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#102 Nov 09 2009 at 11:06 PM Rating: Good
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There's no point talking about this, because their power levels change drastically based on how strong the plot needs them to be, because the writer is awful at writing. Kenpachi, for example, had to use a two hand grip to cut axe-espada at all, but now he's slicing through 0, who's supposed to have iron skin as one of his main abilities, as if he's made of butter.


Do we even know if he even really is as powerful as he claims to be? He's getting sliced up much more easily than the other espada as you said. Is he just erasing his "1" because he thinks he is that powerful and none of the others are around to kill him over it?


Either way, it's kind of a ******** plot element Smiley: tongue

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#103 Nov 11 2009 at 1:12 AM Rating: Default
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Sir Kavekk wrote:
There's no point talking about this, because their power levels change drastically based on how strong the plot needs them to be, because the writer is awful at writing. Kenpachi, for example, had to use a two hand grip to cut axe-espada at all, but now he's slicing through 0, who's supposed to have iron skin as one of his main abilities, as if he's made of butter.

Sure I'll give you that the plot makes characters as powerful as they need to be, but do give the author credit where credit is due. You have the situation reversed. The 5th Espada, Noitra, that Kenpachi fought earlier was said to have the toughest skin, Hierro, in all of Hueco Mundo. It does make sense that Kenpachi would need to use two hands against Noitra to cut him but not against Yami. Yami's hierro is in no way especially tough; he can be sliced just as easily as anyone else.

Edited, Nov 11th 2009 1:21am by Allegory
#104 Nov 11 2009 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
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I doubt we'll even see his death. He was more a plot contrivance to show the others were okay and gathered, to give Ichigo an excuse to leave Mundo, than an actual threat.

******** your spoiler tags.[/sm]
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#105 Nov 11 2009 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I doubt we'll even see his death. He was more a plot contrivance to show the others were okay and gathered, to give Ichigo an excuse to leave Mundo, than an actual threat.

@#%^ your spoiler tags.


It would seem that way, the fact that Ichigo couldn't take him down himself most likely has to do with him not being able to accept his new level of power again, none of the Espada were all that much of a threat to the captains apparantly.
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It would seem that way, the fact that Ichigo couldn't take him down himself most likely has to do with him not being able to accept his new level of power again, none of the Espada were all that much of a threat to the captains apparantly.


Probably, that and it had been a few pages without Ichigo getting a beating from something or other. We'll probably see him getting tossed around a while during the fight til he has another little tussle with his inner self or something to release his power again.
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#107 Nov 11 2009 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
Sir Kavekk wrote:
There's no point talking about this, because their power levels change drastically based on how strong the plot needs them to be, because the writer is awful at writing. Kenpachi, for example, had to use a two hand grip to cut axe-espada at all, but now he's slicing through 0, who's supposed to have iron skin as one of his main abilities, as if he's made of butter.

Sure I'll give you that the plot makes characters as powerful as they need to be, but do give the author credit where credit is due. You have the situation reversed. The 5th Espada, Noitra, that Kenpachi fought earlier was said to have the toughest skin, Hierro, in all of Hueco Mundo. It does make sense that Kenpachi would need to use two hands against Noitra to cut him but not against Yami. Yami's hierro is in no way especially tough; he can be sliced just as easily as anyone else.

Edited, Nov 11th 2009 1:21am by Allegory


Maybe I misremember, but when he was still 10, I thought everyone was whining about tough his skin was? Yoruichi hurt her hand hitting him, for example. Especially tough hierro or no, it should be harder for Kenpachi to slice through flesh and bone thicker than himself, especially considering he's still wearing the eye-patch.

But yeah, there are plenty of better examples of this, I just thought this one was easiest to illustrate.

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#108 Nov 12 2009 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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What's with the spoiler tags all of a sudden? This thread has been going on for months, I highly doubt someone is going to wonder in now and get all bent out of shape about finding something out.

Edited, Nov 12th 2009 12:30pm by Turin
#109 Nov 12 2009 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
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Speaking in spoilers makes me feel special

Well.. that or I just didn't know that this was a thread that it was safe to post spoilers in. Now I do though ^^
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#110 Nov 12 2009 at 7:13 PM Rating: Decent
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We learn this week that Ichigo's clothes are actually a Scouter, and that his power level is, indeed, over nine thousand.
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#111 Nov 12 2009 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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We learn this week that Ichigo's clothes are actually a Scouter, and that his power level is, indeed, over nine thousand.


