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#1 Jul 10 2007 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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In case any Kujata residents are searching for a gay friendly LS, I've just started one called XSapphosHonorGuardX. Gotta admit that I'm the only one in it at the moment, but if anyone is interested in joining, just send a /tell to Shukou and I'll set you up. It is a gay friendly LS, but all open-minded players are welcome. And no drama. Drama = no fun.
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#2 Jul 11 2007 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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edit: posted in wrong thread

Edited, Jul 11th 2007 5:15pm by AtamaKujata

Edited, Jul 11th 2007 8:01pm by AtamaKujata
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#3FFXISoldur, Posted: Jul 11 2007 at 5:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Finally a freaking chance to do what I've always wanted to do, I can fake relationships and flirt for items and gil like the girls and guyrls do...
#4 Jul 11 2007 at 9:14 PM Rating: Good
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Isn't there already a shell like this called TheIlluminaughty ? I think I saw that in one of their member's bazaar comments in Whitegate: something about it being a gay,lesbian and transexual LS. Good luck to you though.
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#5 Aug 03 2007 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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The Illuminaughty LS is very drama/b.s. filled in general. There's also some pretty creepy people in it.
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#6 Aug 20 2007 at 8:27 PM Rating: Good
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The Illuminaughty LS is very drama/b.s. filled in general. There's also some pretty creepy people in it.


WELL, if by "creepy" you mean "hilarious," then yes, we're totally creepy. No topic is too taboo for our linkshell. : )

Yes, we do have our drama (which is no different than any other large linkshell) but for the most part we're out to have fun. We have had our ups and downs but we've been around for... what? Four years now? Drama aside, we're an otherwise tight-knit linkshell and we're always welcoming to new friendly players. Especially if they're hot. But that's just me.

If you're looking for a fun GLBT/Queer/Gay-friendly/Whatever social linkshell, TheIllumiNaughty will have what you're looking for.
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#7 Aug 22 2007 at 4:05 AM Rating: Good
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#8 Aug 22 2007 at 7:43 AM Rating: Decent
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In case any Kujata residents are searching for a gay friendly LS, I've just started one called XSapphosHonorGuardX. Gotta admit that I'm the only one in it at the moment, but if anyone is interested in joining, just send a /tell to Shukou and I'll set you up. It is a gay friendly LS, but all open-minded players are welcome. And no drama. Drama = no fun.


Good luck with your new ls.

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#9 Aug 22 2007 at 9:34 AM Rating: Good
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Hiya, This is Xanthan, Leader of TheIllumiNaughty. For those of you wondering about pearls, you can send me a /tell anytime for one. We would be happy to have you. We are currently mostly social, but we do have LS outings, and we do help with quests and missions or anything else you need help with as needed. We have no entry requirements other than, No Drama. Thats my only rule. Everyone in my LS is very open minded, and very accepting. We created this Linkshell to be totally open and accepting to anyones beliefs, likes, and dislikes. The only "Drama" we've ever had are people coming in and causing problems. People are going to disagree, and they are going to fight, but if it happens we say keep it out of the Linkshell. And for a long time we have enjoyed peace and tranquility among our ranks lol. We always welcome new members tho, and do our best to make them feel at home! So If this sounds like a new home for you on Kujata, stop by and try us out!

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#10 Aug 23 2007 at 8:54 AM Rating: Default
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OK what is with all the gay threads popping up all of a sudden.

Really does you liking people of the same sex like that make you different or special or anything. NO it does not

A persons sexual preference has nothing to do with their abilities. Everyone (yes everyone not just homosexuals) is running around saying they want equal rights then they go off and try and segregate themselves. I can understand wanting to be with people that "get you". But why do you have to make special clubs if you want to be accepted does that not defeat the purpose of everyone being equal what if I wanted to join your club because you do alot of the same things I like but I am different then yous?

And the other thing that is pissing me off is the last few nights sitting in white gate people shouting that they are gay to A) either get attention or what ever or B) start a fight about gays which is just f'ing dumb.

