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#1 Mar 01 2010 at 2:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi. Feel free to introduce yourselves at qcdn.org, our server community. Its why quetz has 7k posts on alla compared to 71k here. Will be interesting having new faces.
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#2 Mar 01 2010 at 5:25 AM Rating: Good
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Funny that cos from what I've heard from people who've made mules over on the unspellable server - you guys don't want us any more than we want to be sent over there.
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#3 Mar 01 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
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No one wants to merge servers but that doesnt mean we wont like you guys. I would ask that the dynamis shells sue the calendar on qcdn so we dont have a rough start at least.
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#4 Mar 01 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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I hang with the same 8-10 people on Midgard as I will on Queasy-whatever. I don't think I'll notice a difference. I was only hoping I could make some cash on AH transactions... but looks like prices are on par... sneaky SE...

Only thing I am bummed about is that 2 of my friends are in the initial wave of FFXIV testing and I am not :(

Aside from that, life goes on. I will just have a larger population to try and ignore now :)
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#5 Mar 02 2010 at 8:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Alobont wrote:
No one wants to merge servers but that doesnt mean we wont like you guys. I would ask that the dynamis shells sue the calendar on qcdn so we dont have a rough start at least.
I really do feel sorry for everyone who is doing Dynamis. I really have no idea how it's ever going to work. Schedules are going to conflict hardcore, and you know it's just going to get worse with a level cap raise. *shudder*
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Going to get worse when the population of the servers are suddenly back at 2007/8 levels again as well. And the QCDN site doesn't load at the moment for half the world - so I'm not anticipating peace love and fluffyness over dynamis scheduling somehow... not going to be pretty.

Thinking at the moment this might be the end of the road for me - going to see out the next month and see how things are after that, but meeeh...
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#7 Mar 02 2010 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Why doesnt qcdn no work??? Try googling and going to it from there, sometime it acts wonky.
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I welcome you all to Quetzalcoatl. Just be forewarned, alot of two-faced people on the server, myself being one of them to the people I really dislike.

I welcome a new group of people to harvest souls of events with me, as the last remaining few shells on this Server like to outcast players when they are shunned down for innate lies about them, then continue to shun and outcast their members after they've been proven wrong in the aspect of those lies being proved to be lies. Too much Drama on Quetzalcoatl, and their Flameboard on QCDN.org uses that drama on their flameboard to feed their site members. As without it, QCDN would be a dull place.

Be forewarned, from being on Quet for nearly 4.5 years, any person who has come to Quetzalcoatl has been outcast because of the bad things another transfer has did/done. You will be treated no different in this regard.

Do not get me wrong, there is a huge majority of Quetzalcoatl who will welcome and enjoy your company, but for those players whom rule and control the server from being the main shells on those servers, will show you no mercy nor pity when they automatically outcast you into the abyss because they will not like how your Dynamis schedules are ran on Midgard, and will insist you follow their scheduling instead...or be outcast forever as a hated person(s)or known server-wide as a "Zone Jacker".

For everything else, HNM is nearly dead besides a couple LSs that do it without nearly any competition.

Barely any EU here either, so it'll be nice to see some EU people from Midgard come, as well.

Nicolette is one of the original, cool people of Quetzalcoatl, and is a Genuine person when you speak to them. And damn can their DNC DD. lol Alobont has a cool ass COR too. Lucky bastard got +9 Acc Augment on his Martial Gun.

Seeya here, and I am Xzerper on Quetzalcoatl. Nice to meet you.

Edited, Mar 3rd 2010 5:49am by Escaflone
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#9 Mar 03 2010 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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Don't worry we've all been nicely threatened about it all (gave the warm and fuzzies).

As for the qcdn thing not working... stick /ffxi at the end of it and it does apparently - but might not want to go there since they're not happy, we're not happy, the entire planet's not happy about this.
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#10 Mar 03 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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Found the QC site fine with google but it won't let me register there, keeps giving a sorry can't register message, so I'll post here :).

The perception that "we" are going to "their" world is wrong to me. Both worlds are going to a new world that due to SE being lazy shares the name of an old world. If we had a choice of worlds to go to that would be different, then we would be going to "their" world for those that chose to. Post apocalypse day 1, the day of the transfer, every thing starts over for everyone. There is no history, no my way, no our way...it's a new world for all, some just have the advantage of not losing names & linkshells :).

