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#152 Feb 19 2009 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
@#%^ valdan and @#%^ anyone ******** about anyone thats not galan cause hes like a valdan+1 and 10 times worse and he fails at life even more he is an oxygen thief and he should just been flushed down the toilet along with valdan too and its sad that SE doesnt it consider stealing its a ow dirty move on valdans part but this is a immature reply out of spite to both of them now you know not to include them in any even and you shoulda learned that from my random shouts about them both in wg when i run through, and for you hoes that /blacklisted me before cause i like to bs around in wg you have no sense of humor go cry to a GM about me too bottom line valdan and galan fail both incredibly and i feel sorry to anyone who has suffered from there actions but it angers me that valdan gets a hat epost and galan doesnt do poster fails rofl put that in your pipe and smoke it

Edited, Feb 19th 2009 11:34am by goblinpimp
#153 Feb 19 2009 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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goblinpimp wrote:
@#%^ valdan and @#%^ anyone ******** about anyone thats not galan cause hes like a valdan+1 and 10 times worse and he fails at life even more he is an oxygen thief and he should just been flushed down the toilet along with valdan too and its sad that SE doesnt it consider stealing its a ow dirty move on valdans part but this is a immature reply out of spite to both of them now you know not to include them in any even and you shoulda learned that from my random shouts about them both in wg when i run through, and for you hoes that /blacklisted me before cause i like to bs around in wg you have no sense of humor go cry to a GM about me too bottom line valdan and galan fail both incredibly and i feel sorry to anyone who has suffered from there actions but it angers me that valdan gets a hat epost and galan doesnt do poster fails rofl put that in your pipe and smoke it

Edited, Feb 19th 2009 11:34am by goblinpimp


If you feel that strongly about it, than make a post.

However when you do, please provide factual evidence (even better if you have screenshots and such to back it up as proof), and try to present yourself in an intelligent manner. This post you made here spouting who knows what is barely legible by any standard. There's no way anyone is going to give your claim 2 seconds of thought when they can't even read it.

As for the person whom you call out, well I have not seen claim of his thievery or such matters prior to this, but what I know of him as a person, I would agree that he's pretty unlikeable.
#154 Feb 19 2009 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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goblinpimp wrote:
@#%^ valdan and @#%^ anyone ******** about anyone thats not galan cause hes like a valdan+1 and 10 times worse and he fails at life even more he is an oxygen thief and he should just been flushed down the toilet along with valdan too and its sad that SE doesnt it consider stealing its a ow dirty move on valdans part but this is a immature reply out of spite to both of them now you know not to include them in any even and you shoulda learned that from my random shouts about them both in wg when i run through, and for you hoes that /blacklisted me before cause i like to bs around in wg you have no sense of humor go cry to a GM about me too bottom line valdan and galan fail both incredibly and i feel sorry to anyone who has suffered from there actions but it angers me that valdan gets a hat epost and galan doesnt do poster fails rofl put that in your pipe and smoke it

Edited, Feb 19th 2009 11:34am by goblinpimp


Oye. This hurt my eyes.
#155 Feb 19 2009 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
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Oye. This hurt my eyes.


I bet it did. I'm glad I didn't.
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#156 Feb 19 2009 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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Well Josm at least helped me understand why this ******* Valdan is still on our server - RL "friends". I quote friend, because I doubt someone like him is really capable of being a friend. He'd most likely stab you in the back to Josm if he didn't think there would be RL consequences. You have come off as defending his actions and acting like he is this great FFXI player who should have the right to kick people from his parties and deserves gear over other people.
#157REDACTED, Posted: Feb 19 2009 at 9:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lmao i posted not to provide circumstantial evidence but to fume and talk ****, if you want evidence go ask anyone else who knows them =P
#158 Feb 19 2009 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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goblinpimp wrote:
@#%^ valdan and @#%^ anyone ******** about anyone thats not galan cause hes like a valdan+1 and 10 times worse and he fails at life even more he is an oxygen thief and he should just been flushed down the toilet along with valdan too and its sad that SE doesnt it consider stealing its a ow dirty move on valdans part but this is a immature reply out of spite to both of them now you know not to include them in any even and you shoulda learned that from my random shouts about them both in wg when i run through, and for you hoes that /blacklisted me before cause i like to bs around in wg you have no sense of humor go cry to a GM about me too bottom line valdan and galan fail both incredibly and i feel sorry to anyone who has suffered from there actions but it angers me that valdan gets a hat epost and galan doesnt do poster fails rofl put that in your pipe and smoke it

Edited, Feb 19th 2009 11:34am by goblinpimp


Let's start with the basics... "." is a period. It goes at the end of sentence, a.k.a. a complete thought. We will continue the lesson once you have mastered the way of the period.
#159 Feb 19 2009 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Cute, Valdan found himself a boyfriend to defend him because he doesn't have the courage to do so by himself. I couldn't bring myself to read through all of the long drawn out posts defending him and yelling at others for also not reading, but from the general consensus it seems Josm doesn't care about Valdan stealing because it doesn't effect him.

