (need a headshot) and come in large numbers. Those are pretty easy problems to overcome.

Now, I haven't read many spoilers about the series, but people can still reproduce, right? As long as human kind can continue to replicate, then the species isn't dead. The undeath part is frustrating, but easy to deal with once they find out about it.
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My prediction for the words whispered to the sheriff is "Your wife is pregnant, and she didn't tell you".

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My prediction for the words whispered to the sheriff is "Your wife is pregnant, and she didn't tell you".


I didn't even think of it, but my goodness, I bet you're right.
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Now, I haven't read many spoilers about the series, but people can still reproduce, right? As long as human kind can continue to replicate, then the species isn't dead. The undeath part is frustrating, but easy to deal with once they find out about it.
Well, this is a spoiler for the comics its based on, so it will probably come up in the series, and might not, but while being able to procreate is possible, the fact of the matter is everyone is already infected, whether they're bit or not. You die, you become a zombie (unless your brain is broken, of course). So really, with all the ways to die and with how long it takes to create a baby and raise it to be able to reproduce as well ... well, human kind is pretty much *****************
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Now, I haven't read many spoilers about the series, but people can still reproduce, right? As long as human kind can continue to replicate, then the species isn't dead. The undeath part is frustrating, but easy to deal with once they find out about it.
Well, this is a spoiler for the comics its based on, so it will probably come up in the series, and might not, but while being able to procreate is possible, the fact of the matter is everyone is already infected, whether they're bit or not. You die, you become a zombie (unless your brain is broken, of course). So really, with all the ways to die and with how long it takes to create a baby and raise it to be able to reproduce as well ... well, human kind is pretty much @#%^ed.


Wouldn't the fact that humans are already infected support the idea that they could survive the horror? Assuming they manage to create a self sufficient fortress wouldn't they eventually breed an immunity to the zombification disease?
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#43 Dec 17 2010 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I didn't even think of it, but my goodness, I bet you're right.


I don't know if you're right about what he whispered, but you're right that she's pregnant & it isn't Rick's baby (if the show continues to follow the comic). That's going to put Rick through the emotional ringer yet again.

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Makes some Lobos. Make a barricade to keep out the undead, start up a nice farming community, live as hippies.


Ok, let's say you took the time to first clear an area of Zombies. To do that, you couldn't really use firearms since they'll attract more zombies. That means you have to get up close which puts people at risk so just clearing the area could result in casualties. Then, you build your barricade & start your hippy farming community. Well, it takes awhile for things to grow, so that means a lot of scavenging in order to feed the group before, during, & after starting the farm which could also lead to more casualties.

And once the farm is up & running, if other people find it they'll want in. You might let them in, or perhaps your community is full & you don't. What if they have bigger guns than you (Or a Tank)?

The Zombies may be the immediate threat, but its other people whom are the biggest threat.

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Wouldn't the fact that humans are already infected support the idea that they could survive the horror? Assuming they manage to create a self sufficient fortress wouldn't they eventually breed an immunity to the zombification disease?


Sure, it could happen over time. Over a very long time. Like, multiple generations. And even after multiple generations, perhaps it wouldn't happen. Certainly information, technology, & infrastructure would decay over this time leading to less & less chances that there could even be a cure.

Thus far, there really is only 1 "time" there's a lack of zombies in the series & that's due to winter. (Zombies freeze, then thaw out) In fact, in TWD lore Zombies don't even starve, so running out of people to eat won;t even stop them.

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Now, I haven't read many spoilers about the series, but people can still reproduce, right? As long as human kind can continue to replicate, then the species isn't dead. The undeath part is frustrating, but easy to deal with once they find out about it.
Well, this is a spoiler for the comics its based on, so it will probably come up in the series, and might not, but while being able to procreate is possible, the fact of the matter is everyone is already infected, whether they're bit or not. You die, you become a zombie (unless your brain is broken, of course). So really, with all the ways to die and with how long it takes to create a baby and raise it to be able to reproduce as well ... well, human kind is pretty much @#%^ed.


Why would you assume this? Seems like some pretty simple modifications to burial methods (ie: decapitate anyone who dies, burn the bodies just to be safe) would eliminate the problem. Zombies don't reproduce otherwise, so over time humans will win *unless* they manage to get overwhelmed during the relatively short period of time in which the actual "apocalypse" is going on.

In the long term, the zombies don't really have a chance.
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Wouldn't the fact that humans are already infected support the idea that they could survive the horror? Assuming they manage to create a self sufficient fortress wouldn't they eventually breed an immunity to the zombification disease?
I only used the word infect because it was the only word that really describes what happens. There really is no guarantee that its a disease and not voodoo magic or radiation or insect bites. So far you become a zombie whether you're bit or shot through the chest. Interesting enough, if you're quick you can avoid dying if you can remove the infected area quick enough. Like, say, cutting off a bit hand or leg.
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Seems like some pretty simple modifications to burial methods (ie: decapitate anyone who dies, burn the bodies just to be safe) would eliminate the problem.
You're assuming all the living would take the time to do that, and not just kill, take what they want, and move on. Like I said, this particular story doesn't require actual interaction with zombies for them to reproduce.
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#46 Dec 23 2010 at 1:47 AM Rating: Good
Gbaji wrote:
Why would you assume this? Seems like some pretty simple modifications to burial methods (ie: decapitate anyone who dies, burn the bodies just to be safe) would eliminate the problem. Zombies don't reproduce otherwise, so over time humans will win *unless* they manage to get overwhelmed during the relatively short period of time in which the actual "apocalypse" is going on.

In the long term, the zombies don't really have a chance.


It'd only take one person dying in their sleep inside your impenetrable fortress for another outbreak to start. Keep in mind once again that in TWD lore Zombies don't seem to starve, so every zombie that hasn't been killed by the remaining survivors is still around looking to eat more people & (Again, according to TWD lore) outnumber survivors 5,000 to 1. It'd be virtually impossible to kill all the zombies everywhere & if they start pounding on the gate of your "impenetrable" fortress, with sufficient numbers, they'll either get through or prevent you from getting out causing you to eventually starve (unless you had a farm large enough, inside, to grow enough food to get through the winter).

Then there's the whole "flocking/herd" mentality touched upon in TWD (And really fleshed out in Stephen King's Cell if you haven't read it). I wouldn't really call it intelligence, more some sort of instinct that seems to move large groups of Zombies together. If one of them starts pounding on the door of your fortress, it'll eventually attract the rest!

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Then there's the whole "flocking/herd" mentality touched upon in TWD (And really fleshed out in Stephen King's Cell if you haven't read it).


That was a pretty good story. I have to go back and read it. The ending was pretty brutal, basically the same as "The Mist" (the book, not the movie), where the feeling you get is, "Maybe I have a chance, but more likely I'm screwed."
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#48 Dec 23 2010 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
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That was a pretty good story.


Working 2 blocks from where the protagonist is when the zombie apocalypse happens made it pretty special to me.

But I agree, while I don't need a happy ending to be satisfied, the whole last quarter or so was kind of weak.
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