Since the dyna shell I was in died a few months back :(, good group of people...just not enough left to do dyna any more, so I'll be able to avoid possible drama there probably :). Sadly I'm stuck with hordes of partial af2 that isn't complete and I can't bring myself to toss.

So far I can't seem to find anything on a level cap change so where are people finding this :)? The idea of a new cap makes me very unhappy... Will people have to get 99 before getting merits now? The amount of xp needed to get all those extra levels, egads!
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#11 Mar 04 2010 at 12:55 PM Rating: Default
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Van your wrong, you guys are transfering to our server, there isnt some new server. We dont have to worry about our names changing but you guys do. So it is "our" world and not some new one.

Most quetzey people are just upset because theres still lots of people doing dyna, and its gonna get all kinds of @#%^ed up. There are still several large NA shells 30+ and a strong JP presence in Dyna still.

Im sure the botting shells are mad also they have competition.
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Yep this whole "our world" crap is what's pushing me more and more toward nuking my account to be honest.

Let's get one thing straight: We. Did. Not. Ask. For. This.

The word was "merge" unfortunately, SE being SE can't even do that right (not as if they didn't have enough summons to pick from to rename servers neutrally). I'm sorry, but I'm not going to bow and scrape and beg for acceptance on a new server - not when the decision's being made from me. Suggest you guys quit the attitude cos coming on here trying to mark your territory and tame us like some dogs peeing up lamposts is getting pretty damned pathetic to be honest - flame me all you like for it, but there's meeting halfway, and then there's bending over preparing to be you-know-what and I'm not going down one of those avenues.

I'm also not going through the motions of "whoo hoo this is going to be great" - because it's not true, and I'm not so scared I feel the need to kiss rear in preparation for the apocalypse.

So thank you for the warm welcome Albont. Really adds to the extreme joy Midgard's getting at the moment and brings a ray of sunshine to our day.
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#13 Mar 04 2010 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I dont know who you guys are talking to, but my "crew" of guys is welcoming the merge. Its been rough lately leveling lower level jobs and doing various missions. Im excited to meet some new people and enjoy new content with new people.

If anyone wants or needs a small social and or medium Dynamis shell let me know I run both. My social is small and we are usually on most nights but its all very cool calm people who like new people.

My Dynamis shell only runs on Saturdays at 9cst. We just started dreamlands last month. Its very laid back as well.

I hope once its all over everything will be brighten up for both sides.
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This isn't a transfer, it is a forced move to a new world. Claiming "our world" and "our way" is just going to lead to drama even among otherwise reasonable people.

Just as QC people seem to be, MG people are generally reasonable and will probably be open to discussion most of the time :).

It might be good for some smaller dyna shells on both worlds to explore a merger, especially if they happen to go at similar times.

Probably it won't be as bad as people fear but there are bound to be some troubles with so many people meeting for the 1st time under less then ideal circumstances.

I'm hoping finding people for xp will be more fun and some ah items available more often, other then that, not looking forward to the forced move to much.

Got the register to work at the QC site and posted a Hi message :).

Edited, Mar 4th 2010 8:06pm by Vamprey
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MIdgard may be moving into Quetz, but it's certainly not quetz who will be running the show. :P
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#16 Mar 04 2010 at 11:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've been trying qcdn.org about twice a day and still can't access it; it sometimes partially loads without formatting/CSS but usually just returns a generic "Firefox can't find this page." Is it always this unreliable or is it just having problems from double the number of people?

At any rate, I stopped doing Dynamis/Limbus a while ago and I likely can keep my name, so I guess overall I'll be ok with the merge. I do think it's being needlessly hostile to try and play the "This is our server so you have to play by our rules" card; I would think it'd be obvious that a server is defined by the people who play on it, not the name that pops up when you log in.

Not to say we'll be "running the show" either; that's just the same hostility in the other direction. There's gonna be a bunch of little clashes while people figure out new schedules, and I do feel bad for shells on both sides. Possibly some of the smaller ones will end up merging? I've done that once or twice with mixed results. If not, you can always console yourself with the knowledge that Dynamis would just have gotten horribly overcrowded once the level cap starts raising anyway (and likely still will, unless something drastic like instancing happens).

My biggest pet peeve is usually having no one to do the WotG quests and missions with, so hopefully that will be easier in this next round with twice the people. I'm also cautiously optimistic about qcdn; if it ever works for me I'll be sure to sign up and post there.
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I'm not prepared to be walked over and ordered around - if SE had given the closing servers one bone, like a choice of underpopulated servers to shift to, anything like that or at least tried to look into issues such as character name - I'd be happier, but the attitude of a few of the Quezy people running over here ordering us how to behave on "their" world is absolutely freaking disgusting and no, I'm not ever the sort to stand there quietly and take that.

