Good Luck, You're Gonna Need ItFollow

Yeah I dunno what all the fuss is about. Not like Demo ppl are doing anything new if they're botting... and it's not like you can do anything about botters in general by complaining here. If you have an objection to it, don't go, or go with people you trust to not bot (heh) ... or go do salvage or einherjar or something.

JE doesn't camp kings as a mandatory or even semi-regular thing so I guess that side of things doesn't affect me at all ;P (and I don't understand why it affects the main posters in this thread either, since when do you camp kings Ketrel? lol)

I've only had good runs in with people from Demo to be honest, we have dynamis at the same time on Sundays and have had a few conflicts and they've always been pretty approachable and not told us to bugger off or anything which is nice. Couple of miscommunications but the leaders have been generally happy to negotiate rather than just do their own thing all the time, and I for one appreciate that. I just wish they used the dynamis calendar or posted their schedule on their website so we could schedule around/with them rather than chasing each other around in the days up to it ;P hint hint ;P

Oh, thats good. Everything falls into place, the puzzle is complete.

LOL, I STILL can't believe this thread is not dead yet. Really goes to show the level of suck that Demo has achieved.

epic thread is epic

Nobody is forcing you to post; you come here of your own volition. If you don't want to spend any more of your time here, stop posting. I can damn near guarantee that if Demo people abandon this thread, it will die.

I was hanging in there for a bit with that jedi guy until he started slamming on the Liberal Arts degree / Photoshop class. I'll have you know its pretty damn difficult to get a degree in my field from a reputable university. And then the spelling thing? Seriously?

I'm glad you guys are open to Dynamis scheduling, seeing as how thats the only thing that affects me. In the matter of "Bandwagon" opinions, its is a generally accepted ideal (if not a generally followed one) that cheating is wrong. Its the same as the speeding reference before. Everyone does it, but we all know we shouldn't. People aren't bandwagon-ing here, they're expressing a commonly held belief.

Hell, even you guys admit its wrong, you just do it anyways.

To be fair, there are like 20 people total that read and post on the Kujata server forums. And quite a few pages of this thread were devoted to insults over spelling. I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that many Kujatans don't know nor do they care who Demo is. Or other egls as a matter of fact.

Also, I find it funny that Garuda has their Bad Player thread stickied haha. Gave me a laugh.

You fail to see the power.. of the dark side.

/em pulls out his turdsaber.

I will now dual-wield turdsabers and prove to you the power of the dark side of the schwartz.

*makes lightsaber noises and jumps around his house*

BRB I made a mess.... ; ;

I assure you, this is timid compared the ghosts of drama past.

This whole thread reads more like a jack russell terrier nipping at the heels of the big-dog days of inter-linkshell sniping. At least DB had a few semi-literate people that would surface now and then to make it an interesting read.

Quote:
What other LS has a 8 page thread about them?

LOL Remember Nova

Ahhh, this has been pretty entertaining at certain points guys, thanks. It's also been painful...




Capital l-o-l for you there, genius. It's basic English, that's for sure, you'll get the humility part later on. Nitpicking spelling on a game forum is something you do in your head, people, not within the forum itself. Fixing the mouth-breathers' punctuation is a lost cause. It makes you look like a fool when you pick on a kid with Down Syndrome, the same premise exists here.



To the rest of you, yes others do read the Kujata forums, but not often. Don't let the occasional browser/lurker down, roll out the drama llama parade, bitches! Demo is full of gil/gear hungry people that don't seem to have anything resembling lives. Perhaps they do, few of us care even a tiny bit. I'd hate to camp against them, but I figure such is e-life in this teen angst-ridden pissing contest involving mentally and socially stunted morons with mixed priorities and insufficient employment. George Carlin has a good one: “Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!”

How many people out there stop to consider where they stand in regard to that?

QFT and then some

yo' mama.

Yep, I read that part. iiiiiiiit's kind of exactly why I posted. Y'see irony is a powerful thing. It's even better when someone like Jedi kind of just says 'how could you correct someone when you're full of errors yourself?' when he, himself is displaying errors. And the thing I said about 'don't nitpick grammar on a forum' applies to everyone, not just Jedi. It's juvenile.

