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#27 Jun 25 2009 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
Aunt May should have stayed dead from back in ASM #400 (That **** made me cry).

Which is funny, cause that was during Mark Bagley's run on ASM which must have been a few years before USM which which just relaunched for it's 10year which means...

Yup. I'm old.

Oh, & this thread is now about comics. Right now: Spider-Man

Ultimate version or main Marvel U version?

I go with Ultimate, barring it's relaunch sucking.
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#28 Jun 25 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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lolgaxe wrote:
zepoodle wrote:
I'm inclined to say that while the choice between 2 and 3 is a toss-up between Doc Ock and Venom/Green Goblin/Sandman,
It was Harry, and I raged at the eXtreme Hoverboard look he was given. Not that I blame anyone, there was a lot to rage about in the third movie.


The film credited him as "New Goblin" anyway.

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I go with Ultimate, barring it's relaunch sucking.


Ultimate started off pretty awesome, but it's becoming progressively ******** as time goes on. I think it's just a degeneration issue. It was supposed to be a full universe reboot so they could play with the characters without messing up the previous canon, but it eventually established its own canon which it now can't avoid messing with. Which I guess is the point of this whole Ultimatum *********

Really, I'm happy with the old universe. I don't mind people ******* with the canon so long as they tell a good story in the process. Some of the best comic book stories ignore the canon entirely.

Edited, Jun 25th 2009 3:32pm by zepoodle
#29 Jun 25 2009 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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Really, I'm happy with the old universe. I don't mind people @#%^ing with the canon so long as they tell a good story in the process. Some of the best comic book stories ignore the canon entirely.


Probably because the majority of the canon is so mind bogglingly stupid.
#30 Jun 26 2009 at 2:55 AM Rating: Good
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Ultimate universe where the current Ultimatum series is taking place? If so, then I'm definitely more for the main universe. Any universe where Magneto gets his arm cut off with a metal sword is nowhere I want to be.

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#31 Jun 26 2009 at 3:17 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Ultimate universe where the current Ultimatum series is taking place? If so, then I'm definitely more for the main universe. Any universe where Magneto gets his arm cut off with a metal sword is nowhere I want to be.

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#32 Jun 26 2009 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Probably because the majority of the canon is so mind bogglingly stupid.


Most of it is due to rampant fanboyism in the industry. Giving jobs to your fans isn't as great an idea as it sounds. Have you paid any attention to what comic book fans say and write?

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Ultimate universe where the current Ultimatum series is taking place? If so, then I'm definitely more for the main universe. Any universe where Magneto gets his arm cut off with a metal sword is nowhere I want to be.


Jeph Loeb has gone nuts. I feel for the guy, but I don't feel that he should be writing while he's so nuts.
#33 Jun 26 2009 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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There are three reasons I won't read Marvel or DC comics.

1. The retcons. I'm not bothered by saying a year of storyline didn't happen. I'm bothered by the reason a retcon is needed: they want to change the story. Making Peter Parker a high schooler breaks the old story.

2. Multiple authors. No consistent vsion. Essentially all authors after the first are trying to milk the character for money, not actually trying to continue the story.

3. Crossovers. Probably the biggest reason. Can a fan **** bring in big bucks when you've run out of real ideas? Sure! Can it brutally massacre the stories of all those involved? Always. At least with manga I know I'll never see Ichigo and Naruto team up to take down Yagami Light.
#34 Jun 26 2009 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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There are three reasons I won't read Marvel or DC comics.

1. The retcons. I'm not bothered by saying a year of storyline didn't happen. I'm bothered by the reason a retcon is needed: they want to change the story. Making Peter Parker a high schooler breaks the old story.

2. Multiple authors. No consistent vsion. Essentially all authors after the first are trying to milk the character for money, not actually trying to continue the story.

3. Crossovers. Probably the biggest reason. Can a fan **** bring in big bucks when you've run out of real ideas? Sure! Can it brutally massacre the stories of all those involved? Always. At least with manga I know I'll never see Ichigo and Naruto team up to take down Yagami Light.


Several crossovers aren't very good, but there have been a couple that were more than worth the read. Ofcourse, now I have to start sum some up I suppose Smiley: grin

Age of Apocalypse does come to mind as one of the biggest and best, Onslaught wasn't all bad but not really all that great either.

