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#1 Apr 01 2009 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Have you seen it?

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#3 Apr 01 2009 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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No, It's not an April fools joke. I was serious.

The youtube video is just a laugh about the acts required to have seen the movie.
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#5 Apr 01 2009 at 9:39 PM Rating: Good
Do you want to see it?

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-EDIT Watching Now
lol @ some of the "rough cut" special effects

-edit 2
It's not as good as X-Men 1 or 2, but better than 3.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2009 5:09am by Omegavegeta
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#6 Apr 02 2009 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
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I thought it'd be a Spongebob movie, being April Fools, but I downloaded it anyway ...

Watching it now, I'm only interested in the movie for Deadpool. I'll edit once I'm done to pass judgment.

Edit 1: So far, he's smarmy. Not too bad, really.

Edit 2 Movie not so bad, quite enjoyable. More so if you don't really follow the comics. If you do follow the comics, and are a fan of Deadpool (such as myself) ...

FUCK YOU, SNIKTDUDE, THE MERC WITHOUT A MOUTH! FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU! Smiley: mad

Edited, Apr 2nd 2009 8:37am by lolgaxe
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#7 Apr 02 2009 at 3:49 AM Rating: Good
Ryan Reynolds makes a great Deadpool.

Too bad they only had him for a weeks worth of shooting, cause when he shows back up "he's" not quite as cool.
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#8 Apr 02 2009 at 4:37 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, the first scenes with him he's a good Wade Wilson. It's that Weapon XI Sniktdude crap that's evil. Smiley: mad

Silent Deadpool = Fail.

The eye lazers, BAMFing and arm swords didn't help ... but I'm sure Comic Deadpool would love the arm swords ... I can picture it, too. He'd keep making Wolvy jokes while using them. "Lookit me, I snikt!"

But don't get me wrong, I did kind of like the movie. I've seen worse.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2009 9:08am by lolgaxe
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#9 Apr 03 2009 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Do you want to see it?

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-EDIT Watching Now
lol @ some of the "rough cut" special effects

-edit 2
It's not as good as X-Men 1 or 2, but better than 3.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2009 5:09am by Omegavegeta


That's not really saying much though, just about any movie released at that time was better than X-Men 3. Heck, I even enjoyed that Shield movie with David Hasselhof more than X-Men 3.
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Heck, I even enjoyed that Shield movie with David Hasselhof more than X-Men 3.


You mean Nick Fury: Agent Of Shield?
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#11 Apr 03 2009 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Heck, I even enjoyed that Shield movie with David Hasselhof more than X-Men 3.


You mean Nick Fury: Agent Of Shield?


Oh most definitely that movie! I have to admit, I've got a thing for Hasselhof, sure most of the things for television he does are pretty bad but still, he's no.1 in Germany!

To be completely honest, not many movies are worse than X-Men 3 though, so Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD can easily be described as better.
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#12 Apr 04 2009 at 12:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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That's not really saying much though, just about any movie released at that time was better than X-Men 3.


Hugh Jackman is still a great Wolverine. Liev Schriber's good throughout most of it, but was considerably un-Sabretoothy at the end. The kid who played Gambit was actually pretty good, but I had a few gripes about him.

Now, this is more a gripe about some Comic movies in general as of late (with the sole exception The Dark Knight.) If you saw Watchmen, the prison fight scene especially had some really over the top action. Now, you're supposed to buy into these being people, well trained, but with NO superpowers, in costumes fighting crime. Yet, they are doing things that break the "wall of humanity" (Things a human being cannot do): kicking people across rooms, jumping super high...etc.

Gambit's "power" (in comics) is to charge things and make them explode on impact. His favorite projectile is a deck of cards, which if you've ever tried to throw is actually really hard to do. But it is possible to do without again "breaking the wall of humanity".

In the movie, he can "magically" levitate them & throw them around. He can jump incredible distances, jump from incredible heights, & he can even run up walls. His "movie" powers are not really explained.

Deadpool is a mutant (I guess?) at the beginning of the flick who's power seems to revolve around being really good with swords. This is not explained & by the time you see him again, there's no reason to bother (I'm trying not spoil too much).

I don't know what The Blob was supposed to have for powers besides super strength.

The plot touches on the Origin story, his Team 7 days (W/William Stryker in charge), & of course Weapon X. There are extended cameos by Cyclops & the White Queen (who is now Silverfox's sister). Toad & Xavier make short appearances as well.

I'd give it a C+, a litle above average, or a B if somehow Ryan Reynolds turns his 10minutes of Deadpool into a spin off movie.

And he not only ****** Scarlett Johansson, he married her.

I'm inclined to believe the man can do anything.
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#13 Apr 04 2009 at 12:48 AM Rating: Good
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Omegavegeta wrote:
In the movie, he can "magically" levitate them & throw them around.
I think that was more due to the rough unfinished nature of the special effects. In the comics, Gambit is always seen doing various card tricks, like juggling them. A quick flip, catch, and toss wouldn't be entirely out of the question here.

