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#1 Feb 20 2007 at 2:04 AM Rating: Decent
I didn't see a thread around discussing this show, so...

I really loved this when it aired here, but didn't had the chance to see all episodes. Got me the whole box for christmas and just finished it. Got to say i really love it more now.

I really loved the cross season storyline with Babylon 4. As with the Shadow war.

Any one else loved this show?
#2 Feb 28 2007 at 6:45 PM Rating: Good
I really enjoyed it when it was still on the air. Still pissed me off that Marcus died. Some of the episodes got a bit too preachy for my tastes with all the religious undertones but all in all a great series.
#3 Mar 04 2007 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
Indeed. They could have used the same machine to save him as Marcus used to save Ivanova. Marcus was the cool character when Garabaldi left B5. Loved his British humor.

But how do you mean the Religiuos undertones in some episodes? All i can imagine are the episodes with Brother Theo for Christianity.

Or what really was preachy was the episode in which Sinclair brought 3000 religions from Earth.
#4 Apr 07 2007 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
B5 was certainly one of my favorite tv shows. Susan was one of my favorite Sci-Fi characters with Marcus a close 2nd. The show had lots of good writing with wit and humor that was never seen in TV before.
#5 Apr 09 2007 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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But how do you mean the Religiuos undertones in some episodes? All i can imagine are the episodes with Brother Theo for Christianity.

Or what really was preachy was the episode in which Sinclair brought 3000 religions from Earth.


Honestly it was the whole Sheridan being reborn and seen almost as a deity that I wasn't particularly into.

I thought Marcus generally had some of the best dialogue that the writers would put in. I was never an enormous fan of Delenn for some reason either. I liked her but I just never thought she served much purpose aside from being the woman Sheridan loved etc.
#6 Apr 18 2007 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
Brill wrote:


Honestly it was the whole Sheridan being reborn and seen almost as a deity that I wasn't particularly into.


Yeah, you can look at it that way. I never saw it though. But do you think it was with a religiuos undertone?

Brill wrote:

I thought Marcus generally had some of the best dialogue that the writers would put in. I was never an enormous fan of Delenn for some reason either. I liked her but I just never thought she served much purpose aside from being the woman Sheridan loved etc.


Harnao wrote:

B5 was certainly one of my favorite tv shows. Susan was one of my favorite Sci-Fi characters with Marcus a close 2nd. The show had lots of good writing with wit and humor that was never seen in TV before.


I really liked the love hate relationship from Garibaldi with Londo and G'Kar.
When any one of those 2 met Garibaldi it was fun. After them it was Marcus and Susan. I loved her on her own though.
imdb wrote:

Susan Ivanova: Confirmed Survey 1. Upon arrival you will report for debriefing. And just one more thing, on your trip back I want you to take the time to learn the Babylon 5 mantra. Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova's recommendations. Ivanova is God. And if this ever happens again
[shouts]
Susan Ivanova: Ivanova will personally rip your lungs out! Babylon control out.
[to herself]
Susan Ivanova: Civilians.
[looks up]
Susan Ivanova: Just kidding about that God part. No offense.

Still makes me laugh thinking about that one.

I didn't like Delenn to. No real meaning unless she needed to save the day with some Minbari cruisers. I always wonderd how that was possible. Some one from the religious caste(sp?) having so much influence over the warriors caste. Ok, she was Dukhat's succesor, but even he didn't had that much influence.
#7 Apr 18 2007 at 3:13 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, you can look at it that way. I never saw it though. But do you think it was with a religiuos undertone?

Honestly, there were far too many similarities to Christianity with the whole died, reborn issue. It got a bit too heavy for me, though that might just be my view of it.
#8 Apr 19 2007 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
Brill wrote:

Honestly, there were far too many similarities to Christianity with the whole died, reborn issue. It got a bit too heavy for me, though that might just be my view of it.


