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#1 Mar 28 2010 at 10:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Escaflowne (watched like the first 2 episodes a long time ago, figured I'd actually watch it all the way through this time)
Baccano!
Eden of the East
ef - A tale of memories

The last 2 selections brought to you by the animenewsnetwork Top 50 list. Looking forward to seeing if they live up to their ratings. Smiley: tongue
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#2 Mar 28 2010 at 11:04 PM Rating: Good
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Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Escaflowne (watched like the first 2 episodes a long time ago, figured I'd actually watch it all the way through this time)

I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Dilandau is perhaps my favorite anime character.
#3 Mar 28 2010 at 11:40 PM Rating: Good
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Baccano! is great. I haven't watched any of the others.

I'm taking a little break from anime, after my Railgun+Index marathon.

I'll probably watch Kino's Journey next, by recommendation of Allegory (and later Manosuke).
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#4 Mar 29 2010 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
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The middle two I've been considering watching. Been rewatching Prince of Tennis, and did not realize that pretty much every character is angry in one way or another. Detective Conan, I don't like taking large leaps between episodes which is why I haven't continued with it.

The next new anime I've been wanting to watch is Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto.
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#5 Mar 29 2010 at 2:42 AM Rating: Decent
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The movie is better than the series.
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#6 Mar 29 2010 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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Baccano! is great. I haven't watched any of the others.

I'm taking a little break from anime, after my Railgun+Index marathon.

I'll probably watch Kino's Journey next, by recommendation of Allegory (and later Manosuke).


I almost downloaded Kino's Journey as well (it was next on the list), but decided to stick with these for now. I may have to go back and download it to make sure it stays next on the list Smiley: tongue.
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Baccano is pretty good.

I still have mix feeling about Higashi no Eden. I didn't like the ending.

Haven't seen the other 2



Edit: Kino's Journey is totally worth watching

Edited, Mar 29th 2010 5:07pm by feelz
#8 Mar 29 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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I still have mix feeling about Higashi no Eden. I didn't like the ending.


Have you seen both the movies? If not it's not over yet, they made that fairly well known. Higashi no Eden was easily one of the better series released in the last year, easily in the top 5 of 2009.

Baccano is excellent.

Escaflowne was fairly good.

Ef-<insert subtitle here> Shaft has done better, much better.
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Have you seen both the movies?


No I haven't. I enjoyed it a lot until the end. kinda felt like a rip-off of code geass

I guess I'll give the movie a try.
#10 Mar 30 2010 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Just started watching Eden of the East. Not too shabby.
#11 Mar 30 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Good
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The movie is better than the series.

I strongly disagree, but I suppose in this case it can be legitimately attributed to taste.

The movie has better music and a higher percentage of action, but I like the shoujo-shounen blend of the tv series and the condensed story telling (originally 52 episodes were planned, which was then shrunk to 39).
#12 Mar 31 2010 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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I started Baccano! last night, and so far find it pretty entertaining. The storytelling is interesting (constant jumping back and forth between people and time periods), but I think I've gotten used to it.
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Baccano! is great if you can deal with the jumping back and forth (some people just don't like that style of storytelling).

Escaflowne was one of the very first series I ever watched. Haven't watched it in a while, but it was definitely pretty good, better than the movie.

Eden was good. I still need to watch the movies though.

ef was ok. I liked memories better than melodies.

I don't know about the ANN top 50 list. Clannad AS as #1? Really? I'm not sure that's even in my top 10, or 20.
#14 Apr 01 2010 at 1:45 AM Rating: Good
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I don't trust the Top (anything) on many sites. Some may belong there, but a lot more don't.

Clannad: After Story was good, but not anywhere near the top 50 of anime.
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#15 Apr 04 2010 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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Baccano! was enjoyable. Now to decide what to watch next... probably Escaflowne.
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#16 Apr 05 2010 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
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Wrong thread, wrong forum lulz.

