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#102Mistress LadyElvaanXyn, Posted: Aug 09 2005 at 8:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No, previous poster, you have it wrong. (see first post then come back here)
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Xyn, read the first couple of posts after you. Those weren't flames, or anything, aside from people trying to help a bit. I'm taking a stab here, guessing that you made flame-bait with posting in Caps Lock a little too much. Maybe that's why you got flamed?

I'm not gonna point out much more, it's easy to figure the other stuff out.
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#104 Aug 09 2005 at 10:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Woahwoahwoahwoahwoah.

I thought you said "I don't care what other people think!", and yet here you are with: Wahhh! You're all bullies! The internet words hurt!

You know how to deal with harassment? No? Here it is in layman's terms:

/BLIST

Please, learn to use it.

EDIT: Typo

Edited, Tue Aug 9 14:40:10 2005 by Quinsisdos
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#106 Aug 09 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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I guess what happens normally is people get bitter from not being able to get their money, and they get jealous of others who somehow manage. There goes the finger pointing. ._.

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According to logic posted previously on this board (not by me):
If someone accuses you of buying gil, and you get angry about it, that proves you bought gil.

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Just saying, by this example, don't underestimate the ability of people to think whatever they want despite the evidence presented to them.

Note this is not my opinion, just restating an erroneous opinion someone else said at a previous time



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Besides hearsay and rumor there is no way to /tell people buy gil, so what research were you refering to?

And decency to ask?
"Do you buy gil?"
"No"
"Ok then, glad thats settled"

Why is it so nerve racking for someone to say "I think you bu gil" that you immdiately /blist them. Your gear must be pretty pricey for 2 people to accuse you of gilbuying, especially since Emp hairpin and Leaping Boots are a norm now.


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If buying gil was allowed why would you play this game in the first place?

And why do you insist on making a bigger sene than those who accused others of buying gil? I didn't see the original event leading to this, I'm sure most of us haven't, but once it gets to a forum that's going too far, especially if its something personal...


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Guys I think her point about the blacklisting is that these guys were spamming her with accusations. n_n It wasn't an insta-blist.

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not defending anyone in this but:

Ever play the first Warcraft? ever use a code called potofgold?
Was the game still fun? see my point?

Quote:On a side note, IF it was not against SE's TOS, and making gil was no longer fun to me in game, guess what? That's right, I WOULD BUY GIL!!!



i feel the same way. I used to enter my cheat codes in rpg's. but im not risking getting banned from this game. i realize the situation is different, but lets be honest. who here hasnt used that cheat code for a game?


well? oh crap! you mean i was the only one? Im going to sulk in a corner now.



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I think we've probably all used a cheat code in a game. And how much faster did that game get boring and did we try to find ways to screw with it when we did have all the money in the world? Personally, games got boring for me if I cheated my way through.

I see all these people 'bored' in Jeuno, making casinos and making up games of hide and seek because 'they have nothing better to do,' and I think, wow, you must have done every quest, every mission, gotten every piece of equipment, and be LV 75 in all jobs then, if you actually have nothing better to do in FFXI than sit on your ass and whine.

Not that I would accuse them of gilbuying, because I'm sure most of them just don't want to get off their asses to actually make the effort to do anything else but whine, but it seems to me that if you powerlevel your way through the game, buy all your gil, and get everything you want, that you're going to get bored with actually playing the game and start to look for ways to spice it up, like, for example, scamming people and causing HNMLS drama, that sort of thing.

I'm sure there are actually gilbuyers out there that are perfectly respectable? citizens of Vana'diel and enjoy the game for what it is. I just don't think that the majority probably are.


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Well...I can't speak for all of them, hell I'm not even one of them, but I am around them every waking day...

From my point of view they don't give a damn... IRL anyway...

Eh... The JPs are much more care-free about games than we NAs tend to be from personal experience (that's probably why they kick my a$$ at every fighting game I play).

I personally like the attitude... because really...

"It's just a video game"

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i can relate to the first poster. Though i know vicodin and am friends with him, there has been someone recently who accused me of buying gil out of the blue and for no reason.

Minniedomz

sent me a tell 2 days ago, and wasnt even where i was in jeuno (he/she was in bibiki bay) and said "8/ yeah you guy gil". Of course i was upset and asked why on earth someone would just send me a tell out of the blue like that accusing me of something like that. The reply was "well because u are and everyone knows it."

