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#1 Oct 06 2009 at 7:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Occasionally I like to do random searches. I'm not entirely sure why I like to, but I do. This morning it was a search for upcoming movies. Now, I knew this movie was going to happen eventually. It happened for Mike and Jason, so obviously Freddy was going to get the same treatment.

I must say, initially I was quite excited. I've never hidden the fact that I'm a huge fan of campy horror flicks. The cheesier the better. Granted, I'm sure this will be similar to the first movie of the legendary series, in that it'll be pretty much serious business. That's not a bad thing, I remember when I first saw the first Nightmare movie I didn't sleep for a week. Okay, I was like six (FYI: I didn't see it when it first came out. I was 2 when it did.), but still.

So I did a little reading into this. First, it isn't being written by Wes Craven, which is a real shock to me. I mean, the man invented Freddy, and now he isn't involved? It comes as no shock that he's not entirely happy about his baby being taken from him.

Not only that, but Robert Englund isn't playing Freddy. Another shame, really. I can't think of anyone that could get the mannerisms down, considering Englund played the role through 8 movies and a 40 episode TV series. The new Krueger is being played by Jackie Earle Haley, who's only role I recognize is Rorschach from The Watchmen. Frankly, he's got large shoes to fill as far as I'm concerned.

In fact, I don't recognize any of the actors, or the director, which isn't such a bad thing. Everyone needs a place to start off, and a Nightmare movie is a pretty good place to start. It'll be an uphill battle for them, as the roles they are taking over are pretty legendary, but for a movie like this I'm willing to give them a chance. And hey, its where Johnny Depp got his start, and he seems to be doing pretty well now, right?

I don't know what to think about it. On one hand, the very soul of the series is going to be missing: No Robert Englund or Wes Craven. On the other hand, everyone other than Freddy is essentially B rated in Hollywood. I'm not saying they're all new, but they're not Grade A Hollywood Must Haves either. This might (a huge might) breathe some new air to a pretty stagnant pool.

In the end, I'll see it. I don't care how old I get, or how far removed I am from that initial shock I had when I was six, not being able to sleep for a week from the scare. I know it'll chill me, just the idea that I could go to sleep one moment and then die the next. Its like childhood trauma, it just doesn't go away. I'm hoping, BEYOND HOPE, that my daughter doesn't aspire to be a singer. I still get chills down my spine when I hear little girls singing.

One, two, Freddy's coming for you...

Edited, Oct 6th 2009 11:42am by lolgaxe
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#2 Oct 06 2009 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not only that, but Robert Englund isn't playing Freddy. Another shame, really. I can't think of anyone that could get the mannerisms down, considering Englund played the role through 8 movies and a 40 episode TV series. The new Krueger is being played by Jackie Earle Haley, who's only role I recognize is Rorschach from The Watchmen. Frankly, he's got large shoes to fill as far as I'm concerned.


Large they are, I don't think he will pull it off. But he might. Englund is Freddy, I wonder what he has to say about the new movie.

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I remember when I first saw the first Nightmare movie I didn't sleep for a week. Okay, I was like six (FYI: I didn't see it when it first came out. I was 2 when it did.), but still.


Movies like the 1st Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Friday the 13th, and Child's Play warped my poor little mind when I was a kid. I had some serious issues due to seeing these movies.

I like remakes (of horror films), because sometimes they end up being better - story wise, visually, sound.
And sometimes they are not.
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#3 Oct 06 2009 at 9:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Movies like the 1st Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Friday the 13th, and Child's Play warped my poor little mind when I was a kid. I had some serious issues due to seeing these movies.


Oh holy crap, THIS. I was traumatized when I saw this movie as an 8-year old. I didn't get over it until I was like 10 or 11. I had a dream with Chucky, where I found out that his life's ambition was actually not gruesome murder, but to tap-dance. So I taught him how (in my dream I knew how, I guess), and we became friends, and to repay me he promised to never visit me again.