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#17 Apr 05 2010 at 9:41 PM Rating: Good
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I did enjoy Escaflowne a lot... and I can see why Allegory likes Dilandau.
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If you liked Baccano! you might like Durararara!!(probly to many rara's) it's made by the same people and it's kinda got the large amount of character thing going.
#19 Apr 06 2010 at 4:47 AM Rating: Good
The entire Escaflowne series is simply a set up for the next time a cat girl can yell "VVVVVVAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNN!"

The movie does it only once, methinks. The movie is darker, animated better, has a better soundtrack, & has one of the coolest opening scenes out of any anime.

Sure, a lot is lost in the translation, but the good stuff from the series is all there.

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#20 Apr 06 2010 at 7:11 AM Rating: Good
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I actually didn't realize there was a movie... will have to watch that tonight. Then I think I'll do Eden of the East next since that seems better from what some of you are saying. Smiley: smile
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I watched the first episode of Eden of the East last night, and I wasn't really impressed. I'll reserve judgement for now though. But I hate the character art for the main characters.
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#22 Apr 06 2010 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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I guess I'll be watching Angel Beats! every week. It's hard to see where it's going (only one episode has aired), but it's something to watch.

I'm not sure yet if it's going to have a solid plot, or if it's just going to be a Haruhi clone (with some twists).

Edited, Apr 6th 2010 9:14am by Kirby
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#23 Apr 09 2010 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
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Just watched episode two of Angel Beats!, I lol'ed a lot in the first half, and then it got all serious business on me during the second half.

...So I'm still not quite sure where or how this anime is going to develop the plot.
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#24 Apr 14 2010 at 6:07 AM Rating: Good
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Are animes different from regular cartoons in terms of social status? You guys keep saying 'I hope you enjoy it' and 'I enjoyed it' like it's a meal or an opera. We're talking about cartoons, right?

I rather enjoyed Johnny Bravo last night, but where's the thread about him?

Yes, I'm blatantly oblivious to the whole anime fetish thing so please don't have me.
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Are animes different from regular cartoons in terms of social status? You guys keep saying 'I hope you enjoy it' and 'I enjoyed it' like it's a meal or an opera. We're talking about cartoons, right?

I rather enjoyed Johnny Bravo last night, but where's the thread about him?

Yes, I'm blatantly oblivious to the whole anime fetish thing so please don't have me.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnimationAgeGhetto

I had to deal with a lot of people thinking I was silly for my cartoon viewing habits as I got older. Statements like "Wouldn't you rather be watching Seinfeld instead of the Simpsons? You're not a kid anymore." and whatnot were pretty common. That kind of thing didn't stop until I started getting into anime with some friends from high school. So I'll always have a soft spot for anime.

Add in that culturally, it's still like that around here to a degree. Cartoons are becoming more present in adult society, but for the most part are still only the realm of comedy(and some shock cartoons), where in anime you often have a variety of types of shows. It's a lot easier to have a conversation, at least for me, about a show that tells a continuous story than one that's made mostly of throwaway gags or single episodes where nothing is changed once it's over. There are some shows where you get that sort of thing, but they're mostly marketed to kids and the adults watching them are just a periphery demographic(Ben 10 is one that comes to mind).

And some of us just love us some fan-servicey Japanese cartoons. Smiley: tongue

Add in the fact that Johnny Bravo is kinda old and that's why he doesn't get a thread(also, you want one, start it, dammit!).
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And some of us just love us some fan-servicey Japanese cartoons.


I wholeheartedly endorse this.
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Poldaran made me late this morning by linking TVTropes >:(.
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Mazra wrote:
Are animes different from regular cartoons in terms of social status? You guys keep saying 'I hope you enjoy it' and 'I enjoyed it' like it's a meal or an opera. We're talking about cartoons, right?
Well, many anime series actually have a plot, and character development.