... Unless the finished product leaves it as levitating cards.

Edited, Apr 4th 2009 4:49am by lolgaxe
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#14 Apr 04 2009 at 3:55 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know what The Blob was supposed to have for powers besides super strength.


I thought that was it. He's just really fat because he likes to eat.
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#15 Apr 04 2009 at 7:01 AM Rating: Good
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Allow me to geek out for a second, but I don't remember comic Blob as being super strong. His mutant ability revolved around him being an Unmovable Object, and his fat was somewhat elastic so he could keep from getting slashed and blown up without being hurt.
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#16 Apr 04 2009 at 8:08 PM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Omegavegeta wrote:
In the movie, he can "magically" levitate them & throw them around.
I think that was more due to the rough unfinished nature of the special effects. In the comics, Gambit is always seen doing various card tricks, like juggling them. A quick flip, catch, and toss wouldn't be entirely out of the question here.

... Unless the finished product leaves it as levitating cards.

Edited, Apr 4th 2009 4:49am by lolgaxe


Ya, that's one of the downsides of the uncut, roughness.

My brother saw it and thought Agent Zero was firing bullets out of his clips without guns. I had to explain to him that the guns he threw up into the air were supposed to come back down on the new clips, but the 3-D graphics weren't finished.


As far as Gambit jumping high and "running on walls", that could just be an extension of his existing powers. "High Jumping" could be just an explosive boost.
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#17 Apr 05 2009 at 12:04 AM Rating: Good
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A quick flip, catch, and toss wouldn't be entirely out of the question here.


He doesn't flip em' though. He levitates like, half the deck in a semi-circle and shoots them out of the middle of the semi-circle one at a time while the rest continue to float there.

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#18 Apr 05 2009 at 6:03 AM Rating: Good
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Allow me to geek out for a second, but I don't remember comic Blob as being super strong. His mutant ability revolved around him being an Unmovable Object, and his fat was somewhat elastic so he could keep from getting slashed and blown up without being hurt.
Blob has the ability to control all of his body mass comprised of fat, skin etc. In fact he can take all of the accumulated weight and focus it in one place, giving him the semblance of strength when it would be better described as a malleable inertia.

If I recall (I've not read comics heavily in some time) I saw in passing that Blob somehow lost his powers, at least for a time. The picture that depicted a depowered blob looked a lot like a person after they had a stomach staple done and lost a lot of weight. His skin was falling from his body because he had no control over it anymore, gravity took over where he no longer could and he looked like a mass of flesh.
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#19 Apr 05 2009 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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A quick flip, catch, and toss wouldn't be entirely out of the question here.


He doesn't flip em' though. He levitates like, half the deck in a semi-circle and shoots them out of the middle of the semi-circle one at a time while the rest continue to float there.



From what I saw, it spun the deck of cards in a large loop and shot them forward. Similar to Matchbox cars going through the loop-d-loop thing. And when he was dealing the deck was floating, and the cards were being shot out.

But of course, this is all from an unfinished CG rendering, so we have no idea what the actual end product looks like. It could be that the actors arms are going to be digitally altered to be handling the cards quickly and skillfully.


Bottom line:
Stop nit picking at the CG, when they CG isn't even finished! Wait for the final product, then complain.


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Allow me to geek out for a second, but I don't remember comic Blob as being super strong. His mutant ability revolved around him being an Unmovable Object, and his fat was somewhat elastic so he could keep from getting slashed and blown up without being hurt.
Blob has the ability to control all of his body mass comprised of fat, skin etc. In fact he can take all of the accumulated weight and focus it in one place, giving him the semblance of strength when it would be better described as a malleable inertia.

If I recall (I've not read comics heavily in some time) I saw in passing that Blob somehow lost his powers, at least for a time. The picture that depicted a depowered blob looked a lot like a person after they had a stomach staple done and lost a lot of weight. His skin was falling from his body because he had no control over it anymore, gravity took over where he no longer could and he looked like a mass of flesh.


There is a whole story line where millions of mutants lose their abilities due to the Scarlet Witch. The Blob was one of them.

Edited, Apr 5th 2009 12:24pm by TirithRR
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#20 Apr 05 2009 at 11:24 PM Rating: Good
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From what I saw, it spun the deck of cards in a large loop and shot them forward. Similar to Matchbox cars going through the loop-d-loop thing. And when he was dealing the deck was floating, and the cards were being shot out.

But of course, this is all from an unfinished CG rendering, so we have no idea what the actual end product looks like. It could be that the actors arms are going to be digitally altered to be handling the cards quickly and skillfully.



