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#1 Jan 24 2006 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I have been engulfed in this series from the first sentance to the last word I read last night. It is a series of (to date) 11 books that have started down a forested path and has led me into a world that is ever expanding.
I have read The Belgarad and The Milarian (sorry spelling) series (Love Silk aka Prince Kelder and Durnik), the Dragon Lance series and Wizards First rule along with many others, and by far I have been more entertained and became more engrossed in these than any other.
Jordon's writing is not flowery and to the point but maintains intelligance and wit. Book 10 has slowed down the series quite a bit but it sets up events to bring all the characters back together later on.
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#2 Jan 25 2006 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Jordon's writing is not flowery and to the point but maintains intelligance and wit.


While I enjoyed this series very much, and Jordan is a fellow alumnus, did you just skim through it?
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#3 Jan 29 2006 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Books 1-5 where a fantasy masterpiece, 6-8 showed a slow decline to medicority and unfortunately from that point on they have been pale shadows of the earlier books and by book 10 had reduced to painfull drivel of the sort that should be banned from the bookshelves.

An extreme disappointment.
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#4 Feb 10 2006 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
I gotta agree with Tarv on this one. Although I will say the latest one (Knife of Dreams I think?) at least started to appear to bring some closure to some things.

The guy throws so many **** characters into it that you have a hard time keeping track of who's who. And you might not ever see some of them again. It's a confusing mess.

I'd go more into it but there's probably 3 or 4 more threads on this series in this forum, and I'm sure I've commented on a few of them.
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#5 Feb 14 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Decent
I completely agree with the above 2 posts. The series started great, then became utterly unreadable. Now, with Knife of Dreams, Jordan seems to have remembered how to write again. Let's hope this trend continues for the series. It probably would have been much better at 10 books instead of 13.

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#6 Feb 23 2006 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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My comments mirror those above to a point - I was so confused by the admitted extra plot-lines that Robert Jordan (RJ) throws into the mix in this series. If anyone hasn't, they should get the big white book (can't recall name at the moment - will edit when I do). Its an almanac of sorts that really takes you through the big ideas of the books (up through 9 or 10) and has some really nice illustrations that stick with you.

For uber geeks (like myself) who want to know more about the inner workings or take a trip through the world of jordan, you should pick up Wheel of Time Roleplaying Gamewhich will be a collector as Wizards of the coast will not be making any more.

A final resource for Jordan-ites who can't seem to get enough is the Wheel of Time FAQ. This will provide you a place where TONS of people who have read the books way more times than you or I have collected their ideas and placed them into one pot with theories and such. Even RJ has read it and stated that it is 1/3 correct, 1/3 pretty close but not quite, and 1/3 dead wrong. However, reading it you get some conclusions that at least make sense while we're waiting for book 12. Plus, it gives you a place to submit your own theories after reading the FAQ.

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#8 Apr 14 2006 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I also agree. One thing I gotta say tho, we keep on reading. I don't know if its the hope that they will rise back to previous quality, or that we just can't give up on the characters (and that still says alot about Jordans writing)

I don't know if I am wishing for the ending to finaly come or not. I love the world and people, but **** 11+ books is a lot.
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#9 Apr 14 2006 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I gave up reading several books ago. I figure I might pick it up someday after the series is finished. Of course, with Jordan being terminally ill, it's possible that might never happen.

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#10 May 04 2006 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I will admit, the later books began to bore me, but 11 was fantastic.
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#11 May 23 2006 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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I started this series and then got burned out by book 5, pretty much because of what everyone else said. Did Jordan emphatically state that he decided to end the series at 13 books? I hope so, I really wouldn't want to see this series end up like Friday the 13th movies.
#12 May 24 2006 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
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He's actually quite ill, so the series might never finish. :x
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#13 May 24 2006 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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Robert Jordan has repeatedly said that the main sequence will conclude with the twelfth book, working title A Memory of Light. Numerous times he has said he will hold to this statement even if it has to be 2000 pages long. At some point in the future Jordan plans to write two more short prequel novels, an encyclopedia, and possibly two or three other side-plot novels.


Looks like he might just wind it up with the 12th book.

He started treatments for his illness in April or so.

