Alice in WonderlandFollow

I plan to go see it tonight.

From what I understand it is a telling of when Alice goes back to visit.
So I'll get back to ya on if I liked it or not.

Yes it's actually an adaptation of Carroll's second novel of the series, Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There, I did question why they called it Alice in Wonderland when that was the first book.

I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people wouldn't know about the other books :)

Honestly, until this post I didn't realize there was ever a second book.

And they have a good point, Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There is way too long for a title. But Through the Looking Glass loses the audience that hasn't read the book (because my interest was first piqued by the idea of Burton doing an AiWL remake). What Alice Found There is closer, but still not close enough to keep that audience.

Just calling it Alice in Wonderland ensures the audience interest and it really isn't a huge sacrifice.

You didn't leave with the mind set "I should walk my own path, and not that of what others would have me"?

I liked it. I really need to find my old books and re-read them. Alice and Oz were fav child stories.
My mother enjoyed it too, and that is cool because she (and my Father) is really hard to please with movies.

Now to wait for the Dreamworks Dragon movie..it looks cool.

I enjoyed it a lot. "Is she the right Alice?" was such a piquant question. As in "Is Alice letting herself be the person she wants to be?"

The costuming and art direction was gorgeous. Alice was a babe, even if rather a flat chested 19.

As a psychological allegory I loved it. Sometimes, just sometimes, at the appropriate time, you just have to take someone's head off. And you have to be strong enough to face the overwhelming big nasties of the world. But it's all about balance.

All the best people are bonkers, even if they are often sad inside themselves.

Indiscriminate cruelty will just get you unloved and surrounded by lying sycophants.

I loved the wafty, peace-loving white queen who paradoxically, while not being able to bear harming the living, thrived on harvesting the dead. And there is that great paradox of Ghandi, Trippitaka, and Dr Who like pacifists. If their enemies will attack them murderously even in the face of their pacifism, then someone (something) else has to step forward and do the dirty work for them.

What really made the books good was the way everything was referencing something in real life and mirrored how one should act and conduct one's self. The books seem weird at a surface level but you need to delve deeper than that to get any real meaning out of them. The same can be said for the movie. There were so many things especially the "Right Alice" thing that Ari pointed out, that had some ulterior meaning; those were the purpose of the movie as much as they were the purpose of the books. Even though the books used completely different imagery and allusions to reach different moral conclusions



Yes, indeed she is and yes indeed it does.


Edited, Mar 16th 2010 2:53pm by Manosuke

There's some pretty dark stuff in that movie. For example, in the Red Queen's first scene, we see her Spoilerorder a starving man executed for eating, and then she makes plans to devour his surviving children. Imagine that the talking animals are replaced with humans and you see them being treated they way they are in the movie; it's pretty horrific.

I loved the Mad Hatter. And there were two really serious and tragic aspects to his relationship to Alice in the movie. Firstly he gave strong hints later on of being one sidedly in love with her, and despairing over it always being the wrong timing: either she was too small, or too large for him. They were never the same in the same place and time.

Secondly he was the one character that questioned if he was a figment of her imagination, and he despaired of the oblivion he would be consigned to when she went away and returned to consciousness.

And so he could Futterwacken off in front of a worldwide audience.

I got bored and wandered back in to this forum, sorry. I tried to stick to the front page at least.