Who cares what you do I for one dont and I am getting sick of seeing it lately, you do not see me running around announcing my sexual preferences and sh*t trying to start a LS where strait people can come hang out and feel safe with out having to worry about being ridiculed for who they are.
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#11 Aug 23 2007 at 9:12 AM Rating: Good
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Really does you liking people of the same sex like that make you different or special or anything. NO it does not


Thats a nice happy little carebear pixies and unicorn farts notion you have there, but the fact of the matter is that there are plenty of people in this world who view things such as race, religion and sexual preference as "right" and "wrong." I don't know if you've ever been in some of the LS's I've seen, but "F*g" "Queer" and "gay" are tossed around as rather cavalier insults amongst most of the playerbase.

Unfortunately, we have a lot of kids who play this game that think tossing out big-kid words they saw on Soprano re-runs makes them tough, grown-up, or mature. You see this with racial slurs being tossed around during damn near every Besieged. Same thing goes for Homosexuality, and sometimes even religion.

I don't blame people for banding together to avoid crap like that. I have a feeling you've never been the subject of bigotry to the extent that some of the people in that LS have. If you have been and I am wrong, then I apologize for my assumptions.

If you have not, then you have no business telling them how to react to treatment you've never endured.
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#12 Aug 23 2007 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
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I don't blame people for banding together to avoid crap like that.


I agree with you on this, people should ban together to fight ignorant people that feel just because some one is different then them they are wrong.

In this game making an LS that is Open to all people and will not stand for demeaning slurs toward any people is better IMO then a "Gay" friendly LS. For two reasons 1) You are already segregating yourselves and drawing undo attention to your LS. 2) You may discourage people from joining.

This reminds be back to right after the trade towers where attacked and everyone was being intolerant of Arabs or anyone from the Indian/Pakistan region (well a lot of people still are). I was in the Army at the time (SGT) and we got a flood of new people in I dont know how many of them would use racial slurs about any one we came across that included other Army soldiers. Then I would have to punish and educate the person that made the slur.

Hating one person for something that they did to you, your family, your country is fine. But hating that persons entire race or culture for that is just wrong, and yes if you are a intolerant @$$ hole then I will be intolerant of you, at least I have a valid reason behind mine.

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I have a feeling you've never been the subject of bigotry to the extent that some of the people in that LS have.

Maybe not the extent that some people have but I am an American that has lived outside the country's boarders for over 70% of my life as a child and adult. I have been ridiculed on personal and professional level, spat on for just being in a place that you are not wanted (this was in the US while I was am Army Recruiter, had stuff hurled at my convoys, even segregated as a child (not by the children but by their parents).
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#13 Aug 23 2007 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Really does you liking people of the same sex like that make you different or special or anything. NO it does not


Thats a nice happy little carebear pixies and unicorn farts notion you have there, but the fact of the matter is that there are plenty of people in this world who view things such as race, religion and sexual preference as "right" and "wrong." I don't know if you've ever been in some of the LS's I've seen, but "F*g" "Queer" and "gay" are tossed around as rather cavalier insults amongst most of the playerbase.

Unfortunately, we have a lot of kids who play this game that think tossing out big-kid words they saw on Soprano re-runs makes them tough, grown-up, or mature. You see this with racial slurs being tossed around during damn near every Besieged. Same thing goes for Homosexuality, and sometimes even religion.

I don't blame people for banding together to avoid crap like that. I have a feeling you've never been the subject of bigotry to the extent that some of the people in that LS have. If you have been and I am wrong, then I apologize for my assumptions.

If you have not, then you have no business telling them how to react to treatment you've never endured.


I can't agree more with this post. Everyone wants equal treatment from society, it is a goal and a dream for us all. But sadly the fact is people at the current time still hold judgment on others due to sexual preference, religion, choices in life etc. Even on the game there is maybe more attacks because there is little to nothing that can be done to them. What is a ban going to do to someone irl? It will do nothing but annoy them.

I think the gay friendly linkshells of kujata are great. I knew alot of players from ifrit who were gay and got sh*t in your normal ls directly or just use of slang it was hard for them. I think that if there is a ls which moves towards a more friendly environment for any group it is a welcome ls in the community, somewhere you feel "safe" is a great place.