I was kind of puzzled by who everyone was so i asked who and what proof he had and he told me that everyone was his "HNMLS" and the proof was he "had been monitoring my spending habbits at the ah" and said most of them know i am and refuse to have me in their LS "come on a level 70 job cant afford gear like that". I explained the fact that my wife and i help eachother make our gil and we have spent a lot of time making gil and farming etc. I have been playing for almost 2 years (2 months after the NA pc release) and if i was really a gil buyer youd think id be at 75 in at least 1 job if not 2 by now.

I do have nice gear but ive worked my ass off for all the gear i have and i found my own way of making gil to keep my wife and i happy. There has also been people in our LS that have come to visit my wife and i in real life, and i think if they have seen us in real life and know were not gil buyers then who the hell is he to say anything about me? Anyway this discussion waged on for a while till i had enough and b-listed him. It gets to be a bit much if you even tell the person how you make the majority of your gil and can show them AH proof of it, and they still say something.

Anyway later that day i see him in lower jeuno die and fall to level 72 RDM. I asked someone in my LS what happened and apparently the moron was poisoned and converted while poisoned. I go to check him cuz i personally think its VERY funny and he has the EXPENSIVE rdm gear and this is his first job to the 70s and he hasnt been playing as long as i have. The pot calling the kettle black is awesome, plus hes stupid. At first i was mad the whole day but after seeing that it did the opposite and made my day. ^^


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I hate it when people point fingers about this crap. I wish they would die, or just stop being emotional pricks.


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#107 Aug 11 2005 at 6:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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I came back to read this thread to get my daily laugh and was amazed to see that it was up to three pages. I have just one thing to say about this whole thread and issue. Who cares what someone else thinks. Did you lose sleep over it, did it make you cry, if you want I'll send you some tissues. I know that you still play cause I saw you on. So it couldn't be that bad. Also every post you do just makes you sound dumb. You say the same thing over and over and over and over. You never make sense and that picture of you is definitely not you so i just wanted to say that.

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Say that three times and everything will be better
#108 Aug 12 2005 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
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lmao I don't know about that, MrGiggyFly. That picture is friggin ugly, and it's not too often that you see somebody on the internet pretend they're ugly.

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#109 Aug 12 2005 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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Been trying to think of a way to throw my 2cents into this mix, not because this topic needs bumping, etc., but because it represents an ongoing frustration that seems rampant on these boards. O well, here goes.

I think it is a fair assessment that by the time a thread reaches the point that this one has, it is no longer about the original topic, but rather about emotions and frustrations. It is certainly reflected in the OP's most recent post on this thread.

So what's the point of that? Well simply, congratulations, we all seem to be able to treat one another like dirt.

My grandfather used to tell me before he passed, and I'm sure we have all heard it in one form or another, that if we make the world a better place for our having been a part of it, we have lived a good life.

And here we have people so upset that they persist in tearing one another down. So much easier than building someone up, isn't it?

I have had no dealings with Vicodin, and very few with Xyn. But let me share that one with you.

To say I had been having a bad night would have been an understatement. I was off somewhere, ls removed, doing my best not to explode on a random tirade.

I received a /tell from Xyn asking if i was interested in doing 5-2. Unfortunately, I had to decline, due to not having completed 5-1.

Now here's a surprise for you. After she completed her rank 6, she again sent me a /tell, asking if I would like her help w/ 5-1. Surprise, surprise. Can you imagine, someone willing to go out of their way for no benefit to themselves whatsoever?

Why do we have to paint people into roles of good guy/bad guy, then refuse to let them walk any other path?

Anyways, that was way off topic >.<

To stray back to the topic at hand...

To both Vicodin and Xyn, outside of /blist, GM's or ignoring the other, there really ain't much you can do.

But I don't think it really matters. /blist takes care of harassing /tells, and does anyone really give any credit to ppl accusing others of gilbuying? Seriously, how could they possibly know whether you have or not.

Anyone with a modicum of intelligence will ignore such comments, anyone lacking that intelligence is still stuck in Valkurm.

Anyways, just some thoughts.

