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#1 Jun 22 2007 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Heh, Garuda's most infamously bad LS just moved to your server. May God have mercy on your souls.
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#3 Jun 23 2007 at 4:08 AM Rating: Good
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OK I'll bite, what LS and player names?
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#4 Jun 23 2007 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
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So if an LS sucks, how does this affect us at all?
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#5 Jun 23 2007 at 6:47 AM Rating: Default
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We got plenty of botting and rather dishonourable conduct on this server, as if honour has any meaning online. Another LS like that is just another drop in the bucket. Although a new LS would care even less about the people on whatever server they just moved to unless they're trying for a fresh start.

In anycase, any clue on why they left and came here? Names would be nice, don't want to see people here getting scammed or MPK'd without any warning.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2007 10:49am by Leobardis
#6 Jun 23 2007 at 7:31 AM Rating: Good
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After some snooping on the Garuda forums...

Seems Demo (the LS) was one of the major EGLS on Garuda, and has(had?) a bad rep mostly for their drama and there blatant use of hacking and boting. of course that’s all just alla rumor mongering so can't say its true for sure. It is interesting to note that quite a few of the posters seemed to have mixed feelings about them. The only name I got was Govenor; I think he's one of the leaders.

Many of them bought things on the cheap there and are probably going to flood our economy with it for a nice profit... so there's that to look forward to. >_>

no one seems to know why they left. They do seem to be rather disliked as a group, but as davidmelendez keeps proving, people don't just go away cause you don't like em. If one of em would tell us there probably wouldn't be all this commotion.

Worst case scenario we are stuck with yet another corrupt EG, like leobardis said, just another drop in the bucket.
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#7 Jun 23 2007 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Man, lol. I haven't posted on this website since I was lvling up my war lol... anyways. A lot of what you probably read is false. We did used to mpk LS' that mpk'd us prior. As long as no one mpk's us or anything you have nothing to worry about lol. I made a post on BG about this when I was talking to someone else about it, so I'm not gonna go in-depth about it. For anyone wondering why we moved servers, it was because we were tired of Garuda server and just wanted a change. I realize Kujata isn't the greatest server, but it's an improvement. It's just nice to see some new faces and not deal with 18 man alliances camping Tiamat the second it opens. If any of you have any problems with anyone send me a tell in-game. I don't check these forums much, was bored.
#8 Jun 23 2007 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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It's just nice to see some new faces and not deal with 18 man alliances camping Tiamat the second it opens.

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#9 Jun 23 2007 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
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we were tired of Garuda server and just wanted a change


whats so diffrent about it?

If you guys came as an HNMLS why did one of you apply to TBC?
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#10SevIfrit, Posted: Jun 23 2007 at 5:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) dunno i had a covo in game with gov he seemed like cool **** tho. **** their is **** going around about me ppl know i migrated from ifrit lol oh well , not like i was trying to hide it anyways.
#11 Jun 23 2007 at 9:21 PM Rating: Default
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It's just nice to see some new faces and not deal with 18 man alliances camping Tiamat the second it opens.

^^;

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#12 Jun 24 2007 at 3:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Leobardis wrote:
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It's just nice to see some new faces and not deal with 18 man alliances camping Tiamat the second it opens.

^^;

^^;...


I lol'd at this too. Watch out TBC!
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#13 Jun 24 2007 at 4:52 AM Rating: Good
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The epic battle of who has their bots the closest to the place the NM spawns at.

And people wonder why i stopped doing endgame... \(¯-¯);/ *sigh*
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#14 Jun 24 2007 at 7:54 PM Rating: Good
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Another bit of warning from someone on Garuda.

Everything bad you hear/read about demo is probably true and everything good you hear is gonna come from their members. Any of the drama threads you see on KI or something aren't really exaggerated that much. There's a reason our server is pretty much rejoicing their departure and it's not just because there's gonna be a little bit less crowding at kings.

As with most ls's there are some "good" people and some "bad" people. The problem with Demo is it's like Frankenstein's monster. Sure you had a great meripo with the right elbow but you have to remember it's a chunk of dead flesh and once it joins up with it's friends for an event you can bet it's gonna end up going on a rampage and end up killing someone.
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#15 Jun 25 2007 at 4:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Sure you had a great meripo with the right elbow but you have to remember it's a chunk of dead flesh and once it joins up with it's friends for an event you can bet it's gonna end up going on a rampage and end up killing someone.


