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#27 Jan 31 2009 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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#28 Jan 31 2009 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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Rome


Rome wasn't canceled, it had ended its story arc. Historically speaking, not a lot happens after Augustus takes power, so there wouldn't be much meat for a third season.

Oh, and Firefly. Duh.
#29 Feb 01 2009 at 3:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Rome wasn't canceled, it had ended its story arc. Historically speaking, not a lot happens after Augustus takes power, so there wouldn't be much meat for a third season.


I'm not entirely sure but aren't they planning on making a movie now? I thought they stopped the TV series just because of the extremely high costs, the writers strike and something important for the production burning down. But since I got all of this from third hand I may be completely wrong. :)
#30 Feb 01 2009 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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Well, if they made a third season, what are they going to put in it? About the only exciting thing to happen in the next sixty years is the Battle of Teutoberg Forest.

I can see them fitting in a movie, but it looked to me like they'd planned on ending it where they did.
#31 Feb 01 2009 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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zepoodle wrote:
TherealLogros wrote:

Rome


Rome wasn't canceled, it had ended its story arc. Historically speaking, not a lot happens after Augustus takes power, so there wouldn't be much meat for a third season.


Well, eventually there was the entire reign of Caligula, not to mention the reign of his extremely warped pedophile grandfather.

Old Rome still had plenty of juicy fodder for an adult-only series. Problem was, the production values were too high. The show simply cost too much to make.
#32 Feb 01 2009 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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Well, eventually there was the entire reign of Caligula, not to mention the reign of his extremely warped @#%^phile grandfather.

Old Rome still had plenty of juicy fodder for an adult-only series. Problem was, the production values were too high. The show simply cost too much to make.


That's the thing, though. Caligula is what, 38AD? The entire cast would be dead by then. I'm not saying that it's not a good idea to make a TV series about the emperors, but it would be a totally different series to what Rome was.

It's just, looking at the way it was written, the story fits perfectly into a two-season structure. It definitely doesn't feel like it was cut off prematurely. It feels like they looked at the historical material, looked at the cost per episode, then wrote a show that would cover both in two seasons.
#33 Feb 02 2009 at 5:22 PM Rating: Good
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zepoodle wrote:
Ambrya wrote:
Well, eventually there was the entire reign of Caligula, not to mention the reign of his extremely warped @#%^phile grandfather.

Old Rome still had plenty of juicy fodder for an adult-only series. Problem was, the production values were too high. The show simply cost too much to make.


That's the thing, though. Caligula is what, 38AD? The entire cast would be dead by then. I'm not saying that it's not a good idea to make a TV series about the emperors, but it would be a totally different series to what Rome was.


We'll never really know what Rome was, or at least what it was meant to be, because the producers decided to end it in the face of the astronomical production values.

There's good reason to believe that the show was, indeed, intended to be about the emperors in sequence season by season, seeing as how the first season was about Julius Ceasar and the second about the rise of Octavian/Augustus, which is certainly suggestive of a scheme where each season focused on a different emperor.

Yes, because of the chronology of these events, most of the actors crossed over from one season to another the first two seasons. But seeing how willing they were to swap the actor who played young Octavian for an older actor when they fast-forwarded several years, and how many major characters died along the way, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't have been willing to replace the whole cast as history marched forward.

In fact, the only thing that suggests they might not have had exactly that scenario in mind is the "view from the gallery" thing they had going on with events transpiring with Vorenus and Pullo always getting mixed up in it all.

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It's just, looking at the way it was written, the story fits perfectly into a two-season structure. It definitely doesn't feel like it was cut off prematurely. It feels like they looked at the historical material, looked at the cost per episode, then wrote a show that would cover both in two seasons.


It looked that way, but that's not actually what happened. The show was intended to go on longer than two seasons, but the production costs were simply too high. A pity, because it was so incredibly, incredibly gorgeous.
#34 Feb 05 2009 at 2:45 AM Rating: Good
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#35 Feb 05 2009 at 9:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Rome was cancelled due to extremely high production costs. They had originally planned to (A) stretch out the plotline into the birth of Christ (the coming of which is hinted at towards the end of the series in the subplot with the Jewish dudes) and (B) expand a whole lot more on the subject matter in the second season. Instead, they learned that the second season would be their last and had to mash everything into the final episodes which hurt the pacing and made stuff pretty confusing at times.
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“I discovered halfway through writing the second season the show was going to end,” Heller said. “The second was going to end with death of Brutus. Third and fourth season would be set in Egypt. Fifth was going to be the rise of the messiah in Palestine. But because we got the heads-up that the second season would be it, I telescoped the third and fourth season into the second one, which accounts for the blazing speed we go through history near the end. There’s certainly more than enough history to go around.”
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#36 Feb 13 2009 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
I'm going with the show called The L Word. It's currently on the very last season and I'm going to miss it. I will admit the last few seasons weren't the best but I am going to miss having a show to watch on Sunday nights.

#37 Feb 13 2009 at 5:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm going with the show called The L Word. It's currently on the very last season and I'm going to miss it. I will admit the last few seasons weren't the best but I am going to miss having a show to watch on Sunday nights.



I watched it once. I was very disappointed.

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#38 Feb 14 2009 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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FireFly: I just want to know who the fudge Shepherd Booke is. He had this huge, mysterious back story, reaching into the military and I will never know what he was.