The little **** lied, but none of the other dreams with him were nightmares.

My unconscious mind works is VERY odd ways.
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#4 Oct 06 2009 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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Movies like the 1st Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Friday the 13th, and Child's Play warped my poor little mind when I was a kid. I had some serious issues due to seeing these movies.


Oh holy crap, THIS. I was traumatized when I saw this movie as an 8-year old. I didn't get over it until I was like 10 or 11. I had a dream with Chucky, where I found out that his life's ambition was actually not gruesome murder, but to tap-dance. So I taught him how (in my dream I knew how, I guess), and we became friends, and to repay me he promised to never visit me again.

The little **** lied, but none of the other dreams with him were nightmares.

My unconscious mind works is VERY odd ways.


That actually is indeed very odd! Even for an unconscious mind lol!


I never had real nightmares because of movies like this, but I did have problems sleeping after a couple of them, I remember that the first time I saw "The Ring" I did feel a bit anxious afterwards.

I suppose I was too young when I saw "Nightmare on Elm Street" to be bothered like this. The song has always stuck with me though, truly creepy tune.

I haven't bothered with any of the horror remakes, perhaps I'm just too old now, but I have no desire to see a remake of any of the old (and often very enjoyable) horror movies.

Although a remake of "Shocker" would be nice, perhaps they could improve on that one. I oddly enough had good memories of that movie, untill I saw it again recently. Great song, but lousy story.
#5 Oct 06 2009 at 2:58 PM Rating: Excellent
Child's Play gave me the big "scare".

I was probably between 5 and 6, my father was watching it and told me "stay in your play room (yea, I had a room just for my toys when I was a kid. And then a bed room), this movie is scary."

Me being a "big boy" I sat and watched it. After the movie was over, I was a little antsy. I hid all my stuffed animal toys that were "looking at me".
A family friend came over and, at the time, her son was my Best Friend. I was asked if I wanted to go to a carnival and spend the night.

Me being me, I was totally for it.

Well me get there and I had to use the restroom. It being a carnival, they only had Johnny on the Spots/Outhouse (I have a thing about public bathrooms, but that is another story). Well I go in, do my thing, and go to get out.

The door won't unlock.

I start beating on the door, to get the people outside to help. Door won't unlock.
I start freaking out, thinking Chucky is coming to get me, going to pop out from the **** Or climb in from the top.
FREAKING OUT, people outside were able to get someone with a key (or something) to unlock the door.

Turns out there was a sign on it "Do not lock". Yea, guess who couldn't read it because the sign was above me head?

Worst Night Ever.

All my issues are like this, I never actually have Nightmares, I just get freaked out and can't sleep until my body passes out XD
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#6 Oct 06 2009 at 8:54 PM Rating: Excellent
Jackie Earl Haley made a great pedophile in Little Children, so I'd suspect his Freddy to be genuinely creepy, as opposed to Englund's "campy" creep.

Honestly, the remakes of Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead (Skip the "Day of the Dead" remake. Trust me), the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, & Halloween were quite good & genuinely scary (I admit to not seeing the Friday the 13th remake, so I can't judge) & I don't think they take anything away from the originals.

Now, the director has mostly done music videos which I would normally say doesn't qualify him for much. However, he has directed quite a few iconic videos for Garbage, Marilyn Manson, the Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica, & David Bowie. One of the writers hasn't done a whole lot I recognize (but is also working on a remake of The Thing, which I really feel doesn't need to be remade as it's perfect the way it is) but the other, Wesley Strick, wrote Arachnophobia & Cape Fear. However, he also wrote the Doom screenplay. Meh.

I think a pedo Jackie Earl Haley with finger claws & burn scars could be pretty scary though, but it remains to be seen.
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In fact, I don't recognize any of the actors, or the director, which isn't such a bad thing.


Michael Bay; the same guy that made transformers. He is pretty well known for always using a lot of special effects and explosions.
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#8 Oct 07 2009 at 3:48 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
In fact, I don't recognize any of the actors, or the director, which isn't such a bad thing.