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In this game making an LS that is Open to all people and will not stand for demeaning slurs toward any people is better IMO then a "Gay" friendly LS. For two reasons 1) You are already segregating yourselves and drawing undo attention to your LS. 2) You may discourage people from joining.


Aye I got a feeling the linkshell was open to everyone, but was "gay friendly" meaning there is a good population of gays and wont tolerate gay bashing.



Edited, Aug 23rd 2007 1:48:28pm by SevIfrit
#14 Aug 24 2007 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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you do not see me running around announcing my sexual preferences and sh*t trying to start a LS where strait people can come hang out and feel safe with out having to worry about being ridiculed for who they are.


Is that sarcasm? Some sort of joke I'm not understanding? Are you implying straight people are ridiculed so often they must search for a linkshell that is accepting of them? I don't believe your analogy holds water. The gay population does not exceed the straight population, and we do not go around bashing 'breeders' for the way God created them.

There are still a lot of close-minded straight people out there that DO go around bashing gay people, for the way they were born. Why would we not seek out a linkshell where we can be ourselves without fear of people throwing out insults to us? The reason the linkshell exists seems pretty clear to me.

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In this game making an LS that is Open to all people and will not stand for demeaning slurs toward any people is better IMO then a "Gay" friendly LS. For two reasons 1) You are already segregating yourselves and drawing undo attention to your LS. 2) You may discourage people from joining.



The linkshell IS open to everyone. There is no bashing of any way, shape or form in the linkshell. That includes race, religion, and yes, even sexuality.

If we discourage people from joining simply by saying it's gay friendly, then that's fine! If the word 'gay' scares them, they can find a linkshell they would much rather call home, I'm sure.

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Thats a nice happy little carebear pixies and unicorn farts notion you have there, but the fact of the matter is that there are plenty of people in this world who view things such as race, religion and sexual preference as "right" and "wrong." I don't know if you've ever been in some of the LS's I've seen, but "F*g" "Queer" and "gay" are tossed around as rather cavalier insults amongst most of the playerbase.

Unfortunately, we have a lot of kids who play this game that think tossing out big-kid words they saw on Soprano re-runs makes them tough, grown-up, or mature. You see this with racial slurs being tossed around during damn near every Besieged. Same thing goes for Homosexuality, and sometimes even religion.

I don't blame people for banding together to avoid crap like that. I have a feeling you've never been the subject of bigotry to the extent that some of the people in that LS have. If you have been and I am wrong, then I apologize for my assumptions.

If you have not, then you have no business telling them how to react to treatment you've never endured.


Quoted because it's pure win.


Anyway. If Xanthan is not online, and you would like a pearl. Send me a tell in-game.


EDIT: I love getting rated down for explaining what the linkshell stands for and why it exists. Some people out there must have a problem with me being gay, and rated me down for it. They are probably the same people asking why we want to be in a 'gay-friendly' LS...

Edited, Aug 27th 2007 5:10pm by MalikiKujata
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#15 Aug 24 2007 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I dont think he ment that announcing your gay is wrong or that your link shell is open I think the meant constantly /sh "Im gay Im gay hate me hate me!!!" is wrong.


Iv seen it as well. Yes please shout for your ls but i mean there are a lot of us out there who don't give a spit what your sexuality is so maybe the shout shouldn't be centered around being "gay friendly" and just "friendly to all"

and Im jewish and play internet games... every one hates me.
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#16 Aug 24 2007 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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and Im jewish and play internet games... every one hates me.


lolket no one hates you b/c your jewish <.<; its cuz your a DRG

Edited, Aug 24th 2007 2:07:31pm by ggrapple
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#17xAlyisax, Posted: Aug 24 2007 at 10:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This thread is totally gay....lol
#18 Aug 24 2007 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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homophobia, racism, no thanks, all this guy wants to do is avoid being called harsh names and avoid hearing things that put his lifestyle down. no one wants to hear "omg that NM is so <insert your ethnicity/religion here>." hey if you think about it, that doesnt make any sense. that mission was so american, that quest was so english. see those dont make any sense either. so calling something gay doesnt make any sense. but some ppl arent smart enough to figure that out.
#19 Aug 24 2007 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Master ketrel wrote:
Iv seen it as well. Yes please shout for your ls but i mean there are a lot of us out there who don't give a spit what your sexuality is so maybe the shout shouldn't be centered around being "gay friendly" and just "friendly to all"

and Im jewish and play internet games... every one hates me.