This is an outstandingly amusing analogy, thanks! And I'll be sure to heed your warning but yeah, I'm sure if they live up to it we'll find out soon enough ^^;

Edited, Jun 25th 2007 12:43pm by liedra
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#16 Jun 25 2007 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
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does this not bother any one else?

they came over as an HNMLS yet one of the leaders is applying to TBC...?
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#17 Jun 25 2007 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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Meh, for those of us who don't tour the HNM circuit, I doubt we'll see much change.
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#18 Jun 25 2007 at 7:50 AM Rating: Default
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That's excatly what the Jews said when Hitler first came into power
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#19 Jun 25 2007 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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does this not bother any one else?

they came over as an HNMLS yet one of the leaders is applying to TBC...?
Who?
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#20 Jun 25 2007 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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does this not bother any one else?

they came over as an HNMLS yet one of the leaders is applying to TBC...?

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#21 Jun 25 2007 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I find it really hard to believe that an entire LS changed servers. Most likely a few of the leaders changed over thus breaking the old LS. With this Gov guy applying to TBC only confirms this.
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#22 Jun 25 2007 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I find it really hard to believe that an entire LS changed servers. Most likely a few of the leaders changed over thus breaking the old LS. With this Gov guy applying to TBC only confirms this.





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#23 Jun 25 2007 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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That's excatly what the Jews said when Hitler first came into power


I dont think its exactly what they said. I think they were more worried about genocide than Tiamat. Of course, I could have that wrong; I wasn't around in Poland in the late 30's.

Also, Godwin's Law.
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#24 Jun 25 2007 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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I find it really hard to believe that an entire LS changed servers. Most likely a few of the leaders changed over thus breaking the old LS. With this Gov guy applying to TBC only confirms this.


Demo does exist on our server now though. Deputiss (sp) was sitting near the AH, that as his ls as a shell holder. They were apparently also seen camping Shikigami weapon. Whether its HNM, social, sky what have you..so a bunch did transfer over.

but it does seem odd how people manage to organize such massive moves. :X it'd be hard to coordinate such a thing and keep people together.

Edited, Jun 25th 2007 4:35pm by Glddaisy
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#25 Jun 25 2007 at 8:15 PM Rating: Default
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#26 Jun 25 2007 at 9:04 PM Rating: Default
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As much as I know other server members posting on other server forums = war... which means we need to invade their's and get the skivvy on this BS.

WAR i tell you, WAR...

Okay more of a pointless invasion kinda like what Bush is doing now...


I call BS!
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#27 Jun 25 2007 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
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but it does seem odd how people manage to organize such massive moves. :X it'd be hard to coordinate such a thing and keep people together.


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#28 Jun 25 2007 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
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does this not bother any one else?

they came over as an HNMLS yet one of the leaders is applying to TBC...?


http://bluegartrls.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=19550

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#29 Jun 25 2007 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
I jumped the gun a bit with TBC, I moved and the only other person was someone whose account was being played by someone else while they're off serving our country. Once it was made clear that my entire LS was coming over, I withdrew my application. No attempts at spying or anything of the like. Other than another shell at Fafnir, I really see no downside to us being here for the rest of the server. Other than a couple of the native Kujatians, we've been nothing but respectable and kind to the other players here on Kujata. Which was shown at AV today, other people asked about it, we invited them to come up. It's a shame there was drama taken into it, I wish we all could of worked together a bit more but what can you do.

As it stands though, I do enjoy this server, the people are great and I hope we can be good neighbors. And for the drama on Garuda, I doubt anyone can argue that it's a much different scene there. Different situation just require different approaches. Mostly everyone has been relatively cordial to us and as such we just return the favor.
#30 Jun 26 2007 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, you guys move servers and instantly get a new thread(s) about it. Talk about infamous/popular.

Truth be told, most if not all of the endgame shells have engaged in shady activities, MPK, bot, stealing, etc. Demo just happens to be the only LS who will tell you to your face and then have a good laugh about it, whereas the rest try to cover it up or deny it. That doesn't necessarily make Demo better or worse than any other linkshells from Garuda.

Best of luck to you guys on Kujata.
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#31 Jun 26 2007 at 7:14 AM Rating: Default
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**** it Gov, I'm looking forward to Legendary Drama threads.

Don't let me down you guys ^^

I'll be a lurking ^^
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...shady activities, MPK, bot, stealing, etc. Demo just happens to be the only LS who will tell you to your face and then have a good laugh about it, whereas the rest try to cover it up or deny it.


They're in good company.
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After I get married this friday, and get back from my honeymoon... then after I beat CoP(6-4 Airship ; ;) we'll talk about my transfer ~.^ (lol)

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**** man I didn't know you were getting married. Congratulations! It's not to late to turn back though =P

As far as Vega goes he's always out of line but at least he's funny about it.