Michael Bay; the same guy that made transformers. He is pretty well known for always using a lot of special effects and explosions.
You sure its Micheal Bay himself? I looked it up on IMDB and it says Samual Bayer (Who's credits are a bunch of band music videos and dvds) is the director. I think it is just Micheal Bay's production company, not Bay himself.

Kind of hope not; I can't see a bunch of explosions in a Freddy movie.
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I think a @#%^ Jackie Earl Haley with finger claws & burn scars could be pretty scary though, but it remains to be seen.
He looks good in the trailer, and I thought he did Rorschach REALLY well in the Watchmen movie (yes, the only place I've ever seen him), so my hopes are high with him. I hope he does his own thing, instead of trying to emulate Englund. Jason and Myers are easy characters to duplicate. You walk, and stabby cutty. There wasn't really much to them, but Freddy is on another level. He's got a personality. That's what I'll be looking for. Him trying to act like Englund act like Freddy is going to be a huge turn off for me.

Also, this is slated to be a trilogy, and I spent all night trying to figure out if the following two are going to be their own story, or if they're going to make other volumes of the original series. If they continue with the remakes, I'd imagine it'd be at least the third one, because it has the same woman as the first (Nancy), and I'd like the fifth movie because that one kind of went into Freddy's past.

Edit: Oh, and Freddy wasn't a pedo. He was a serial child murderer. Smiley: motz

Edited, Oct 7th 2009 8:46am by lolgaxe
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#9 Oct 07 2009 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
I was never able to get into any of those movies. They just never really appealed to me.

That being said, why are people excited to see that no one in Hollywood is coming up with anything even slightly original and are instead continuing to make bad remakes of less than amazing movies?
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I was never able to get into any of those movies. They just never really appealed to me.

That being said, why are people excited to see that no one in Hollywood is coming up with anything even slightly original and are instead continuing to make bad remakes of less than amazing movies?


They're redoing Predator too apparently, but then what movie isn't considered for redoing? I'm betting on a remake of The Godfather within ten years!
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I'd rather Hollywood try to remake movies I already enjoyed than to make yet another Fast and the Furious or Saw 987342.
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#12 Oct 08 2009 at 5:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd rather Hollywood try to remake movies I already enjoyed than to make yet another Fast and the Furious or Saw 987342.


-.-

I saw the 1st one. Liked it.
Went and saw #2, was ok.

wtf is up with this series? I thought #5 was suppose to be The End?
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#13 Oct 08 2009 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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wtf is up with this series? I thought #5 was suppose to be The End?


I had always heard that they were going to go up to 7.
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#15 Oct 08 2009 at 1:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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wtf is up with this series? I thought #5 was suppose to be The End?


I had always heard that they were going to go up to 7.


I see. I remember when 5 came out last year, the commercial said "See how it ends".

And then over the summer, what is this! A Saw VI preview . . .
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I fell in love with the first Saw movie. The whole idea behind it was brilliant. A man on his death bed, punishing people who are throwing away a gift that he's about to lose. If they survive, they're instilled with a greater appreciation of what they were taking for granted; A near death experience does this, I have personal experience on that myself.

The thing about it, it was a believable motive because Jigsaw was on the verge of death. The more movies they make, the less believable the motive becomes. Granted, I haven't seen the last one, and have no intentions of seeing the next one either, so I might be missing something, but the longer he lives the less the series is worth.

Horror movies, in general, have short shelf lives when it comes to interest. The longer the series/franchise goes, the less interesting it is. It happened to Freddy (though, changing him from serious to goofy made him more interesting), Jason, Micheal, and even Pinhead. I hate how Hollywood finds a good villain and ends up driving them into the ground.

Gremlins did it right.
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I saw the trailer when I went to see Zombieland, and I hope they fix the new Krueger's face. He looks more like a lizard then a horrible burn victim; I can see Jackie Earle Haley making a good Freddy though.
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