Not all do, like "slice of life" and many comedy series, which would be more like cartoons airing here.
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Many of them have plots more engaging and intricate than anything on American TV. That's not to say all of them do, and very rarely is it anything close to being realistic (but really, a lot of popular shows now aren't either... Lost, 24, etc.), but I can easily say most of my favorite anime are those that I simply could not stop watching because I had to see what happened next.
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Also, I have added Strike Witches to my list due to the other thread.
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Strike Witches was ok.
It could have been better, maybe with a little less focus on fan service Smiley: lol

Man, K-on!! (season 2) is too **** cute. I bet one of the guys working on the show has a PhD in Cutesy/Moeblob.
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Other than cute, how is it as a serie?
#33 Apr 14 2010 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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It's nearly plot-less, with minimal character development. So don't start watching K-on expecting an awesome story or anything.

It's basically slice of life, with cute factor turned up. I lol'd quite a bit during episode 2 of this season.

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Mazra wrote:
Are animes different from regular cartoons in terms of social status? You guys keep saying 'I hope you enjoy it' and 'I enjoyed it' like it's a meal or an opera. We're talking about cartoons, right?

Sometimes I forget how little people understand about anime, not to be rude to you. Jophiel, for instance, is someone who I'd consider an intelligent person who isn't one to make grand assumptions, but even he thought that anime is mostly fantasy or scifi. I think it's important to understand that most everything you know about anime is probably based on the bottom of the barrel materiel. The cheapest alcohols are also the ones most wildly sampled. If I used Coors as a representive of beer, Sora/HAllertau would gut me where I stand.

Anime isn't a genre, but a medium. It covers a lot of materiel, good and bad. And while there are many characteristics that tend to appear often, it isn't defined by any one of these.

There are several common features where anime differes from western television that I tend to like and believe are good qualities.

1. Continuity. Even the best of western televisions tend to have very weak continuity, and even the worst Japanese animations tend to have a fair amount of it. Most western shows tend to have an "episode of the day" plot with some minor overall story in the background. More recently western television has been getting better at this, but now they tend to divide a show into "a plots" and "b plots" with half the show being episodic and the other half being continuous, but the two totally unrelated. For example House will usually have two plots going on in any given episode, there is the story revolving around the specific case and then there is the overarching story about the characters, but the two rarely touch. In many animes, the main story is completely continuous. A 26 episode series is like a 13 hour movie broken down into watchable chunks. It's not always a good movie granted. I think continuity improves the quality of many of the shows.

2. Screening. Many western shows are usually written specifically for TV. Anime on the other hand, tends to be adaptations from comics, light novels, or books. Ultimately what ends up becoming an anime is something that is viewed as profitable and not necessarily good, but the two often share some overlap. This extra filter helps screen out the truly terrible ideas that otherwise would have been made into western shows. It also gives access to a large number of very well written stories.

3. The Japanese have different sensibilities. I don't care whether overall one might consider them better or worse, but they are different which interests me. If you see a paedophile character in western television, then the vast majority of the time he/she is there for shock value and audience exploitation. In a japanese anime there are severals reasons he/she could be there, it could be for pure audience exploitation, it could be as a low brow comedic character, or this individual could even be a real character with depth. The point is that the Japanese are willing to explore possibilities western television is not. You get to see ideas that western television just wouldn't show.



To be terse, I watch anime because it offers me something better than western television. There are tons of **** anime out there, but pretty much all of western television is shiz, and the best anime has to other trumps the best western television has to offer.
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Escaflowne is one of the Great classics of anime. It was the first Anime DVD I ever got. The salesman at Anime nation sent it to me to play in my new computer's dvd player. He said. "You'll never go back to Vhs after watching the first DVD" It was so awsome with the dragon fight.
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#36 Apr 18 2010 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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Strike Witches was ok.
It could have been better, maybe with a little less focus on fan service Smiley: lol


You missed the point. Strike Witches was made for fan service, everything else was created to facilitate that. It accomplished it's goal well, something something uncensored episode seven.