Now I'll check back again in a week or so, you guys had better have something better than this or I'll be disappointed.


::clever emoticon::

Hi Gwen ^.^

Demo Fun Facts from the Garuda point of view:

1. Demo has many members who are very nice people.
a) Each person in Demo is different and probably joined the shell for their own, varied reasons. Just because you find the shell to be overly aggressive and perhaps arrogant, doesn't mean that "one-on-one" they are not nice people. To them, getting that claim is important business.

2. Not everyone would join Demo if given a chance.
a) The events Demo loves, do not appeal to everyone.
b) Personally, I don't camp anything for 3 hours. EVER! I don't care what the mob drops. To me, it's not worth it to stand around for 3 hours. That's just me. Cartoon items rarely "float my boat", but to each his own.

3. Many players from Demo are very skilled players
a) Like it or not, these guys know this game and play very well. Cheaters or not, they are "better" players than I am. They know more, they have better jobs and better gear. I could not compete.

4. Demo did not leave Garuda because they were not successful.
a) Demo would succeed on any server. Their attitude does not really allow fo failure. If you are willing to do the work, and would even consider losing an account or two by hacking, you will succeed (if that is actually success to you).

5. Demo chose Kujata for a number of reasons.
a) I'm sure Demo's leaders felt they could dominate the HNM/Kings scene on Kujata. This is not an insult, they would do well on most servers. In addition, this was probably not the main reason they chose Kujata.
b) Kujata/Garuda gear prices. I watched FFXIAH and witnessed Demo member stock up on various valuable items before leaving Garuda. These same items were quickly sold on Kujata for a tidy profit.

6. Demo members measure their ingame success by the items they obtain.
a) Right or wrong, this seems to be the truth. It also seems many Demo members can't really understand those of us who don't really care much about the gear or gil.

7. Demo is willing to cheat to get what they want.
a) I don't know if this is still true because I am no longer on the same server they play on, but in the past, they had no problem using 3rd party tools and even losing an account to get what they want.
b) I have a friend who was in Demo, used a 3rd party program, got banned and Demo gave him a new character. Losing the occasional account seems to be the cost of doing business in Demo. To me, playing another character is not a consideration at all.

This is all I can think of for right now.

It's my opinion Demo will probably move to another server one day. I think this migration has been very successful for Demo. With the values of items being so different "server-to-server", why not? Demo members seem to thrive on the drama they create. I would imagine it would be fun to be the "bad guys" if you were with all your friends. "Oh! They are so naughty!!!"

Observation...
When you decide to critique these posts for typos, misspellings and grammar, you are no longer focusing on the topics and ideas. This is a sign the original topic is either finished or you are unable to defend your side of the argument and need to choose an argument you can actually win.

These threads are not only for the English major's and the highly educated. They are for all of us to have a voice and hopefully entertain each other.

Edited, Nov 13th 2007 7:31am by ANewbForever

just ask Roel LOLZ

Drama {Do you need it?}

Yeah Kenja, I know what you are thinking...

I refuse to camp a King for 3 hours, but I'll take the time to write a long post about my assumptions of a linkshell that left my server months ago.

When scrolling down to the link to the Garuda thread in Alla, I noticed the latest topic of dicussion for Kujata was this old "Good Luck, You're Gonna Need It" thread. I laughed and thought to myself... What sort of mischief has Demo been getting into lately. This thread was started in June and it's still the most active for this server.

I never had any problems with the members of Demo because I never tried to compete with them for a claim. For the most part they were nice to me. I would imagine they would even help me get an item if I was willing to pay them for their trouble. I kinda saw Demo as the FFXI outlaws or pirates.

I think the people who complain about Demo even though they are not in a competitive HNMls do so because it's fun to voice your opinion on a message board. I don't mind when people disagree with my point of view. It's all in good fun.

Anyone who wants to come to the most famous server in FFXI (home of Pikko, Demo, and Anna). Come to Garuda. The weather's great!

Ok... Go ahead and say it...

GTFO Garuda!

What's brown and sticky?

A stick.

wow... this thread almost died.

almost.......

HAY GUYZ HOWS FFXI? LOL

BOY LOOKS LIKE UR HAVIN FUNZZZ

C U IN AZEROTH!!!!








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