Good luck to both of you, I hope you can continue enjoying the game and put this mess behind you.
#110 Aug 14 2005 at 4:56 AM Rating: Good
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I started a little over a year ago on the PC version, joining my friends RyuHalfa and Sythiel (The gents who recently DOMINATED the previous time record on Promy Holla) who I've known for over 5 years. I'm a NOTORIOUS cheater at games, and I love ripping them open from stem to stern seeing what I can do with them. Some games, however, remain somewhat sacred. The best example I can give you guys would be FFXI. A few months into the game, I bought exactly 1 million from IGE, and since then I've greatly regretted it. This was a bit before the stigma attached to gilbuying, but nonetheless, my friends were FURIOUS. How could I have taken something so fun and whored it out like that? I suddenly could've had the best equipment, the best everything, just totally pimped myself out (Mind you, our highest levels were in the dunes then). An important moment came to me when I realized, well hell, if I can buy this much gil, I can just keep buying it...and really, what fun would that be? It would be just like all the Age of Empires and Starcraft and Diablo II before...all of them ended up being trashy slutty games with the makeup to go with it (Ebay D2 items ring a bell with anyone?) I decided to take all of the gil I had bought and invest it in woodworking, which I am now quite proficient in (I've had to make my own gil from all the way from about 30 to 82, which I am at now). Now, when my friends request something of me, for penance for buying that gil, I shoulder the price and build it for them. Those who are considering buying gil: Please don't trash up this game. Those who are accusing others of doing it: You're levying quite an accusation against someone, and since it is a game, I think we've all had plenty of teh dharma. Please stop and play the game :)
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/point Liuuhke

STFU gilbuyer.

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#112 Aug 15 2005 at 1:28 AM Rating: Decent
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#113 Aug 15 2005 at 2:37 AM Rating: Good
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Nope, I dont see myself being wrong. You complained others were "harassing you of being a gil buyer." Then, you later on said "I dont care about others opinons." Well then, why do you continue to respond?

Edit: Well, I can spell allright. (^.^)b

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#114 Aug 16 2005 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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{Thank you} Xyn for MPKing my party last night, really enjoyed it, honest.
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atleast your nice about it, some people get mad when they get mpkd =/
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#116 Aug 16 2005 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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atleast your nice about it, some people get mad when they get mpkd =/


lol, actually i was very annoyed about it, but he seems to enjoy conflict and arguing. Not rising to the bait probably makes him more angry than I was. Most 10 year kids do stuff like that to get a reaction, not giving him the one he wants will probably make him throw a tantrum.
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lol yeah
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#118 Aug 23 2005 at 2:34 PM Rating: Default
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Geez people calm down. FFXI is meant to be a game, and if people get mad over some little thing (Gil Sellers or what ever), just renember to have a open mind to any thing. Now this thing about Gil buying.. if you notice it was started be US, YEAH THATS RIGHT US AS IN AMERICANS, and if you want to totaly avoid this, try making friends with JP people, because if you notice, they really don't care about what people say about them. This in no way means that they are meant to be picked upon, i have like 4 JP friends and they are all very good to me (No its not that they don't understand me, all of them know English as like their second language), but like i said they are open minded about anything really, so if you wish to avoid the American infulenced hate, jelaousy, anger, make friends with JP people! (Common it won't hurt to try XD)

Well hope that opened up some people's minds-
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Geez people calm down. FFXI is meant to be a game, and if people get mad over some little thing (Gil Sellers or what ever), just renember to have a open mind to any thing. Now this thing about Gil buying.. if you notice it was started be US, YEAH THATS RIGHT US AS IN AMERICANS, and if you want to totaly avoid this, try making friends with JP people, because if you notice, they really don't care about what people say about them. This in no way means that they are meant to be picked upon, i have like 4 JP friends and they are all very good to me (No its not that they don't understand me, all of them know English as like their second language), but like i said they are open minded about anything really, so if you wish to avoid the American infulenced hate, jelaousy, anger, make friends with JP people! (Common it won't hurt to try XD)

Well hope that opened up some people's minds-


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#120 Sep 02 2005 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow... I havent checked this thread in a while... Got out of hand a little lol...


Im glad some people see how Xyn can be.... Im sure she has a nice side, but the nasty side was showing through when I met her.

Oh, and for the love of God, take down that picture.

And dont ever head-butt anyone, youre likely to kill them.
#121 Sep 02 2005 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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lol I like this:

"I came here with a harrassement issue in game.

Then told everyone how they harrased me.

Then stated what I thought my opinons about being publicly humilliating accused of doing something the mojority of the comunity condemns, plus its againts SE TOS, by harrasing me with it for weeks.