As for their website... stick /ffxi at the end of the URL and it works (no idea why).
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#18 Mar 05 2010 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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Whos ordering anyone around? I just simply asked that your dyna shells use our calendar so it trys to prevent gayness. I didnt demand that you all use it I simply asked, since it is an established calendar that most of the NA shells use.

I guess im still confused as to whos "ordering" you guys around.
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Yes, I'm going to qcdn.org/ffxi. No, it still won't work (and by today it won't even load partially like it was earlier). I'm still willing to attribute it to poor bandwidth or something, but it does undermine your case slightly.

While you personally seem a bit more welcoming than whoever on this hypothetical site is making Cesaria so bitter, your post I was addressing was this one:

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Van your wrong, you guys are transfering to our server, there isnt some new server. We dont have to worry about our names changing but you guys do. So it is "our" world and not some new one.


It's that attitude that starts everything on the wrong path. For instance, I agree that it's a fair request to use your Dynamis calendar, if only because to my knowledge Midgar doesn't have a comprehensive one. But hopefully no one makes the mistake of thinking that it legitimizes Quetz shells' claim to their times in case of conflict. Obviously you can't expect incoming shells to simply pencil themselves in at whatever's free, but heavy use of the "our/your" pronouns is just going to encourage that kind of thinking.
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#20 Mar 05 2010 at 9:52 AM Rating: Good
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Seeya here, and I am Xzerper on Quetzalcoatl.


Thanks for giving me advance warning on people to blacklist. Your entire post reeks of arsehole.

I really hope other people on the server are a lot nicer that you're giving me the impression of.

I'll take a look at your little community site because I'm expecting lawlz.

I did not find lawlz. I actually found that people think Xzerper is an idiot there too. =D I feel better.

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#21 Mar 05 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I think qcdn is having issues right now I couldnt connect as well this morning.

SebastionMaugris wrote:

While you personally seem a bit more welcoming than whoever on this hypothetical site is making Cesaria so bitter, your post I was addressing was this one:

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Van your wrong, you guys are transfering to our server, there isnt some new server. We dont have to worry about our names changing but you guys do. So it is "our" world and not some new one.




I didnt mean it as in its OUR server gtfo. I meant it as that he was wrong in thinking there was actually gonna be a new server that everyone was transfering to, having it named quetz. Sorry if that came across wrong cause I was merely addressing the fact that is quetzy you are transfering to and not a new server named quetzy.

I really want the server merge to go well and I welcome you guys. I'm sorry if my above post came out wrong cause I wasnt trying to be @#%^.

As far as Dynamis goes, most of not all the leaders will treat you as the same as they treat everyone else. If you decide to use the calendar we will work with you like any other shell. If you choose not to, then just like anyone else who does the same, a sh*t storm happens.

I never meant to imply that its "our/your" server, sorry if theres some miscommunication.
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QCDN seems to be behaving itself at the moment, so I registered and I'll take a look around. Regarding Vamprey's first post, I think everyone's clear on what's literally happening; he was just making the same point I did further down about the realities of how we'll need to get along.

Also agree with Cesaria that it would have been nicer to the playerbase to give the choice of where to migrate to, but SE has never been known for being nice. Consider that it could also lead right back to huge differences in server populations if everyone didn't pick an even distribution. This way everyone is pissed off on nice, balanced servers.

By the way, does your shell really go just once a week and Dreamland? Because that sounds like it'd have to have a catch. Otherwise I might consider tagging along.
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We only run on Saturdays. We also dod reamlands but we jsut started them so are still working on getting everyone adjusted to the time constraints. Dreamlands has a sepereate point list then city and icelands.

Pheonixdown.freeforums.org is our forum, rules are over there.

As far as attendance goes, im pretty laid back with it. If you miss 3 runs in a row without an excuse your points are reset. If your on vacation for a long time I can freeze your points for you. We allow the 100ccs to be lotted, the ls only takes the singles. We arent the best, nor the best geared shell around but we have a good time. We just celebrated our 1 year anniversary in feb.
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Midgarcoatl would have been a cooler name.
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Quetzardsormr!

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I did not find lawlz. I actually found that people think Xzerper is an idiot there too. =D I feel better.

If by thinking I am an idiot because a fomor friend jacked my account and I got mad about it, then yeah.

