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I don't do any dynamis anymore, but if people are reserving zones 3-4 months in advance I can see why people from Garuda would not want to use this calendar. There has to be some kind of limit to how far someone can reserve a zone and some limit to shells that only spam Xarc to make a calendar work.

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I am embarrassed that this is the best drama that Garuda can provide now.

Sometimes I miss Demo ;;

So if the situation was reversed and Lakshmi was sent to Garuda, and some Garuda website had Xarcabard booked for 3 months solid, would that mean you wouldn't do Xarc for 3 months? Honest answer....

Well.. I am the one in charge of Vex's schedule, which means I am usually the one that deals with Rustybucket and other ls when there are conflicts. I just want to say a few things about why and how we use Rustybucket.

We all know here that SE has done a ****** job in creating an endgame that has potential conflict occurrence like this, and SE had learned from this, too, and finally started to have instanced battlefields for certain "newer" stuffs in the game such as Nyzul Isle. There is no way(as far as we know/hear from the GMs) that SE will do anything about Dynamis, it will probably be too much effort for them to modify Dynamis, and for their servers to handle instanced Dynamis batttle field. This is why the players decided to step up and solve the conflicts rationally and have their own schedulers/calenders for their servers.

As for using RB, it's not an mandatory thing that everyone MUST use. It's more like a public tool for people that are willing to get involved and to show common courtesies to others in the community by making your schedules visible to everyone in the server. It lets you know what people are planning to do on certain days, so if you have conflict in plans, you will know who to talk to in advance.

Even before the server merge, and while everyone was using RB, we still had conflicts between Lakshmi schedules. But what we did was simple, we tried to find the scheduler/leaders of that ls, and to resolve those conflicts with them DAYS/WEEKS before the actual day of events. I sometimes had to /random with other ls leader weeks in advance for a zone that we both needed; I had switched zones with other ls because some ls needed the zone for flag/paper farming/etc. In general, that's what we have been doing for years in Lakshmi, and it had created a drama-free environment for all those times.

I know... ever since the server merge, Dynamis zones have been crowded with native Lakshmi LS, LS from Garuda, and also new LS that were just started(actually a lot O.o) in the past few weeks. However, if we can show common courtesies to others, we can still keep Dynamis a drama-free environment like we have had before. I am not telling people that you MUST use RB anymore, but please.... could you guys at least talk to the ls that schedules the zone days in advance... instead of going there on the day of the event, and expect us to have any kind of resolution. If you do that, there will be no time for any ls that schedules the zone to react to it... we simply can't deal with a last minute action like that... especially with the current population of Dynamis LS in Lakshmi.

It's really sad that SE did not make Dynamis an event schedule-able like BRenner, or short like Einherjar; a 3 hour event that has no scheduling is like a magnet for dramas. But we are mostly adults(this game is....14+..right?), and we should know how to rationally deal with situations like this. So please... if you need a zone on a certain date that already has a LS' name on it, talk to that ls in advance, and give both them and yourself some time to deal with it. What you gotta think is... we as people that are using RB are already trying to show common courtesies by showing our schedules to you and the public... so why can't you show some courtesies back to the community and let us know if you need a zone or not in advance...

Well, to tell you the truth, when I make schedules, I always thought for other LS, too. This is why I always tried to avoid scheduling Xarcarbard on the same days of the week... for any month. We only do 2-3 Xarcarbards a month, and I always spread them out, so we would not monopolize it on any day of the week. I believe other LS that use RB are doing the same things, too...

With respect to Lakshmi server and the dynamis shells that have been running on it, we on Garuda did not ask to be merged with you. We also did not want to go to war about contesting zones that were claimed on an arbitrary website forum that is not owned or managed by Square Enix in any way. I agree with the above statement that these zones were created with a certain amount of claim competition in mind.

Now, stripping away all the other useless details, we have a disagreement between two linkshells who wanted the same zone. One enters Dynamis at 7pm EST, and the other enters at 8pm EST I believe. Early bird takes the worm unfortunately. In the future, I would rely more on leader-to-leader communication by way of /tells to avoid conflicts. We won't always like the outcome, but cooperation is the path to overall success.

Edited, Apr 16th 2010 3:59pm by DhalsimPrime

Seriously now, get over it. You Lost.

So basically, if you were merged into a server, lost your name, had to repearl, put up with the logistical nightmare of tracking down all of your members with new names to repearl them with a new shell that also might have got its name stolen, you aren't allowed to do Dynamis before a bunch of groups that have scheduled their runs 2-3 months in advance.

Makes sense, Deathfather.

Strong-arming endgame shells really doesn't work. We are all on Lakshmi now. There isn't such a thing as "Garuda Refugees", people from Lakshmi are essentially as foreign to OUR ENTIRE SERVER as we are to you. We can easily say "I don't care about Lakshmi LS's, they aren't from Garuda." and 'jack' (e.g. gather faster and trade hourglass quicker) a zone. I find it much easier to work together with some of the new faces around town.

No one in their right mind is going to wait for 3 months to do Xarcabard, in 3 months Dynamis is going to be inferior for all we know!

Not really a novel idea. Since the beginning of civilised society people have organised around problems. Big events where only so many people can attend are usually pre-booked (Paid or unpaid). You don't just turn up on the door and fight it out.



So a system where zoned get jacked regularly, and create drama between shells is better than one where drama is avoided where possible? Many of the shell leaders, both Lakshmi and Garuda, are willing to work together to try and fit around each other. If you are flexible enough to reschedule zones at the drop of a hat (if you got jacked), then why can't you be flexible enough to schedule to fit in with other shells in advance?

What this comes down to is personality of the people in charge of scheduling, be that leader or another within the shell. There are those who try and work around each other courteously, realising that there will be times when they can't get their first choice of zone, and there are those who are rude and selfish who say "F*&k you, I want this zone, I'm taking it".

Oh, they demand. But SE still hasn't changed it.