Smiley: lol The only reason I read this chapter is because I read this first, and it's oh so true.
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#112 Nov 12 2009 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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So it looks like the so-called "0th" Espada just had a Not Now Bernard moment while Byakuya and Kenpachi duke it out.

I laughed at how pathetic he really is.
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#113 Nov 13 2009 at 1:12 AM Rating: Good
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So it looks like the so-called "0th" Espada just had a Not Now Bernard moment while Byakuya and Kenpachi duke it out.

I laughed at how pathetic he really is.


I'm not surprised really. Figured some giant beast of an espada calling himself the top rank was just a sham.

More importantly though, I want to know why Unohana is supposed to be so scary.
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#114 Nov 27 2009 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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And Tosen has a mask. Not surprised.
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#115 Nov 27 2009 at 2:06 PM Rating: Default
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More importantly though, I want to know why Unohana is supposed to be so scary.

Scary in battle? Because canonically she is the second most powerful Captain. She is one of the oldest and most experienced characters.

Scary as a person? I suppose you just have to have met a person like the character she is supposed be. It's called the look, and every reserved, kind, and powerful girl/woman has it. It's a highly charged expression. You might liken to pushing a needle into a numb area of skin, not feeling anything at first, until you finally break past the numbness and the burning, pinching sensation is suddenly revealed. Besides the sharpness of the glare itself, there is the juxtaposition of that intense "Do as I say, NOW!" intent with the ordinarily disarming personality that augments the cutting edge. There is the additional element of surprise and lack of will to deflect the emotion that allows it to push further into you.

This is truly the power of god.
#116 Nov 27 2009 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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So to recap: Yammy threw a temper tantrum, Aizen performed a superior race evil speel that would make classic Magneto proud, and Tosen "has a secret power" that is no doubt a mask, which means Gin will have one as well, and most likely Aizen will have like four ...

Oh, and the only other tolerable character (The first being Kenpachi) has been cleaved in half. Of course, 2:1 odds say Hiyori will be back stronger than ever in about ten to fifteen chapter using Super Saiyan logic. ("You may strike me down, but I'll return stronger than ever!")
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#117 Nov 28 2009 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
AlexanderrOfAsura wrote:
More importantly though, I want to know why Unohana is supposed to be so scary.

Scary in battle? Because canonically she is the second most powerful Captain. She is one of the oldest and most experienced characters.

Scary as a person? I suppose you just have to have met a person like the character she is supposed be. It's called the look, and every reserved, kind, and powerful girl/woman has it. It's a highly charged expression. You might liken to pushing a needle into a numb area of skin, not feeling anything at first, until you finally break past the numbness and the burning, pinching sensation is suddenly revealed. Besides the sharpness of the glare itself, there is the juxtaposition of that intense "Do as I say, NOW!" intent with the ordinarily disarming personality that augments the cutting edge. There is the additional element of surprise and lack of will to deflect the emotion that allows it to push further into you.

This is truly the power of god.

He's really talking about me.
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#118 Nov 28 2009 at 9:53 AM Rating: Default
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nvm.

Edited, Nov 28th 2009 10:26am by Allegory
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nvm.

Edited, Nov 28th 2009 10:26am by Allegory


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#120 Dec 03 2009 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I can't even bring up strength to sarcastically comment about this weeks chapter. Such a boring *** lazy design.
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#121 Dec 03 2009 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
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Agreed.
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#122 Dec 03 2009 at 1:45 PM Rating: Default
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It was somewhat fitting, but the design could have been executed better.
#123 Dec 03 2009 at 10:48 PM Rating: Good
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I'm just hoping we get to see some actual, irreversible deaths on the good guys side.
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#124 Dec 04 2009 at 1:26 AM Rating: Good
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Aizen and Gin had best have some **** fancy masks to make up for Tosen.
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#125 Dec 04 2009 at 11:50 PM Rating: Good
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I'm just hoping we get to see some actual, irreversible deaths on the good guys side.


Unless it's Orihime, won't happen. As long as she's around, she can fix dead people.
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#126 Dec 05 2009 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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AlexanderrOfAsura wrote:
Aizen and Gin had best have some **** fancy masks to make up for Tosen.


I actually like Tosen's mask. It's a little bland, sure, but I think it fits.
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