And for the love of god, WHY NO PANTS?!
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I thought I made my point clear, lol.

You know, maybe not create a show for the fan service and build around it. But I guess it has a large market.
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Strike Witches was ok. I don't generally care about fan service, but the plot, while nothing special, didn't disappoint me.

The Escaflowne movie was not what I expected. I didn't really care for it, possibly because I did not realize it was not a continuation of the series but an alternate telling.
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And for the love of god, WHY NO PANTS?!


Do not ask yourself why the girls of Strike Witches do not wear pants. Ask yourself why girls everywhere else do. Smiley: nod


Edit: Oh, and since I have to post it somewhere on this site or I'll asplode...Maria Watches Over Us Season 4 is finally coming out in July! Smiley: yippee

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And Seto no Hanayome(My Bride is a Mermaid is the English release title) is coming out around then as well! Smiley: yippee

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There are tons of **** anime out there, but pretty much all of western television is shiz, and the best anime has to other trumps the best western television has to offer.


Depends on what you seek in television, I guess. Thanks for the quick summary, though.

I have never read anime, but I have watched some, with varying degrees of success. I enjoyed Avatar, but the comedy sort of ruined the story for me. Which is the first on my list of reasons why I believe I don't get anime.

1. Humor. Mainly because Asian countries seem to run with a completely different sense of humor than at least me. They seem to fancy the 'fall on your ass' sense of humor and I haven't been into that since around fifth grade. Either a character says or does something, usually to a pretty girl, which backfires onto him in some way, and his utter lack of being able to make up snazzy comebacks on the go makes him grin madly while blushing and sweating. Charming, but not very funny.

2. Facial expressions. I mentioned it briefly in the previous point, but anime drawers seem to want to exaggerate everything about a character's facial expression. If they blush, they don't just turn pink, they turn tomato red, sometimes even blue/black(?) and start to sweat heavily, all while trying to deflect the shame with a facial expression that somewhat resembles xD, but with teeth visible. As well-drawn as animes can get, it seems like facial expressions were last on the budget list, or maybe not. I don't know, I just know it looks silly.

3. Avantgarde or crazy? A lot of animes feature some sequences wherein the viewer is bombarded with audio-visual stimuli through crazy electronic sounds accompanied by a character yelling and/or flashy colors. Lots of flashy colors. Sometimes enough flashy colors to make me think that either the drawers were using illicit substances during the coloring process, or that Asian people are mildly colorblind in general. On the more detailed animes, these crazy scenes are often replaced by a very hallucinogenic dream scene where crazy stuff happens.

4. Voice-overs. Most of the animes I've enjoyed have been dubbed ones. There's something about the Japanese language that just seems... angry. Constantly. Either they're yelling at each other like they're severely **** off, or they're just yelling like they're deaf. Seriously, the dB in some scenes makes an F-16 firing up sound meek. If you've ever heard an F-16 firing up its engine, you'd know how serious I am about it. It seems like when they're surprised, they draw out their vowels for too long. Gasping, panting and moaning sounds like they're reaching sexual climax every single time. It was hot at first, but not so much now.

There are animes I've enjoyed, like Avatar and Paprika, but it definitely hasn't been the epiphany that others seem to have received. Maybe it's because I'm from that last generation that avoided the whole Pokémon era. Maybe it's just because my sense of humor is different (I know it is, it ties into my nationality). I consider anime to be cartoons and that's why I was so curious to see people talk about it as if it was finer art.

Maybe anime is good simply because it's anime? It's cult?

Hopefully I didn't come off as demeaning or condescending. I'm more curious than anything, really.

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I enjoyed Avatar
Not anime.

Nothing wrong with the show, but it isn't. It definitely tries to absorb it though. As for your four points:

1) Not all anime is humorous in the first place, and most of the more enjoyable series I've watched haven't been humorous. That's just me. As for what you're talking about, a portion of anime is like that I suppose. If you don't like it, don't watch it, I guess.

