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#1 Jul 03 2007 at 11:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Anybody else read and enjoy this series?
My favorite characters are Peter and Mzer Rackham,
And my favorite teams are Rat and Dragon.
#2 Jul 07 2007 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
I read the first one. Maybe it was just me, I don't know, but I really did not enjoy it. For whatever reason people worship this author and I just don't understand it. I thought the book was extremely slow moving and at points the story was almost painful to read. Just based on my reading the first one I refuse to read any of Card's other novels.

Did you ever just find an author where despite all the rave reviews you hate their writing style? That's where I am with Card.
#3 Jul 09 2007 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
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There's a Gazillion threads on this subject go read them.
#4 Jul 10 2007 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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#5 Jul 13 2007 at 5:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have read this book and I thuroughly enjoyed it. I did not find it to be that slow of a read that it became more tedious than enjoyable. Some of the books after ender's game were really slow moving and that is why I have not finished the series. I enjoyed the broad concepts that were put forward and the sense of justice that I recieved after reading Ender's Game.
#6 Jul 17 2007 at 3:31 AM Rating: Good
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#7 Jul 29 2007 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
Brill wrote:
I read the first one. Maybe it was just me, I don't know, but I really did not enjoy it. For whatever reason people worship this author and I just don't understand it. I thought the book was extremely slow moving and at points the story was almost painful to read. Just based on my reading the first one I refuse to read any of Card's other novels.

Did you ever just find an author where despite all the rave reviews you hate their writing style? That's where I am with Card.


I've read a great many Card books, and I'm just not sold. His Mormon faith colors his books to such a great extent that I often cannot take them seriously. His attitude is arrogant and his books just don't warrant that arrogance. Sure, Ender's Game is a fun pulpy read... but have you read the sequels? My god such dry pompous preaching.

Perhaps I'm just spoiled by Gene Wolfe. He is a practicing Catholic, most of his books deal with religion on an extremely deep level, but his books are so endlessly creative, imaginative, and complex that I cannot help but consider him to be the finest sci-fi author to ever exist.
#8 Aug 01 2007 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
I just couldn't get into the book. Just wasn't my style. It moved extremely slow for me. Though it could have been because it was so painful to read.
#9 Aug 01 2007 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I read the entirety of Ender's Game one night when my internet completely failed, and I was too pissed about it to go to bed. I couldn't put the book down, started at about 1 and went to sleep around 7.

I didn't read the sequals though (though I do own one of them, saved for the next internet malfunction) and I will say that, as much as I enjoyed Ender's Game, the ending of it was creeeeeeeeepy. I'm guessing that the sequal deals with all of that creepy "Speaker for the Dead" stuff.
#10 Aug 04 2007 at 2:53 PM Rating: Good
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I really enjoyed Ender's Game, simply because the hero was so kick-***. It's like The Fountainhead with fewer {******* Sword}s and more aliens. I really don't think Card ever understood the appeal of his own book though. He's even said that he wrote the novel-length version just to set up Speaker for the Dead.

Ever since then he's written to get his (nearly cliche) ideas and (almost bigoted) philosophy out there, instead of the cerebral swashbuckling we've come to expect.

Ender's Shadow and it's sequels fit more in the spirit of the original, but the plots are not as believable. Still I've reread both series a few times and I enjoy them.
#11 Aug 07 2007 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
So wait a plot about a little boy and his classmates playing a game that is in fact a real life battle going on in space far far away is "believeable?" Smiley: lol I'm just messing with you.
#12 Aug 19 2007 at 1:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is one of my favorite books and I have a copy signed by Card.
#13 Aug 24 2007 at 6:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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The first book was fun but I really just enjoyed the character development and the tricks used in the games more than the underlying sub-plot and trash about cultural collisions and morality of war and demonizing of the enemy and blah, blah... It also made me want to play some laser tag.

I liked the idea of the second book and the concept of a Speaker for the Dead but the novel itself was kind of slow going and didn't leave me inspired to read the rest of 'em.
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#14 Sep 26 2007 at 4:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Brill wrote:
I read the first one. Maybe it was just me, I don't know, but I really did not enjoy it. For whatever reason people worship this author and I just don't understand it. I thought the book was extremely slow moving and at points the story was almost painful to read. Just based on my reading the first one I refuse to read any of Card's other novels.

Did you ever just find an author where despite all the rave reviews you hate their writing style? That's where I am with Card.


If you found this story painful to read, I wouldn't read any more of OSC's stuff. I'm a big fan of OSC. In fact, I'm re-listening to the Ender's Game audiobook now. But he has a habit of making the me care for a character or characters in a book and doing something to them right in the middle of the book that just breaks my heart. I've come to expect it now.

As far as rave-review authors that don't impress me, Robert Heinlein and L. Ron Huddard are my picks. I think the characters these guys create are consistently shallow. I still enjoyed Hubbard's Mission Earth series and Heinlein's book Starship Troopers in spite of this though. Stranger in a Strange Land is one of Heinlein's signature stories, but about three quarters of the way through, I couldn't take any more. I just put it down and never looked back.

Edited, Sep 26th 2007 9:41am by BigDaveB
#15 Sep 30 2007 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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i'm shocked tofind someone else how liked the Mission Earthbooks, most people hate them.

I think i just have a weird sence of humour cos i loved them.
#16 Sep 30 2007 at 1:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can't stand hubbard personally.
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#17 Feb 20 2008 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
I also love this book. I've read it too many times to count. It's a real easy read which is great. I also really like Speaker for the Dead for some reason. They're like two different books really, and I like them for different reasons.

Another book by Card I like is the Worthing Saga.

I haven't tried reading much of his other stuff though, didn't interest me enough to pick it up and read. I tried reading Pastwatch, but couldn't get into it and stopped reading it.
#18 Feb 20 2008 at 9:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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In retrospect, I find it pretty funny that there was this futuristic world or aliens and space ships and zero-grav laser-training centers and, in it all...

Ender's brother and sister gain massive political power across the known galaxy by debating in lengthy political screeds on blogs. It's good to know I can rise to power one day if I spend enough time on Politico and Daily Kos.

But, hey, it sounded good back before the internet was the thing it is today.
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#19 Apr 01 2008 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Anybody else read and enjoy this series?
My favorite characters are Peter and Mzer Rackham,
And my favorite teams are Rat and Dragon.


This is my favourite science fiction series of all time. I loved Peter, a whole lot.

I've read every book in the main series but I have not touched the new series with Bean. I dunno, why.
#20 Apr 02 2008 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Anybody else read and enjoy this series?


Read, yes. Enjoyed, no, but then again I'm not nine years old.

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#21 May 04 2008 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I've had quite a few people who had very similar tastes in books as me recommend Ender's Game, I just have never gotten around to reading it. >_< Looks like they're making a movie of it though...

Ender's Game movie

Release Date: TBA 2008
Genre: Action, Sci-Fi
Running Time: Not available
MPAA Rating: Not Rated
Director: Wolfgang Petersen
Writer: David Benioff, Dan Weiss, Orson Scott Card
Cast: NA
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