And finally, held on to some faint hope that others who post here would actually realate about harrasment while you are trying to have a good time with the money you spent, and actually have some advice other the the good ol /blist so I cant see them harrassing them lies about me in public game, while everyone I know demands answers to this accusation..."

Xyn, youre a hypocritical idiot. Sorry, you are.

I was in a party with you. You were being extremely bossy, downright mean. I talked to the other members of the party, in /tell, and they agreed. I told them I was going to leave, they said it was fine. Then I said, in party "Im going to go, this party is a little too stressful, see ya" or something along those lines.

For the ENTIRE walk back from the Crawlers Nest to Jeuno, you sent me tell after tell, explaining why I was a bad player for leaving, telling me why I suck, telling me Im leaving the party, telling me all kinds of things about myself. THATS CALLED HARRASMENT.

So I fkn harrased you back. Childish? Sure. But dont come @#%^in crying on these boards about being harrased. fkn hypocrite.

And I didnt say that sh*t to you for "weeks", I made direct comments to you, in /tell, when I would see you sitting in Jeuno, which was maybe once a week, if that. And the comment would be to the extent of "You buy gil!" and that was that.

I think I said it out-loud once, AFTER you had come to me as your other character, Kristiejon, and asked me for money, for some reason, probably planning on ripping me off, and I found out it was you.


Youre a fkn moron.
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I'll offer friendly suggestions if I think it'll help the party and/or speed things up... but never will I be bossy. I don't care if they were a job that we really wanted in the party like a Bard... if you're gonna be like that, your arse is history.
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Kirstejon was mentioned a number of times on the (now thankfully dead) /blist thread. Being extremely bossy was one of the points mentioned. Changing the character doesn't change the person, it seems.

Anyways, as for harassment, as I said before, /blist, USE IT.
#124 Sep 03 2005 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
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I actually got a kick out of her rants, so I didnt b-list... And Im saying this honestly, not sarcastic at all... It got to the point where I was wondering if she had mental issues. She was bad mouthing me without me even replying anymore... Basically talking to me with no actuall conversing going on.

And I wasnt a whm leaving the party, or anything, I was a smn, and I was not the main healer.

Then I come here, and see she is doing it in the forums as well, dragging me into this sh*t, because I had to defend myself.

Fun stuff.

#125 Sep 03 2005 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh, and as far as calling her a gil seller, she had a rank 3 char, at lvl 40 or so, with TWO sai's as weapons, Kotes, Emp pin, Leaping boots, the works. Yes, she has Kristiejon, but she is in no hnmls, and Im wondering how you get that kind of cash. I mean, TWO Sai's? Come on.

Anyway, I dont give a sh*t if people buy gil. Its your money, its your hobby. Im just explaining why I thought she did.
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Please, for the love of all that is holy, LET THIS THREAD STAY DEAD!

I would say that it has long outlived any sort of useful purpose, but frankly, I don't really see how it had one to begin with.
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DAMNIT.

<blatant hypocrisy>
I went on a posting tyrade just to bury this piece of goblin crap thread, quit bumping it up ya bunch of booger monkies! >__<
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Someone help me out and dig up some threads to bury this trash. Smiley: banghead
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Can't believe i read this without looking at the date.Smiley: disappointed
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@.@ Eeep this is old.
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I started reading and saw "2 years" from "launch" and was like wtf lol ; ;
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#133 Apr 12 2010 at 8:44 AM Rating: Default
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I remember this too! lol I read this thread years ago and had never even talked to Xyn before until I was in my late 50s on my Whm. I had heard her name mentioned before and people said "she's just a bitch..." I remembered I was LFG and she sent me a tell from her toon (Vixen) asking if I wanted to exp. Being the aggressive leveler that I was, I asked responded...

Me: What jobs are in the party?
Vixen: Does it matter?
Me: Yup
Vixen: *insert random mix of jobs here with no buff/debuff/refresh.
Me: No refresh?
Vixen: lol... we have a Ninja tank, you don't need refresh, just keep haste on him and us.
Me: lol no thanks, Haste itself is 40MP a pop. {Thanks for the offer, but i'll have to pass}

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Vixen: We want exp... and you're preventing that from happening
Me: {That's too bad}
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#134 Apr 13 2010 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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Mattelot, didn't you just get banned from BG for unnecessary necro posting?
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