#14 May 30 2006 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
I'm pretty sure 7-10 where just things for him to make money off of.
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I'm pretty sure 7-10 where just things for him to make money off of.

I would have to agree. I have not yet read book 11 because of this. Book 10 has been nicknamed the weevil book, and I felt it had very little to go on reguarding series progession.
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#16 Sep 18 2006 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I am currently in the process of reading this epic saga I am currently on book 6 and as of yet and thoroughly enjoying it. It's a nice change from the usual Dragonlance series I have been accustomed to reading. Does anybody happen to know how is illness is progressing and if he is or is not recovering? I did not know about him maybe wrapping everything up in book 12 for some reason I find this statement false.
#17 Sep 18 2006 at 7:59 PM Rating: Decent
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jordan has a tendency to go off on tangents and prolong the story more then he should, this much is true. but in knife of dreams the book ended with a feeling (at least IMO) that the end is near. i think this series CAN successfully be wrapped up in 1-2 books without any feelings that he was rushed
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#18 Sep 19 2006 at 4:44 AM Rating: Decent
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See the thing is while I am sure he could wrap it up from what I have read him say it is such a huge part of his life do you actually think he will wrap it up in one or two more books? I'm not totally convinced he wants the series to end.
#19 Sep 19 2006 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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yes i do think he will wrap it up, i also think afterwards he will either start a new story with same characters or go off on side stories, or give histories etc
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#20 Sep 20 2006 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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I share sentiments with most on this series. The first four books for me were captivating. Book five was still ok and book six I think I actually finished reading at some point. I think it was the long down time between releasing book 6 or 7...or maybe it was 5 and 6 that caused me to lose interest.

Waiting for a year to continue reading about a zillion characters and plot lines was just too much to bear. There was no way I was gonna go back and reread previous books because I couldn't remember who was who and who was doing what, so I dumped the series.



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#21 Sep 24 2006 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Someday they're gonna make another companion to go along with all of the other "newer" books... Gonna need an air tank for something of this kind of depth... Histories of the assembly of the Hundred Companions would be nice, what with most of them having names and such...
#22 Sep 25 2006 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd have to agree, but only slightly, since i'm only up to the fourth book now. It's taken be awhile to finish the first three due mainly to schooling, projects, and other normal life stuff. But i sometimes forget who a character is or what they did when i finally do pick up reading the series again. I'm enjoying it right now, but i sometimes find the side ramblings driving me insane.. and it's at this point in time I put the book down and go draw a picture, while moping about extended plots.

Everyone who read through all eleven books.. should get a GIANT cookie, since that's how many thousands of pages? :/
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#23 Sep 27 2006 at 2:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Like Jraice, I too am on book 4 and I am really enjoying it. However, I cannot help but notice that there are alot of similarities between the WoT and another little fantasy novel series called The Lord of the Rings. You may have heard of it.
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#24 Sep 27 2006 at 9:43 PM Rating: Default
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Bah Robert Jordan created a whole other world from Tolkein, the only similarity is that they're fantasy books.

I'd really like to know how his illnes is going.

I've wanted since about book 8 to find a lot of time to devote to reading the series over and compiling a character info notebook to reference for the later books. He really does go too far with his side character plots, then 2 books later that side character shows up again as if we remember wth he was. Little hints abound to give the reader clues to the future and character motives, but with around 2 years between most of the recent books I've got no way of remembering 1 line from page 562 of book 7 six years later when I'm on page 734 of book 10.

But I picked up the eye of the world pretty close to when it came out and have followed the books faithfully, even rereading the series when a new book took too long to come out. I just need something like that compendium by now to really follow the plot. It's a great saga (aside from book 10), and I really hope he lives to finish it .... and does finish it!!
#25 Oct 20 2006 at 5:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I love the WoT series. I have read all, or most of , the Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms, Pern , Lord of the Rings, Thomas Covenant (still need to read the new one, with his son as hero), Brian Lumley, Stephen King, Dean Koontz, and likea million other different authors.