And yeah I'm still on Garuda if you wanna say hi Spike. <3



Edited, Jun 26th 2007 12:17pm by Kenjakat
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#35 Jun 28 2007 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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*shrug*


Only good experiences so far, Clynt hooked me up with a R3 (forgot the WHM's name) when I bit it in Kuftal the other day.
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Rofl, every time I hear the name "clint" now I think of the bad guy in the chad vader episodes (youtube chad vader, its great!).
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#37 Jun 30 2007 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Reading this stuff makes me soooo glad I'm not part of the endgame scene.

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#38 Jun 30 2007 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
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So they've been on the server all of... 2-3 weeks, the entire Demo LS is under review by ALL the game masters (bye all I mean one). They openly bot and are probably going to get banned for it. They have had MASSIVE calls against them, every single member.

(I know it lacks class but) I so saw this **** coming, no one just gets tired of a server... maybe all your friends quit then I could see you wanting to jump. But when you leave w/ all your friends to come to a new server... you know the whole server hated you.../shrug
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#39 Jun 30 2007 at 9:45 AM Rating: Default
How do you openly bot? Other than claiming which may just mean we're more experienced with claiming against competition. What proof do you have that we do anything you're spouting off about?

And we're not the only HNM/Sky ls to leave Garuda, anyone on Garuda can tell you its not a friendly scene. It's not like we left our friends behind either, our friends came with. People that weren't in Demo before the switch came into Demo just to stay with their friends during our exodus.

And at every HNM camp, I've placed calls against every single member not in Demo. You all won't just shut up in /say. It's immature and ignorant, while Kujata may be less populated and less crowded than Garuda. It certainly lacks the class that the HNMLS of Garuda had.
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This has to be one of the worst thread topics of all time. All hear say and no substance. Anyone could start a thread about any LS and start spouting off complete crap just for the **** of it and get the same results. Immature and rediculous. And using links to more hear say in another furum and/or thread does not constitute fact. Present facts or this is just what it looks like. Garbage.
#41 Jun 30 2007 at 12:09 PM Rating: Default
The people in Demo are the best at what they do, and they do it like clockwork. I used to be in Demo (about 6-8 months ago?) and I never saw them bot/hack-claim a single hnm or king.

Get on their bad side, though, and you'd better not ever let your mob go unclaimed.
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Present facts or this is just what it looks like. Garbage.

Ah. Clearly someone who is unfamiliar with the way Kujata does business.

As a former stirrer of the pot, allow me to explain: Facts are irrelevant; popular opinion is everything.

If it looks like a cheater, walks like a cheater, and moves en masse from one server to another like a cheater, it's probably a cheater. Even if it's not a cheater, everyone will believe that it's a cheater until - eventually - it just gives up and becomes a cheater.
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#43 Jun 30 2007 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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you picked the wrong server bub... and just got pwnd by qwen...
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#44 Jun 30 2007 at 10:12 PM Rating: Default
Clearly, I picked the right server. Your dragons told me so. You've had some stick up your *** from the begining of this thread, are you even in an hnmls? Or do you just like to ***** on Alla with no proof.
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Well, drama has been in short supply recently. An influx of players who appear not only to have slippery ethics, but to be quite proud of that fact, should provide quite a bit of entertainment in future.
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#46 Jul 03 2007 at 9:17 AM Rating: Default
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Sounds like Kujata is full of whinny lil b*tches in endgame
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#47 Jul 03 2007 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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Alla with no proof.


all you need to do for proof is place a GM call against governor and ask how many have been placed on him bsides yours thats what I did.... then try w/ some members of his ls and the GM will tell you the same ****... They have had LOADS of calls against them and will just add yours to a compendium while they "build there case"...
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#48SevIfrit, Posted: Jul 03 2007 at 9:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wait people still haven't just come to terms with demo is here and no matter what ppl say they here atleast another 78ish days. If you complain they bot you can't expect anyone to believe that kujata king camp were bot free until emmigration. So relax and gov gl on claims drops, you guys forget its a game.
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you guys forget its a game.


With rules like every other game in existence. I never understood how cheaters can do what they do and NOT feel slimy afterward. Maybe they just shower a lot.
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#50Kenjakat, Posted: Jul 03 2007 at 10:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) B*tch b*tch B*tch. That's all this thread is. Anyway, I somehow seriously doubt a GM is going to look kindly on a call that is supposed to be reserved for gaming violations, so you can get some numbers on your continuous stalking routine. I seriously doubt any of your claims are anything but fictional Ketrel.
#51SevIfrit, Posted: Jul 03 2007 at 10:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) my point was just that demo wouldn't be the only ls at that camp cheating, the other cheating ls really can't talk **** they botting as well, if your ls isn't their then it doesn't effect you if demo claims gets drops. If your ls is up their w/o bots trying to beat a bunch of botters then i'm sorry lol.
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