It's not really the same thing though. If the shell actively calls itself "gay friendly", that implies to me that they already have gay members. And since the linkshell's main focus seems to be as a haven for the gay/lesbian/bi/tranny players, I see no reason to label themselves otherwise. They're friendly to everyone anyway, but not everyone is subjected to discrimination like what homosexuals on the game experience, so the distinction is important to make their target members feel welcome.

I like ya well enough Ket, so not everyone hates you =P. Considering I'm a Muslim, that seems to be a ringing endorsement considering Jews and Muslims tend to hate each other in the world today.

I wouldn't have brought up the Illuminaughty in the first place if I thought this thread was going to become an attack on them; my apologies to the Illuminaughty linkshell.

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Aye I got a feeling the linkshell was open to everyone, but was "gay friendly" meaning there is a good population of gays and wont tolerate gay bashing.
Very good point, so I think it bears repeating.

Edited, Aug 24th 2007 10:15:14pm by WraithOfGod
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#20 Aug 25 2007 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not shouting I'M HERE IM QUEER GET USED TO IT by any means lol. I find that annoying myself. This Linkshell was started by me and a few friends who were tired of people ridiculing us and talking smack about gays. I don't go around shouting "queer looking for party" lol. But If someone is making gay or racial or religous slurs in my parties, I will say something and have been known to leave them because of it. Not to say I'll leave the first time someone says "thats gay" cause face it, I'd never get to level lol. And as far as segretating myself and friends, thats not the case. 60% of our members are straight, and married couples. Who aren't bigots and haters.
We created this LS to be open and accepting to all lifestyles, but since I as the leader, am myself a homosexual american (grin) I wanted my LS to be full of people that got along, and didn't care about peoples differences. I don't want to have me and all my friends subject to hate. So I created one that didn't tolerate it. When you join my LS, you know whats up. You know who we are, and wether or not its for you. Thats in my opinion, is way better than allowing people in who don't respect peoples rights, and shout OMG this linkshell is full of queers! And the idea behind it is still very simple. If its not for you, don't join. But if you do, we are open and accepting.
I personally don't want to be in a linkshell full of racists and haters. In mine you know its ok to be who you are and no one is going to freak out. And people like myself can be secure in the idea that they can be who they are and not get ridiculed for it.
And to those of you who are responding to this thread in a positive light, thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Xanthan
#21 Aug 25 2007 at 3:28 PM Rating: Default
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I read a few posts of this ^^ and decided not to waste my time reading the rest. I'll let who wants to be a-holes be a-holes :O and not waste my time reading what they have to say.1/2 because no one cares about them 1/2 because its a waste of my time^^.
<3 Take care!~

Edited, Aug 25th 2007 7:28:48pm by Kayori
#22 Aug 28 2007 at 4:31 PM Rating: Default
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no one wants to hear "omg that NM is so <insert your ethnicity/religion here>."

I would die laughing if someone said that a NM was so white XD
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#23 Aug 30 2007 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Well one thing good about advertising, since this post was created, we have accepted 8 new people from Kujata, as well as people who have switched servers. lol So I thank you all for your thoughts.

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#25 Nov 25 2007 at 1:56 PM Rating: Default
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Also look to CityOfTheAncients for another linkshell that is gay-friendly. Leader: Willofsteel Send a /tell in game if interested. We are by word of mouth the largest social linkshell on Kujata. Mostly social shell but we do many endgame activities as well. Linkshell is never empty, there is always someone ready and willing to help you. ^^

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