Indeed, you are correct. And Garibaldi agreed with you so, guess you both can't be wrong :). Just never saw it that way. Well in that perspective doesn't that make Garibaldi abit of Judas, and how do you call him, The first one, God?
#9 Apr 21 2007 at 6:58 AM Rating: Good
Maybe I've been brainwashed like Garibaldi............
#10 Apr 21 2007 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
Brill wrote:
Maybe I've been brainwashed like Garibaldi............


Hehe, that must be it.

That reminds me, need to look back into a season 2 episode. ISN where visiting Babylon 5 and they had a comercial for PsciCorps. There was a shadow comercial in that comercial. Never saw what was written there.
#11 Apr 21 2007 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
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GieG wrote:
Brill wrote:
Maybe I've been brainwashed like Garibaldi............


Hehe, that must be it.

That reminds me, need to look back into a season 2 episode. ISN where visiting Babylon 5 and they had a comercial for PsciCorps. There was a shadow comercial in that comercial. Never saw what was written there.


You mean the subliminal message that flashed at the end? It was something like, "PsyCorps is your friend. Trust PsyCorps." I might not have it verbatim, but it's close.



#12 Apr 25 2007 at 1:54 PM Rating: Excellent
How would you know about the messages?! We will be sending a security team for you soon.
#13 Apr 27 2007 at 4:21 AM Rating: Good
Ambrya wrote:

You mean the subliminal message that flashed at the end? It was something like, "PsyCorps is your friend. Trust PsyCorps." I might not have it verbatim, but it's close.


Damn, you are good. Thats right on.

And thank you for subliminal, didn't knew the English word :)

Brill wrote:

How would you know about the messages?! We will be sending a security team for you soon.


Lol good one :)
#14 May 03 2007 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
I really feel they had a plan with this series. Like the story was written before shooting it. Unlike most shows when I have the feeling they only have one season to air, and after that it can go anyway they want.

They told a story they wanted to tell, and then they shoot it. ( forgeting the spinoff to give my argument more power :) )

Every episode had something to add to the story. So it wasn't 5 seasons of the show. It was just one big season.

But thats what I believe :)
#15 May 03 2007 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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GieG wrote:
I really feel they had a plan with this series. Like the story was written before shooting it. Unlike most shows when I have the feeling they only have one season to air, and after that it can go anyway they want.

They told a story they wanted to tell, and then they shoot it. ( forgeting the spinoff to give my argument more power :) )

Every episode had something to add to the story. So it wasn't 5 seasons of the show. It was just one big season.

But thats what I believe :)


You're mostly right. J. Michael Strazinsky had the entire series outlined years before it ever went into production, and it was fully intended to be a multi-season narrative arc. There were, however, a few places where things had to make an abrupt change, such as switching out Sinclair for Sheridan after the first season, and the fact that they wrapped all the loose ends up prematurely for the end of the fourth season because they didn't think they would be picked up for a fifth season. If you ever checked the episode production numbers, "Sleeping In Light" (which aired as the 5th season finale) was actually produced to be 4x23--the fourth season finale. When they got picked up for another season, they held off airing the episode for the true series finale.

When TNT picked them up for the 5th season, they kinda had a wing it, which is why the season seems a bit disconnected from the rather seamless flow of the rest of the narrative. I'm reasonably certain that telepath conflict was meant to happen with Ivanova (being an undetected latent telepath) in charge of the station, and it didn't work nearly as well when Claudia Christian left the series and they had to plug in Tracy Scoggins (blech!) instead.

Edited, May 3rd 2007 5:20pm by Ambrya
#16 May 04 2007 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
Ambrya wrote:


There were, however, a few places where things had to make an abrupt change, such as switching out Sinclair for Sheridan after the first season, and the fact that they wrapped all the loose ends up prematurely for the end of the fourth season because they didn't think they would be picked up for a fifth season.