2) Yeah, western animation never exaggerates facial expressions. If you don't like it, fine. It's mostly just a stylistic tradition.

3) I agree for the most part if you're watching the kind of shows you talked about from your first point. I typically don't watch intros. Mainly because they're often 90 seconds long though, and often tie in characters and events from the entire season, even starting from episode 1. If you don't like the intro, skip to 1:30.

4) There are very few dubbed shows that really sounded right. Dubbing is difficult to do. I'm content with subs. I'm not sure what the f*ck you've watched that gave you that impression though. I honestly don't know what you're talking about on the volume point.

I don't think of anime as some sort of finer art than a cartoon, it's just the name given for a different stile of animation. There are several shows that I've deeply enjoyed, there are a lot that suck. I guess the recurring theme is that if it doesn't appeal to you, don't watch it. It's definitely not good just because it's anime.

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This seems to pretty accurate to me. I'm genuinely curious as to what you've watched that had given you these impressions, especially for point #4, because I really don't have any clue where you're coming from.



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Definitely need someone else to truly comment on your post, but here are mine (and they are just comments, no flaming intended):

Avatar is, I believe, a western attempt at anime. I've never seen it, so I can't be sure. I do hear it's good, but I'm not sure I would call it truly anime.

I'm curious to know what other anime you have actually seen, because from my experiences your points (1) and (3) do not really apply to the majority of anime out there.

As for the voice-overs, I guess that's just a matter of opinion. I find english voice-overs to 95% of the time be absolute crap. They overdo inflections and emotion in their voice much more than the Japanese voice actors, at least from my experience. Maybe my inexperience with the Japanese language as a whole is a large factor there, I'm not sure. Or maybe I've just gotten used to it? It's interesting to see the thoughts of someone who is not very familiar with anime, as it brings a very different perspective.

As for the volume comment... turn the volume down? I've never experienced this problem. When they seem to be yelling is only when they are actually yelling, at least to me... and even then the actual volume is not in any way distressing to me. Maybe I just don't watch things at the volume you do?

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That was so not a double! I saw your first post after I posted mine, and your second one came 10 minutes later! =P
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Watch something like Mushishi if you want a "finer art" or Kara no Kyoukai.
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Pretty sure that falls under the "flashy and overly colorful" category.
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That particulare scene, I suppose.
Maybe Mazra just needs to know what he likes in Western shows/movies, and look for the same kind of stuff in anime.

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That was so not a double! I saw your first post after I posted mine, and your second one came 10 minutes later! =P
I was editing the first post, but since when you edit you can't see other people's posts, I copied what I had written before, then went to reply again so I could see the four points listed. Then the instant I hit 'post message' I realized that's not what I was originally aiming to do. Smiley: frown
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Vataro wrote:
That was so not a double! I saw your first post after I posted mine, and your second one came 10 minutes later! =P
I was editing the first post, but since when you edit you can't see other people's posts, I copied what I had written before, then went to reply again so I could see the four points listed. Then the instant I hit 'post message' I realized that's not what I was originally aiming to do. Smiley: frown


That makes more sense :P.
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#50 Apr 20 2010 at 4:52 PM Rating: Good
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1. Humor. Mainly because Asian countries seem to run with a completely different sense of humor than at least me. They seem to fancy the 'fall on your ass' sense of humor and I haven't been into that since around fifth grade. Either a character says or does something, usually to a pretty girl, which backfires onto him in some way, and his utter lack of being able to make up snazzy comebacks on the go makes him grin madly while blushing and sweating. Charming, but not very funny.

Most of this comes back to bad anime. Pick a western sitcom at random; what is the likelihood it will have quality humor? There are a lot of comedic animes out there that just aren't funny, just like western television.

Some of it has to do with cultural references that don't make sense to foreign audiences.