My biggest problem is just the extreme repetition. Just about everybody dies and comes back, stories reappear, slightly altered. There's just so many times the same characters can experience the same thing. Just different names after a while.
#35 Jun 27 2009 at 11:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
There are three reasons I won't read Marvel or DC comics.

1. The retcons. I'm not bothered by saying a year of storyline didn't happen. I'm bothered by the reason a retcon is needed: they want to change the story. Making Peter Parker a high schooler breaks the old story.

2. Multiple authors. No consistent vsion. Essentially all authors after the first are trying to milk the character for money, not actually trying to continue the story.

3. Crossovers. Probably the biggest reason. Can a fan **** bring in big bucks when you've run out of real ideas? Sure! Can it brutally massacre the stories of all those involved? Always. At least with manga I know I'll never see Ichigo and Naruto team up to take down Yagami Light.


There are several reasons I don't read manga, but I guess it'll only displease you to say them.
#36 Jun 28 2009 at 12:13 AM Rating: Good
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1. The retcons. I'm not bothered by saying a year of storyline didn't happen. I'm bothered by the reason a retcon is needed: they want to change the story. Making Peter Parker a high schooler breaks the old story.

2. Multiple authors. No consistent vsion. Essentially all authors after the first are trying to milk the character for money, not actually trying to continue the story.

3. Crossovers. Probably the biggest reason. Can a fan **** bring in big bucks when you've run out of real ideas? Sure! Can it brutally massacre the stories of all those involved? Always. At least with manga I know I'll never see Ichigo and Naruto team up to take down Yagami Light.


1. Making Peter a high schooler again in USM didn't break the story at all. It was simply a retelling of the story updated for the modern era. It doesn't remain faithful to the cannon but is instead inspired by it. UXMen was the same thing, but it just started to suck about halfway through.

While The Ultimates I & II are some of the greatest Marvel stories ever told.

2. USM had a consistent vision, as did Y-The Last Man. I understand where you're coming from with this one, though. Which is why nowadays I tend to pick up some of the "big" Marvel & DC books only when writers/artists I like are on them.

And The Ultimates I & II as well as the Joss Whedon/John Cassidy run on Astonishing X-Men are a couple examples of "consistant vision". I remember Jim Lee did a years worth of Batman too (forget who wrote it. Millar?) which was cool.

3. Crossovers can suck & are a huge drain on the wallet. However, sometimes they don't suck too. Case in point the recent crossover between Deadpool & the Thunderbolts. Hilariously awesome.

Truth be told, I pick up Marvel books mostly out of habit & DC books only when I like the creators. Outside of that, Invincible, The Walking Dead, & Kick-*** are really the only indie books I read regularly.

Edited, Jun 28th 2009 4:15am by Omegavegeta
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#37 Jun 28 2009 at 5:56 AM Rating: Good
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Why does everyone always spell "canon" "cannon"?
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#38 Jun 28 2009 at 6:47 AM Rating: Good
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I was just left wondering why they didn't teleport a nuke aboard the mining vessel when they opened up for teleporting.

'Hay u gusy, plz send ur captian here 4 executions!'
'Uhm, okay...'
*beeeeeam*
'o shi- u set up us teh bomb!!1'

*boom*

But then again, if they'd just done that, we wouldn't have had a movie to watch. It would've all been over before Kirk was even born.

Edited, Jun 28th 2009 4:48pm by Mazra
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#39 Jun 28 2009 at 3:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Omegavegeta wrote:
3. Crossovers can suck & are a huge drain on the wallet. However, sometimes they don't suck too. Case in point the recent crossover between Deadpool & the Thunderbolts. Hilariously awesome.
I find that good and bad. Good in that Deadpool has been my favorite Marvel character for a long, long time, and the more titles he's in, the more titles I get to enjoy his madcap shenanigans. The bad news is that Deadpool is quickly becoming the new Wolverine, in that they're putting him into EVERYTHING. Personally, I'm waiting for his crossover with the Power Pack.

Speaking of Wolverine, Daken can be pretty funny, too. I get the feeling that Marvel is going to retire Wolverine for a while (As in kill him) and let Daken take over in the X-Men, Avengers, Power Pack, Alpha Flight, and the other fourteen magazines a month Logan appears in.
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#40 Jun 28 2009 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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O HAI, I'm young james t kirk who tries to outrun a flying vehicle by driving my dad's car off of a cliff.


There really is a good reason for that. It's to show that Kirk is really good at hanging from ledges.

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