I watched that scene again today. I think that was a finish product unless I saw a different version. He loops the card around in a semi circle, and in slow motion the cards face values (Ace of Spades which he's holding, Queen of Clubs, 3 of Clubs) have an electric pink/purple aura around them, then he extends his arm out, and the cards follow the simi-circle and follow the path of his outstretched arm shooting out at Wolverine. The reason why I believe that is a finished CGI scene is because a lot of the CGI stuff that was actually rendered in the movie was used for the trailer. That scene with gambit was in the latest trailer if I remember correctly.

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#21 Apr 06 2009 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Gambit can do what he wants with the cards because what he charges the cards with is Kinetic energy, which, at least in my mind, can force motion and almost be like a really ****** make-shift telekinesis.
#22 Apr 06 2009 at 11:28 PM Rating: Good
Actually, Kinetic energy is the "extra" energy an object has while in motion. Hence the "boom" on impact aspect of him throwing cards.

How he can use that to do things like "phase" his staff in order to clime up walls & detonate an explosion that destroys an entire block with his staff (without actually destroying the staff itself) eludes me in the context of his "comic" book abilities.

But this is the movie version, so it can always be explained away with a simple "his powers work slightly different".

The helicoptering of his staff when jumping off that building was cheesy as **** though.
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#23 Apr 07 2009 at 3:37 AM Rating: Good
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Well, the cane could have been a conduit and his Asplosion power could of just "ended" on the street itself before blowing up. Sure, it's a stretch, but let's face it: It's Marvel. It doesn't need to be feasible, just look cool.

Now, I went back and rewatched the Gambit scene again, and the part we're discussing looks like he pulls the cards up in a loop, then swings his arm down to throw them. That's about the best I can figure it out to be.

I guess they had to take some creative chances for it. I mean, comics are still frames, so they can draw Gambit's cards any which way they want, and how often has it been shown him throwing a whole deck at a time? A little harder to mix CG and live action for something like that, I'm sure. I didn't think it looked that bad, pretty in-character for him.

That helicopter thing, though ... yeah, f'n retarded. He's an agile thief, okay we get that much. But that was waaaaaaaay off.
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Actually, Kinetic energy is the "extra" energy an object has while in motion. Hence the "boom" on impact aspect of him throwing cards.

How he can use that to do things like "phase" his staff in order to clime up walls & detonate an explosion that destroys an entire block with his staff (without actually destroying the staff itself) eludes me in the context of his "comic" book abilities.

But this is the movie version, so it can always be explained away with a simple "his powers work slightly different".

The helicoptering of his staff when jumping off that building was cheesy as @#%^ though.


I barely noticed that helicoptering myself though, and I believe he used a staff in the comics too at times. Although his cards were always his favourite, I wonder what happened to him in the comics, haven't read them in quite a while and not all that many recent ones are to be found on the marvel site.


I was a bit disappointed myself in the movie, it's all just too much for one movie and the final fight against weapon XI is just too fast.

And Deadpool was much more interesting before the change.


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Hugh Jackman is still a great Wolverine. Liev Schriber's good throughout most of it, but was considerably un-Sabretoothy at the end. The kid who played Gambit was actually pretty good, but I had a few gripes about him.


Actually, it's not really that unlike something that did happen in some comic too. Although it's probably for the best that they didn't go into the whole "paralel evolution out of canines or cats", I do feel they did the whole eternal feud between the two fairly well. Lack of time to deepen it out more though, it works a heck of a lot better in the comics, way more reasons in there for that feud.

I liked Schriber's performance, compared to X-Men 1, that's not very hard, they really didn't do Sabretooth justice then.

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In the movie, he can "magically" levitate them & throw them around. He can jump incredible distances, jump from incredible heights, & he can even run up walls. His "movie" powers are not really explained.


Not exactly, he just throws them in an arch really fast, using the energy he puts in them to propell them towards Wolverine. All just really, really fast so it looks like they are hovering. Irrelevant really,


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And then there's the story line where Sinister manages to switch off everyone's mutated DNA element, making every single one human.

I'm trying to think of when that happened before, but other than the mutant dampening field Magneto used in his fortress, I can't really think of anytime, although I seem to recall it did.

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The plot touches on the Origin story, his Team 7 days (W/William Stryker in charge), & of course Weapon X. There are extended cameos by Cyclops & the White Queen (who is now Silverfox's sister). Toad & Xavier make short appearances as well.


Wasn't that Paige Guthrie instead of the White Queen? Although Emma can change her skin to diamond and Paige had to shed skin to change so I suppose it would be the White Queen, would be fitting to see the pair of them together too.
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Never seen any of the X men movies... how many are there. I hate how they did a hulk movie a few years back... and then made another hulk movie... but it wasnt a sequel, just another remake or something like that. Didn't they do that with the punisher too?
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Gambit can start and stop the kinetic reaction in anything he touches, so like mentioned above he was using the staff to extend his reach. He just spread the charge down the staff into the object then after the object was ready to explode he just pulled the staff back and stopped the reaction in it.
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