Some of it has to do with different visual cues used in teh cultures. Bleeding from the mouth is often used in western television (and somewhat in anime) to indicate severe injury, even if such a wound wouldn't normally cause bleeding from the mouth. A **** nose is used to indicate arousal in many anime, and jokes that play off this point require an understanding of this superstition/belief.
Mazra wrote:
2. Facial expressions. I mentioned it briefly in the previous point, but anime drawers seem to want to exaggerate everything about a character's facial expression. If they blush, they don't just turn pink, they turn tomato red, sometimes even blue/black(?) and start to sweat heavily, all while trying to deflect the shame with a facial expression that somewhat resembles xD, but with teeth visible. As well-drawn as animes can get, it seems like facial expressions were last on the budget list, or maybe not. I don't know, I just know it looks silly.

When overdone, usually evident of--again--bad anime.

However, you should know that a lot of anime has influences from early western animations. Those Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, and Roadrunner cartoons where characters expression and behaviors are hugely exaggerated.
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3. Avantgarde or crazy? A lot of animes feature some sequences wherein the viewer is bombarded with audio-visual stimuli through crazy electronic sounds accompanied by a character yelling and/or flashy colors. Lots of flashy colors. Sometimes enough flashy colors to make me think that either the drawers were using illicit substances during the coloring process, or that Asian people are mildly colorblind in general. On the more detailed animes, these crazy scenes are often replaced by a very hallucinogenic dream scene where crazy stuff happens.

There is nothing that can be said to defend this. The Japanese are fudging crazy. The Gainax staff probably woke up one day in a hotel room to find 3 empty bags of coke, 2 dead hookers, and 1 script for Evangelion.
Mazra wrote:
4. Voice-overs. Most of the animes I've enjoyed have been dubbed ones. There's something about the Japanese language that just seems... angry. Constantly. Either they're yelling at each other like they're severely **** off, or they're just yelling like they're deaf. Seriously, the dB in some scenes makes an F-16 firing up sound meek. If you've ever heard an F-16 firing up its engine, you'd know how serious I am about it. It seems like when they're surprised, they draw out their vowels for too long. Gasping, panting and moaning sounds like they're reaching sexual climax every single time. It was hot at first, but not so much now.

I've never noticed anything like that. Japanese is another language though, so it is going to sound different.
Mazra wrote:
Maybe anime is good simply because it's anime? It's cult?

Those people definitely exist, and I loathe them greatly. Those are Otaku.

Mazra wrote:
There are animes I've enjoyed, like Avatar and Paprika, but it definitely hasn't been the epiphany that others seem to have received. Maybe it's because I'm from that last generation that avoided the whole Pokémon era. Maybe it's just because my sense of humor is different (I know it is, it ties into my nationality). I consider anime to be cartoons and that's why I was so curious to see people talk about it as if it was finer art.

I think it has largely to do with two factors.

1. You're probably seeing lots of garbage. I know this is the kind of excuse that can be easily overused to defend anything, but most of the anime that gets exported is the anime that sells well to one of two demographics. Either it's targeted to kids (the obvious pokemon, digimon, etc.) or it's targeted to Otaku who will buy anything with the word Japanese on it. This is because most western adults hold the view that comics and cartoons are for kids; so the result is that more mature series are not often exported.

2. Some of it is acquired taste. I don't want to sound overly fancy, but the most accurate phrase I can think of is that "you need to develop your palate." Your first time trying anything, even if it's the best that category has to offer, probably isn't going to allow you to appreciate or even like it. This Streetfighter video may look somewhat impressive knowing nothing about SF, but it becomes even more impressive when you understand the mechanics of the game.
#51 Apr 20 2010 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
This Streetfighter video may look somewhat impressive knowing nothing about SF, but it becomes even more impressive when you understand the mechanics of the game.
God, no matter how many times I watch that clip, I get amped every single time. So f*cking crazy.
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