Valdan probably gives him money from the things he steals/sells so why would he care?

Really wish I didn't quit playing during this semester :( seems like I'm missing some Valdan bashing.

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Granted I don't have any screenshots to prove myself, but who takes screenshots when someone doesn't do something wrong.


This is my opinion on the matter but I'm probably not completely alone... If you steal from people even one time, you lose all credibility. Innocent until proven guilty no longer applies, it's guilty until proven innocent. Once a thief always a thief.

*seems I'm late to the party by a day :( I don't think to check ffxi forums unless I'm playing the game ;;
#160 Feb 19 2009 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Don't worry everyone worth anything still knows Valdan is a PoS and will stay away with him. I can't only speak for Josm personally, but I will not associate with him either. If he is going to, in any form, defend this guy I don't want to have anything to do with him either.
#161 Feb 19 2009 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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@#%^ valdan and @#%^ anyone ******** about anyone thats not galan cause hes like a valdan+1 and 10 times worse and he fails at life even more he is an oxygen thief and he should just been flushed down the toilet along with valdan too and its sad that SE doesnt it consider stealing its a ow dirty move on valdans part but this is a immature reply out of spite to both of them now you know not to include them in any even and you shoulda learned that from my random shouts about them both in wg when i run through, and for you hoes that /blacklisted me before cause i like to bs around in wg you have no sense of humor go cry to a GM about me too bottom line valdan and galan fail both incredibly and i feel sorry to anyone who has suffered from there actions but it angers me that valdan gets a hat epost and galan doesnt do poster fails rofl put that in your pipe and smoke it


This is truly a work of art, bravo!
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#162 Feb 19 2009 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, that is a prime example of a genuine wall-o-text, there, folks. That atrocity should be shot, burned, shot again, and drowned in walrus ****.
#163 Feb 19 2009 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Does walrus **** have sorta special effect that I don't know about? If it does plesse let me know so I can use it in the future.
#164 Feb 19 2009 at 7:41 PM Rating: Good
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Does walrus **** have sorta special effect that I don't know about? If it does plesse let me know so I can use it in the future.

Perhaps it's just easier to get in volume? As big as Walruses are, they must pee quite a lot.
#165 Feb 19 2009 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
It's a fairly common drop from Apkallu Urinebearers, which can be found from G-7 to J-12 on the eastern coast of Madagascar. {fact}
#166 Feb 23 2009 at 6:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Hey guys. Ive been reading this post about Valdan, and all I gotta say is that, I think Valdan is the biggest scum on the server; However most of us are wrong in a way. Yes its messed up that Valdan screws people left and right and people and some players seem to exp with him and not care, and I do agree with Josm on some things he said about some of the nonsense going on. I'm sure Josm hasn't stole anything in his life, But Josm you have to look at it this way. When a one kid robs a store and he leaves with a bunch of his friends and a cop spots them. Who is the cop going to stop? just that one kid? or the whole gang? I guess what I'm saying is when you associate with someone that you know steals from others. People is also going to look at you as a thief only because you associate with that person, and you could be the most innocent person. It's this whole saying "Show me your company and I'll tell you who you are." I understand hes your friend and I'm sure some of us do, But I don't think it was wise for you to defend him on Allah, because you're only dragging your name in the mud. Also if he is your friend? If I was you I would tell him to stop stealing from others on the game and learn how to earn his gear the honest way. I also want to point about the players disliking Valdan. Now I really don't like what he does and Ive witness some of the theft he done to mine friends, and I'm sorry about PCC he stole, but stooping down to his level isnt going to solve anything. Even if you get your cheap laughs out of it but guess what? he still have the PCC he stole and a couple haguns and theres nothing we can do about it to get it back, its radical vs radical, Because now it only makes you 1. immature and 2. Just like Valdan.
I'm sure theres several ways to deal with such a person like him by shunning him and not participating in any events that he is involved in, and Valdan you're truely a sorry *** and a bacteria for doing this, and I hope in the long run you get whats coming to you. I'll let karma deal with you "What goes around comes around" peace Lakshmi
#167 Feb 23 2009 at 6:40 AM Rating: Excellent
So I'm in my first merit party in months. We're doing pretty good at colibri camp when I get the message "Valdan examines you". And then, twice more. I then see Josm run by. I send Josm a tell asking if they would not camp on top of us, but no reply.