If you knew the whole story of my friend not getting their gear back either, and my Dynamis and Salvage shells being broken because of Lies, that person who stole my account spread, then Yeah.

Then me proving they did steal it when they said they didn't, and thus making them look stupid for not taking anything into consideration(specially since I got along with all the members in those shells, I'd have no reason to sh*t talk anyone at all.), Then yeah, I must be an idiot.

It was all because of some Shell tried to back their member, was proven wrong, then continued to dislike me to make thier reputation remain as good as it is/was. I was liked by many people on the server and helped alot, I wasnt disliked till that shell stole everything from my friend, and I fought them for it.

Sorry if the above post seems mean, but I wish you'd know the full story before you even made a comment. I came here greeting you in kind. >.>;

EDIT: Alobont is true to his word, I do not think he intentionally wanted tomake his post seem like it did. He is good people on Quet. Actually ran a nice ZNM linkshell a while back, too.

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Note what I mentioned before, HUGE list of non-arseholes. Only a few Linkshells are douches on the server. Like I said, mostly everyone will welcome everyone from Midgar. Only competition will be disliked on HNM and most likely Dynamis. But that comes naturally from every server.

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Pheonixdown.freeforums.org ......

I know thats not the original PD from beta because they were on midgard from the day retail started...... but alas if I dealt with PD in beta and on Midgard I can deal with them here too.
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Different shell, i amde it like 2 years ago. Its not who your thinking about.
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wow starting a war that don't need to be started! no one asked for this merg but yet if it was the other way around you all be doing the same thing to us, from reading the post here it looks like most the people from our server is asking for a little bit of respect as you all would do the same if we had to join ya'll. there don't need to be this war with the servers i really think it will work itsself out over time if not there going to be alot of dyna jacking and i'm glad i don't run dyna to really care much about it.

in the end you'll just hurting yourself, NA/EU share the dyna zones and really have a good system but i don't think the system will work anymore with idk how many ls coming from your server that do run dyna its just going to be a mess unless you all work it out a merg with ls's..

don't hate the player hate the game. there no need for this war.

I welcome you all to the server and hope you all enjoy your stay. there are both good and bad ppl on this server a few of them have posted on here but i wont say any names.

Welcome and happy hunting

Edited, Mar 17th 2010 9:07am by Kufasoul
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Well, let me be the first to offer you natives some nice, comfortable blankets.

And we'll be way over there planting the Midgar2 flag. You guys just bundle up, wouldn't want any of you to get away, er, I mean, go without.

Edited, Mar 21st 2010 1:49pm by Kelbar
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For those of you having trouble loading qcdn, try this link. If that doesn't work, I really don't know what to tell you.

I personally feel really bad for all the people of Midgardsormr. I know that if it were me, I'd be pretty pissed off. Losing my names would be what would probably irritate me the most. I really think it's a bad idea all in all. There are benefits, but the chaos caused will outweigh them. I dread seeing /sea bhafthicket 75 return 30 and have 20 seeking. Not so much for me (BRD cheater), but for everyone else, it'll suck, and I feel terrible that they're forcing this on all the fine people of Midgardsormr.

However, try to see the good. With more people to draw from, it'll be easier to get things done. Missions, quests, etc.

I really think the reasoning behind these merges is in preparation for the level cap breaking. Think about the amount of content they'll need to add to get us all to 99, not to mention a whole new endgame. The sheer mass of new stuff is unimaginable to me. It will be a new game, and I think if the servers weren't merged, everyone's levels would end up being spread so thin that nothing would get done.

Quez has always been a stable server (though that may mean nothing after today's merger). Be glad you're not moving to Shiva, which I seem to always see on the "world recovered" list.

They're going to have to do something to whitegate. Double the population's lag? Pass on that.

Also: Quetzalcoatl is not harder to spell than Midgardsormr, they're both bizarre. I wonder if they took this into account in the merge?

Anyways, I know none of you want to come here, but it's out of our hands. So, welcome. I think it'll be fun to meet all the new people.
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QCDN started working fine for me about a week after all the accidental drama in this thread, so that's a plus. I'm sure I'll be using it to find Mission groups if I don't see any shouts in Whitegate.

Agree with you that the servers are both equally esoteric to spell, and not hard if you have an attention span longer than a fruit fly. I think the pairing has more to do with the fact that they're both serpents, though.

At any rate, Pikko says they're locking these forums tomorrow. I'll leave the keys on my way out.
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