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#1 Oct 07 2004 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, this may be my first post but I need to get this off my chest. What is the deal with people demanding to be PL'd?

*climbs on soapbox

I had just left Windurst and was on my way to Giddeus when I get a tell from another player-
Other - "HEY!"
Me - "Whatcha need?".
Other - "PL ME! I really need it! I'm poor and weak."
So I check his stats and he's a lvl 2 WAR. Only lvl 2 and he wants to be PL'd?!?! Far be it from me to judge when someone should ask to be PL'd but come on... it's not that hard to lvl up when you're at such an early stage.
Me - "Sorry. Going to Giddeus. Don't think it would be wise for you to go with me."
Other - "That's ok, you can stay here and PL me here."
Me - "Can't, need to lvl my character up too"
Other - "Come on, I need to get lvl'd up! I want you to PL me!"
Me - "Sorry, I can't."
I start heading toward Giddeus again. He starts yelling and callimg me quite a few things I won't repeat here. I Blist'd him and went on my way.

The reason this ticks me off is because no one PL'd me nor did I want anyone to. I made it to lvl 15 (and I know it's not impressive compared to most) but I did it by myself without anyone helping and the first and second time I was in a party ended miserably so I've been slightly weary of parties. Now, this isn't the first time people have demanded that I PL them nor will it probably be the last but where is the fun in playing the game if you have someone do everything for you?

*climbs off of soapbox

Ok, that's it...just thought I'd share.
#2 Oct 07 2004 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
I just Blist them and they magically go away! Another tip is to tell them that they need to pay an exorbitant fee (e.g. 10,000 gil per level or hour with the reason being you can farm that much in the same amount of time). You can also just go anon which might suit you as it seems you like to solo a lot.

As far parties. You should try it again. Level 15RDM with no parties? Must have taken a while. (?) You'll level faster in a party and eventually its about the only way to level for most classes (e.g. easy preys start beating you solo!). You could try partying with just one or two more people and fighting Even Matches or Tough MOBs. Sometimes that is more fun IMO.
#3 Oct 07 2004 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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The reason this ticks me off is because no one PL'd me nor did I want anyone to. I made it to lvl 15 (and I know it's not impressive compared to most) but I did it by myself without anyone helping and the first and second time I was in a party ended miserably so I've been slightly weary of parties. Now, this isn't the first time people have demanded that I PL them nor will it probably be the last but where is the fun in playing the game if you have someone do everything for you?


"i never had a pony when i was a child so no one will get one either"
"i had to walk to school 10 miles every day, so everyone else should too."
"it took me 1 year to get to level 75 so no one needs to get to level 75 sooner"

here are some legit reasons for power levelling (key word being "legit"):

1) someone in your LS needs to get to a certain level to catch up with the rest
2) it's someone's 2nd, 3rd, nth character and is trying to get through the early levels as quickly as possible
3) someone got a job that, at low level, makes it impossible to find a PT (namely thief and monk), so he needs a little help

actually there are other legit reasons, but this is all i can think of.
i wouldn't deny someone a PL if i was not busy. i probably wouldn't do it for free either. it just depends.
although i do agree with you that the level 2 war was being an a$$ (i wouldn't power level him with his attitude), i don't deny power levelling because it took me X amount of weeks to get to a level.
#4 Oct 07 2004 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree that there are "legit" reasons to PL someone and I wasn't putting the concept of power leveling down. I am frustrated by the amount of people starting to demand that they be PL'd, that's all.
#5 Oct 07 2004 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Another tip is to tell them that they need to pay an exorbitant fee (e.g. 10,000 gil per level or hour with the reason being you can farm that much in the same amount of time).


That reminds me.
I was on my way to Bastok from Dem on chocobo.

<person> You busy?
<me> Whatcha need? (I don't just say yes, 9/10 I will raise someone even if I'm busy and on chocobo)
<person> PL me.
(Did /sea all person... 13war/'some sub,' lvl may be a bit off)
<me> I don't powerlvl. (I will PL people on Friend list and LS and I'm only lvl 38, can't really PL to a high lvl anyways)
<person> I'm a warrior.
<me> and if I did, I would charge 100k per hour (no joke, I told him 100k an hour)
<person> 100k is ghay (his typo not mine)
<person> GAY

Then it went on from there until I finally said I'm busy. Then he replies, "That's why I asked if you were busy duh."
I guess I just don't understand asking complete strangers to PL you. Though, I've been PL'd from LS members (even at lvl 1), but its slow lvling all your jobs at low lvls (I only have 4 jobs left at lvl 1 thank god).

I've even was PL'd two days ago from someone I didn't know. Just out of nowhere he tells me I get a free PL and he starts PL'ing me. I ask why and his response "Because you said thank you when I cast heal and protect on you." So it pays to be polite.
#6 Oct 07 2004 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree that there are "legit" reasons to PL someone and I wasn't putting the concept of power leveling down. I am frustrated by the amount of people starting to demand that they be PL'd, that's all.


you're quite correct. there are those jerks who feel that being in their very presence is payment enough for you to PL them. with those guys i start to PL them and let them die a few times ehehehehe
#7 Oct 07 2004 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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hehe.... I like that.
#8 Oct 07 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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Ooooh yes, that sounds familiar, I never turn off my /anon, and of course when i run through Valk to work on the Selbena Clay quest of course in Selbena i usually get one of those "Can you PL my pt? Please?" And i politely turn them down. When they start screaming at me, i do the same thing as mentioned, I charge for a rediculos amount of money, and advise the fact it took me two months to get to lvl 20 my first time ><, and I feel the first time u lvl up gives you a good grip on everything when u lvl. Well, thats my two gil ^^
#9 Oct 07 2004 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't find being PL'd particularly fun (I've never paid for it, only had it when someone has offered to help me through a few early levels on a new job).

It's quite bad if someone is power-lvl'd too high, they end up not knowing how to do their job properly.

Partying is way more fun anyway...
#10 Oct 08 2004 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with the above posts. I tend to go /anon a lot in the starting three cities. I am able to go /anon since my main jobs, blm and whm, are in static pt's, and I do not need to go around with my flag up. The times where my information was shown I would get /tells as a blm/whm for PL'ing "using my sub-job". ><

I've PL friends and LS Mates to get their respected levels for our weekly static pt's, other pt's, if it's their second, third, or even fourth character, or if I just want to spend time with them. I don't mind doing that, since most times they have played the job with another character and pretty much know what they are doing.

I do not like to PL random people (even for gil) since (1) if they die, it's ALL my fault, and (2) they will not know how to do their job properly. I firmly believe that if you "baby" them too much they will not know how to do their job properly and will not know how to function in parties correctly later down the road.

:)

Edited, Fri Oct 8 10:08:28 2004 by Xaiyara
#11 Oct 08 2004 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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Another fun thing to do is let them get really low on health, then tell them to call for help because you're out of MP. When they do, cast Holy on the mob, and then rest as if nothing ever happened. After a few times, they should get the hint.
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