Only complaint I have about Jordan's writing is his seemingly anticlimatic endings. For me , it is like he just keeps building you up and up then his ending is finished in 2 pages. Bleh. Btw, remember when that M-named Aes Sedai went stumbling and bumbling thru the portal into another dimension while fighting? We ever gonna hear from her again? And what bout that weird otherplace (dimension) where she is and possibly where Matt went off to? Can we get some tie in there? Or did I just seem to miss it?

Well, just got done reading Stephen King's Dark Tower series (ending ****** me off) , so I am going to go back and read WoT book 10 Crossroads of Twilight to get refreshed on the plot so when I hit book 11 I have some clue as to where I am.
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#26 Dec 12 2006 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Btw, remember when that M-named Aes Sedai went stumbling and bumbling thru the portal into another dimension while fighting? We ever gonna hear from her again? And what bout that weird otherplace (dimension) where she is and possibly where Matt went off to? Can we get some tie in there? Or did I just seem to miss it?


I don't want to spoil this for you, so just keep reading. RJ hasn't forgotten it.

I've read them all and am waiting for the final book 12. Yes, it'll definitely be final, RJ himself said so very straight. He has no more places left to split the story, it'll have to be the last book even if it's 2000 pages long.

Books 1 to 6 were the best ones and it just kept getting better, and after that the story was just not getting anywhere. Book 11 was good again though, and since he has set the last book up for several books, I expect it will be great. I above all can't wait for him to wrap the White Tower part up, it's been dragged on for so long.

There's a lot of information about RJ's illness at Dragonmount(which also has RJ's blog), so go there if you want to find out more about it. In short, it's a currently incurable sickness that has no definitely working medication, but he is alive and under medication, which may or may not work. He has also recently said that he is considering having someone else finish the last book, should he die before he can finish it, so I believe we will see the end to the story sooner or later. It would be a shame if he couldn't finish it himself, though.
#27 Dec 12 2006 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I loved the series since it started, and while it did grow humongous in terms of cast and plot, I ate it up wanting more. It's too bad this will be it for the series, I was hoping to see Jain Farstrider come out of his tatters or to see more depth of the Seanchan lands.

Anyway, great series and I liked the New Spring story just as much. I've long missed the type of character he puts into Moiraine, and reading that satiated my need for the time being.

My heart goes out to him and the family, and my donation goes out to the Mayo clinic :)

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#28 Mar 07 2007 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I loved these books. Ten could use some work. I don't have to know the names of every frickin' Aes Sedai. Other than that I enjoyed the series. Mostly read to find out what's going on with the Matrim Cauthon character, since he is the only one who hasn't gotten boring over the whole adventure.
If you want a little more insight on the characters and plots, one might consider reading T.H. Whites, "Once and Future King."
Most of Jordan's characters share names with at least half of those in the, "Once and Future King." Including characters like Mordeth. You don't even have to pay attention to notice the huge similarities and name taking.
Still enjoyed it though.
#29 Mar 07 2007 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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it started up well, but there honestly was no need to make it a 12 book series. I enjoy dense fantasy, but after awhile too much length just kills any desire to read it.

at least he isnt as bad as piers anthony, who just murdered his xanth series over the course of 30+ books.
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#30 Apr 09 2007 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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I read the first few books but I really don't have anything positive or redeeming to say about Jordon. He has held onto this series for far too long as has done nothing but drag it along how many years now. My father loved this series and I abolutely despise it.
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Derivative drawn out painful to read drek. Is to decent fantasy writing what 'The OC' is to Catcher in the Rye.



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I tried re-reading the series, as it had been a couple years since I had.

1-3 was ok fantasy, 4&5 had their moments, 6 I found myself wanting to skip entire story lines, I couldn't even finish book 7 again. I almost couldn't care if he manages to rush out the final book before he succumbs to whatever rare disease he is dying form.
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#33 Apr 14 2007 at 2:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I almost couldn't care if he manages to rush out the final book before he succumbs to whatever rare disease he is dying form.


Plagiarism?

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Smasharoo wrote:

I almost couldn't care if he manages to rush out the final book before he succumbs to whatever rare disease he is dying form.


Plagiarism?


Don't make him send the Bene Gesser.... I mean Aesedai along with a batallion of Fremem ... I mean Aeil after you!!!!
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#35 Apr 18 2007 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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Wait are we talking about Jordon now or Dennis McKiernan?
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