Ok, why did they exchange Sinclair in the 1st place? I always found him better then Sheridan

Ambrya wrote:

I'm reasonably certain that telepath conflict was meant to happen with Ivanova (being an undetected latent telepath) in charge of the station, and it didn't work nearly as well when Claudia Christian left the series and they had to plug in Tracy Scoggins (blech!) instead.


Ivanovo was always a favorate of mine. I hated when they replaced her :( Or did she refuse another season?
#17 May 04 2007 at 1:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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GieG wrote:
Ambrya wrote:


There were, however, a few places where things had to make an abrupt change, such as switching out Sinclair for Sheridan after the first season, and the fact that they wrapped all the loose ends up prematurely for the end of the fourth season because they didn't think they would be picked up for a fifth season.


Ok, why did they exchange Sinclair in the 1st place? I always found him better then Sheridan


Not sure, but I think the actor was fired. No idea why, but I didn't mind. He was always a bit stilted and cardboard-like to me.


GieG wrote:
Ambrya wrote:

I'm reasonably certain that telepath conflict was meant to happen with Ivanova (being an undetected latent telepath) in charge of the station, and it didn't work nearly as well when Claudia Christian left the series and they had to plug in Tracy Scoggins (blech!) instead.


Ivanovo was always a favorate of mine. I hated when they replaced her :( Or did she refuse another season?


Claudia Christian wanted to leave, not sure what, if anything, the idea that they were operating on the assumption that fourth season would be the last had to do with her decision. But Tracey Scoggins was god-awful, but the actress and the character.



Edited, May 4th 2007 6:04pm by Ambrya
#18 May 26 2007 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
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Claudia Christian wanted to leave, not sure what, if anything, the idea that they were operating on the assumption that fourth season would be the last had to do with her decision. But Tracey Scoggins was god-awful, but the actress and the character.

Edited, May 4th 2007 6:04pm by Ambrya


How about the spin off? Never got to see it here, is that any good? I heard terrible things about it.

Edited, May 27th 2007 1:49am by GieG
#19 May 27 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
The spin off was completely forgettable. Point of fact, I think all Babylon 5 fans try to forget about that one Smiley: schooled
#20 May 27 2007 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
Brill wrote:
The spin off was completely forgettable. Point of fact, I think all Babylon 5 fans try to forget about that one Smiley: schooled


That's what I thoughed. It was never aired here, but still want to see it I think?. Any of the original crew there besides Sheridan?

Edit spelling :(

Edited, May 28th 2007 3:21am by GieG
#21 May 29 2007 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
Honestly I would have to go and look. But there weren't many aside from a couple of quick cameos. It was a terrible way for the show to end up. Ah well, we still have Battlestar Galactica Smiley: grin
#22 May 30 2007 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good
Brill wrote:
Honestly I would have to go and look. But there weren't many aside from a couple of quick cameos. It was a terrible way for the show to end up. Ah well, we still have Battlestar Galactica Smiley: grin


Indeed, I'm almost through season 2, but I enjoy it very much. Had to get used to Starbuck being a girl though. But very good show.
#23 May 30 2007 at 3:42 PM Rating: Good
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Indeed, I'm almost through season 2, but I enjoy it very much. Had to get used to Starbuck being a girl though. But very good show.

Yeah and Boomer being a woman as well. Though I would definitely say that Grace Park as Boomer is much better than the Boomer from the old series. She's awesome.
#24 Aug 07 2007 at 5:11 AM Rating: Good
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THe lost tales of Bab 5 just came out. It has 2 short stories on at and the First one about a excorsism is amoung the best episode I have ever sat thru. The second one was just ok.

On a side note I saw that Strazinksi looks like he going to be doing the movie adaption of World war Z. I cant wait for that!
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#25 Aug 07 2007 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
Oh nice, thank you :) Pre ordered it, release date 09-17. Can't wait :)
#26 Aug 07 2007 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
The hamsters ate my post :( Will pop up eventually I guess.

Just saying, thank you and rate up for pointing it to me :)

Yup, finaly they both made it

Edited, Aug 7th 2007 9:41pm by GieG
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