Threshold: I watched the first series compulsively, ended with a cliffhanger of a message being sent to the Alien's homeworld and then there was no series 2. Annoyed me greatly.

Coupling: Dunno if it counts, but first 3 series were hands down the best comedy on TV, then the best character left, his replacement was awful, the story took huge turns down a completely different route and then it all ended abruptly. I think Jeff's departure was the death blow to the show.
#39 Feb 15 2009 at 11:22 PM Rating: Good
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I will always miss Firefly, but a close runner up would have been Space: Above and Beyond.

Maybe I'm just remembering it through rose-colored glasses, but I loved that show a lot. They ended the last season with a massive cliff hanger (One main character dead at least, two others chances of survival very, very low) and then it got canceled. Never found out what happened. :(

Edited, Feb 15th 2009 11:23pm by AsuranConvict
#40 Feb 18 2009 at 11:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Firefly and Arrested Development. Many shows, on the other hand, have outlived their initial greatness. I am a little glad these didn't go the same way, but it's still bittersweet at best.
#41 Feb 20 2009 at 5:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Do Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis count since they're still continuing the story/making new ones only in movie format? If so, then that. If not then... Red Dwarf, Angel, and Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

Firefly was a great show that was ended much too soon.
THANKFULLY Whedon was able to get Serenity out to decently wrap things up.
Hope one day he'll be able to do that for some of his other shows now that other series are doing the dvd-movie continuations (SG1, Atlantis, Dead Like Me, etc.)

#42 Feb 21 2009 at 8:01 PM Rating: Good
I miss:
-The 440
-Dead Like Me
-Pushing Daisies

Those shows were so good, it's a shame they're over.
#43 Feb 22 2009 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
Firefly was never really my thing. A couple friends made me watch it, it was ok, but definitely not something I'd watch all that often. I did like Pushing Daisies, but I only watched it like three times. But it was really funny when I did watch it. Other than that, I really liked the few episodes of The 4400 I watched.
#44 Feb 23 2009 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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Firefly was never really my thing. A couple friends made me watch it, it was ok, but definitely not something I'd watch all that often. I did like Pushing Daisies, but I only watched it like three times. But it was really funny when I did watch it. Other than that, I really liked the few episodes of The 4400 I watched.


I don't think Firefly was anything spectacular. It was a good, solid show. The thing about its cancellation that irks me is that you have about 20 or so cops-and-robbers dramas, but a well-made original show like Firefly gets canceled. I mean, I'm not up in arms over it and I never was a huge fan, but it certainly didn't deserve to be canceled.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 2:23pm by boywithoutaspoon
#45 Feb 23 2009 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Codyy wrote:
Firefly was never really my thing. A couple friends made me watch it, it was ok, but definitely not something I'd watch all that often. I did like Pushing Daisies, but I only watched it like three times. But it was really funny when I did watch it. Other than that, I really liked the few episodes of The 4400 I watched.


I don't think Firefly was anything spectacular. It was a good, solid show. The thing about its cancellation that irks me is that you have about 20 or so cops-and-robbers dramas, but a well-made original show like Firefly gets canceled. I mean, I'm not up in arms over it and I never was a huge fan, but it certainly didn't deserve to be canceled.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 2:23pm by boywithoutaspoon
But Law and Order ____ Are all original, moving, amazing television series! (Well, actually, I like most law and orders... But still, there are more than CSI!)
#46 Feb 23 2009 at 6:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Codyy wrote:
boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Codyy wrote:
Firefly was never really my thing. A couple friends made me watch it, it was ok, but definitely not something I'd watch all that often. I did like Pushing Daisies, but I only watched it like three times. But it was really funny when I did watch it. Other than that, I really liked the few episodes of The 4400 I watched.


I don't think Firefly was anything spectacular. It was a good, solid show. The thing about its cancellation that irks me is that you have about 20 or so cops-and-robbers dramas, but a well-made original show like Firefly gets canceled. I mean, I'm not up in arms over it and I never was a huge fan, but it certainly didn't deserve to be canceled.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 2:23pm by boywithoutaspoon
But Law and Order ____ Are all original, moving, amazing television series! (Well, actually, I like most law and orders... But still, there are more than CSI!)


At least the L&O programmes differ amongst themselves. The CSI shows all basically follow the same formula. The only real difference is the lighting.
#47 Feb 24 2009 at 7:05 PM Rating: Good
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And c'mon...who cares what they have Liv doing, as long as we get to watch. :D
#48 Feb 25 2009 at 6:27 PM Rating: Good
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Oh yeah, Threshold was great, I had almost forgotten about that show.
#49 Mar 01 2009 at 8:27 PM Rating: Good
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I was never much of a TV person, but I did enjoy Whose Line. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet... And I can't stand Titus as a comedian, couldn't imagine liking him in a sitcom.
#50 Mar 01 2009 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Ah, Invader Zim.
#51 Mar 02 2009 at 3:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jericho.

Anyone who knows me personally remembers my participation in the Jericho nuts campaign. For those of you unfamiliar with the campaign, fans sent over forty thousand pounds of peanuts to CBS to bring the show back on the air after the show was canceled. Unfortunately, CBS canceled it again seven episodes later. Suffice to say, I don't watch anything on CBS anymore. :)

Alright I lied, unfortunately I'm really enjoying Big Bang Theory. That is, until CBS cancels it. :(

Edited, Mar 2nd 2009 3:30am by Tamat
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