I then decide to see what people would be partying with Valdan. I see someone who is applying to our Dynamis shell. Everyone in my party at the time was in the same Dynamis shell and we know this guy. He said he didn't know Valdan's history, but says him and Josm were both real jackasses in party chat. Basically, saying ***** them, we're taking this camp now'. I told him to please read about Valdan before meriting with him and camping on top of us. Shortly after he "d/c'd".

As they replace him and start camping on us, I told Josm that I wasn't surprised he wasn't as nice as he tried to act like on alla. If you hang out with jackasses you ultimately become a jackass yourself. He told me he could tell I was 'retarded' from alla and how I don't understand anything. Valdan was the party leader and if he says they should take over the camp, then the party just obeys and my only problem should be with Valdan - not the other 5 people.

Luckily, they weren't as good as us and eventually got frustrated and left. But, I finally had my first personal encounter with the douche and his girlfriend Josm. Josm, I don't know what this jackass does to you in RL to get you as his puppet, but you're pathetic and not much better than him.
#168 Feb 23 2009 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hmm, think we can get a list of all of his 'friends'?

If they all get pissed off maybe they will server transfer together :D
#169 Feb 23 2009 at 10:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm disappointed in Josm. I was in a limbus shell he started a while back and he seemed like a decent soul. Before this thread I would never have guessed what even "decent" people are willing to do when presented with the opportunity to blame their actions on others.

VawnLakshmi the Great wrote:
He told me he could tell I was 'retarded' from alla and how I don't understand anything. Valdan was the party leader and if he says they should take over the camp, then the party just obeys and my only problem should be with Valdan - not the other 5 people.


I don't care that he camped on top the party here. Lots of parties do that. But members of the party that steal a camp DO have a say in it. No party leader can MAKE you do anything. Using that argument just means that you are either a) unwilling to assume any responsiblity for your own actions or b) a complete moron.

Valdan is YOUR buddy. But please stop following his lead when he wants to be a douchebag. I don't put his actions on you, but it would be nice if you didn't just blindly follow his lead.

#170 Feb 23 2009 at 10:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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I guess I saved my red arrows for a reason. What a lieing jerk! At least I get some satisfaction out of red arrowing, even though it doesn't do much to help the situation. I pretend it is a torture button.
#171 Feb 23 2009 at 4:18 PM Rating: Default
I knew I should have taken a screenshot of your lovely "one line-er".

I never got this:
Moron wrote:
I send Josm a tell asking if they would not camp on top of us, but no reply.


Don't make yourself look like you're a nice guy all of the sudden and turn condescending.

The 2 /tell conversation went like this.

Vawn>> I should have known you were an *** when you defended Valdan.
>>Vawn I should have known you were a moron when you refused to read a logical argument.

That was it. A word might have been misplaced here and there, but that was the exact language I got from it. It was an eye for an eye, the guy insulted me, and I threw it right back. I said nothing to start this from him, I just wanted to merit.

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Luckily, they weren't as good as us and eventually got frustrated and left.
Yes, because your merit party at birds with a turtle paladin was obviously going to do a better job there.

Moron wrote:
He said he didn't know Valdan's history, but says him and Josm were both real jackasses in party chat.
This seems odd since I didn't say anything the entire party and was watching House MD while we were setting up. Did I all of the sudden get my name fused with Val's? Jaldan? Vosm? Doesn't sound very catchy, but then again my character name came from a typo I made almost 10 years ago.

Anyway, this is the last post I'm making and I won't bother checking here anymore. Too many ignorant people (save 3-4) that don't bother using their ability to READ. And even more, there's a guy making up sh*t to prove some sort of point that I knew isn't true. If he wants to say anything after I stop reading, by all means, go ahead. I know what's true and from now on, that's all I need.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 6:21pm by Josm

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 6:34pm by Josm
#172 Feb 23 2009 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
Josm you are full of it. You got my tell asking if you wouldn't camp right on top of us. You weren't fighting at the time, so I know you didn't just "not see it". I guess it will have to be my word against the word of Valdan's biggest (only) fanboy. I can live with that.
#173 Feb 23 2009 at 8:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Josm wrote:
I knew I should have taken a screenshot of your lovely "one line-er".

