Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (major spoilers!!)Follow

So, let's try this again then.

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Anyway, I must say that I quite enjoyed the book, a very decent ending to the series.

The start of the book really paced things up, so I was a bit disappointed with the middle of it. I found it quite boring even, at times I knew what Ron went through. But the ending more than made up for it!

Some of the deaths didn't made all that much sense, sort of a needless padding of the death count. Most of them were done in a "by-the-way" style, for instance Moody or Lupin and Tonks. Contrary to Dobby and Fred, where Harry instantly experienced it.

As for Snape, well, she did that part brilliantly imo. He poured his life into that vial and gave Harry a full history of why he did what he did. Still not a likeable guy though, I mean his reasons for turning on Voldemort weren't exactly heroic.

But I suppose that this is what Rowlings has done several times. At times even overdoing it, with Dumbledore imo for instance. It worked great with Snape and Sirius, both of them were more than what they seemed at first, and it works well, but with Dumbledore she overdid the whole "tearing down the hero" bit.

All in all, great series!


Edited, Jul 22nd 2007 11:13pm by Zieveraar

Just finished it about 3 minutes ago, now I can look at the interwebs again without fear! Loved it, going to be a great movie. Really wasn't so happy about Tonks and Lupin and Fred, but guess it could have been worse. That last chapter was confusing, trying to keep everyone straight!

I've been thinking about that after reading your post, I think Snape actually wanted to see Harry's eyes when he died to try and focus the thoughts he wanted Harry to see. Those naturally included a lot of Lilly, so it would help for him to see his eyes that are equal to Lilly's.

Not easy to get the thoughts you want into a vial on a good day, nevermind when you die!

Just a thought really, and also the more I think of it, the more I do consider that part of the book to be the best bit. Finally the true motivation behind Snape.

Agreed. The Battle for Hogwart's was fantastic as was the Prince's Tale. The epilogue could have been so much more though.

I'm having a bit of a debate with someone about this: did Harry die?

I'ld say yes, if he wanted to he could have "moved on", it was his choice Dumbledore said I believe.



It's not that it wasn't fitting, perhaps most people just dislike the huge gap between the end of the fight and the epilogue. No real sort of closure regarding what happened to Fred or Lupin and Tonks, hints and references naturally, especially with Lupin and Tonks' son. In theory, this book is it, no more about Hogwarths and HP or anyone else, so I can understand why so many just don't want it to end at all, nevermind an ending with quite a bit of promises about future interesting events.

I mean, it would be interesting to read more about the whole bunch at Hogwarths I'ld say.

She also left a TON of new content to write about should she decide to jump back into it again.

It was a good book, but too short, in my opinion. Too many important characters were killed off without notice and the epilogue didn't tie up all the loose ends.

I knew Snape wasn't all bad and the love story between him and Lily was really touching. Harry and Ginny ending up together was almost a given, but made me happy nonetheless (considering the ending of the previous book). Ron and Hermione was obvious as well, but also pretty awesome. Tonks and Lupin was the worst part, in my opinion. Just had a child and then they're written off like that. Fred dying was sad as well. I have always seen Fred and George as two bodies sharing a soul. I can't imagine how George could go on without him.

Like someone else mentioned, it's pretty nasty to think that Harry and Ginny, and Ron and Hermione, did more than just snog at some point. Perhaps because that particular chapter put some pretty illegal imagery of Bonnie Wright and Emma Watson in my mind. Shudder. Looking forward to finding out who will be playing the adult Ginny and Hermione, though...

Anyway, I hope this isn't the end of the Potter universe. The books have been part of my life since '97 and since I'm from '85, that's almost half my life.

I agree that some parts felt extremely rushed. The epilogue comes to mind immiediately. Lupin and Tonks dying should have been written out completely so we can read what happened for ourselves. Still a very good book and a fairly good way to end the series.

I didn't really find that part to be creepy. I found it pretty straight forward. The guy loved no other woman except Lily. The closest thing to her was Harry and he had the same exact eyes as she did. I found it kind of fitting that all he wanted to do was see her eyes again before he died considering everything he did he did for her. But maybe it's just me.

Bah, stalk is just a five letter word for love!

Seriously - I felt for Snape after reading the last three or four books. I mean to go thru all that crap for a woman that ditched you for another guy? Snape was a bigger man that I would have been.

I'd have killed James, Lilly, Harry and everyone else remotely related to them.

Edited, Aug 29th 2007 5:20pm by vyodar

Having just read the series from start to finish over the last month (refused to open it until the final book was done.

my impressions... the publisher should have given her the final book back and told her to re-write at least the last 10 chapters, because they sucked.

The good.

The overall story line was excellent, well thought out and clever. The Holy trinity interacted well and had the necessary flaws that good hero's show.

The death eater finally appeared menacing, and Bellatrix's insanity was well used. The almost failure of many plans was enjoyable since it added some much needed realism to the whole affair.

Doddy's death was great, fantastic end for a secondary charicter.

Snapes memory section was also excellent, giving humanity to a charicter you hoped wasn't a bad guy, truely redeaming himself, couldn't understand why he didn't get a poirtait as he wa a headmaster.

the whole split soul idea was nice and it was great when it turned out Harry was one.

Oh and finally Percy see's the light!!!

The Bad

Her charicter development was poor to abysmal once you got past the main three charicters and there was so many lost opportunities to make charicter memorable it was painful. You know i think she was scared we (The reader) would like another charicter more than the holy trinity.

Of the major deaths Tonks, Freds and Lupins where handled incredibly badly, credit wher credit is due Dobby's was done very well but Snapes could and should have been so much more.

the Ginny relationship was totally ignored even when the given reason (VM would use it against Harry) was totally null and void, thus an opportunity to advance the Ron/Hermiony situation was utterly missed and ended up looking clumsy and false.

The death of VM's snake was poorly done and again an opportunity was missed, the "distraction could have been better handled and used to promote another charicter. I personally would have had Draco save Neville and had Lucius die to save his son, that would have shown the care for his son that Rowling tried unsucsessfully to make convincing for the latter half of the book.

The Ugly.

the 200+ wasted pages detailing Harry hermiony and Ron ******** at each other in a forest and then a finalle that lacked 50 pages.

there is so much about this book that should have been done differently, secondary charicters that should have been developed, relationships that where left half done charicters that could have been redeamed that wheren't (Draco and Narcissa in particular.)