I never got this:
Moron wrote:
I send Josm a tell asking if they would not camp on top of us, but no reply.


Don't make yourself look like you're a nice guy all of the sudden and turn condescending.

The 2 /tell conversation went like this.

Vawn>> I should have known you were an *** when you defended Valdan.
>>Vawn I should have known you were a moron when you refused to read a logical argument.

That was it. A word might have been misplaced here and there, but that was the exact language I got from it. It was an eye for an eye, the guy insulted me, and I threw it right back. I said nothing to start this from him, I just wanted to merit.

Moron wrote:
Luckily, they weren't as good as us and eventually got frustrated and left.
Yes, because your merit party at birds with a turtle paladin was obviously going to do a better job there.

Moron wrote:
He said he didn't know Valdan's history, but says him and Josm were both real jackasses in party chat.
This seems odd since I didn't say anything the entire party and was watching House MD while we were setting up. Did I all of the sudden get my name fused with Val's? Jaldan? Vosm? Doesn't sound very catchy, but then again my character name came from a typo I made almost 10 years ago.

Anyway, this is the last post I'm making and I won't bother checking here anymore. Too many ignorant people (save 3-4) that don't bother using their ability to READ. And even more, there's a guy making up sh*t to prove some sort of point that I knew isn't true. If he wants to say anything after I stop reading, by all means, go ahead. I know what's true and from now on, that's all I need.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 6:21pm by Josm

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 6:34pm by Josm

Although posting this rather pointless, I thought I'd say this anyways just in case Josm comes back...

Your arguments may be logical, but they are far from moral.

Josm, you can argue all you want about how you're in the right over your friendship with Valdan, but if we all agree that Valdan is a thief and needs to be stopped, then your inaction to stop him puts you in the wrong. Standards of a moral and just society dictate this.
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#174 Feb 24 2009 at 4:49 AM Rating: Excellent
I think Josm is really confused about this thread. Josm, you need to argue with Valdan instead of arguing on Alla. He's suppose to be your friend, yet I don't see him defending you on this forum; some friend huh??. What you need to do is tell him: "Hey look I'm your bud and all, but you need to stop doing what you doing and play fair with others, and earn gear the honest way". I do agree with Susperia, you can argue about your case all you want, it doesn't change the fact that Valdan is a thief, and if you continue to defend this guy? everyone is going to look at you the same way, a thief only because you have no intention of stopping him.
#175 Feb 24 2009 at 5:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Josm if you read this (you mentioned SS'ing our conversation so I assume you might come back), this is Woodshed.

I talked to Josm last night about Valdan. He seemed like a semi-decent guy (but I don't know if he was putting up a front in case he got screen shotted). However, he does seem to defend Valdan. He admits what he does is wrong, but he doesn't believe himself to be doing any wrong by assisting Valdan in doing these things. I tried to tell him that if Valdan was really his friend he was putting Josm in an unfair position by giving him the choice: either end his friendship with Valdan or continue it and ruin his own reputation by being the guy who is always assisting the biggest loser on our server.

He said something interesting. He said Valdan is quitting FFXI soon, so none of this will be an issue. I am sure I can speak for everyone when I say I hope this is true. Regardless Josm, RL friend or not, you need to stop assisting this guy. He's completely ruined his own reputation, don't let him take yours too before he quits.

If you really want our respect tell Valdan that you enjoy his friendship, but you have put a lot of work into your FFXI character and it isn't fair to have your rep ruined. Stick up for yourself and say until he agrees to stop "playing" the game this way and returns any non-Ex gear he wrongfully stole (including the PCC to Cadant) you simply will not associate with him in-game. He's using you whether you realize it or not.
#176 Feb 24 2009 at 7:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you really want our respect tell Valdan that you enjoy his friendship, but you have put a lot of work into your FFXI character and it isn't fair to have your rep ruined. Stick up for yourself and say until he agrees to stop "playing" the game this way and returns any non-Ex gear he wrongfully stole (including the PCC to Cadant) you simply will not associate with him in-game. He's using you whether you realize it or not.


Perhaps Josm is just waiting for him to quit so Valdan gives his pet all his stole gear and now Josm doesnt have to work hard at anything lol
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