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he complained to ME and Mikrik a lot which drove me nuts (mik as well) -_-. Hes a job perfectionist and a manipulative disraceful sack of flesh. :P I did a psychological assesment of him (with what I know ^^;) and hes a narcissist -_-. Sadly hes dating one of my friends -_- if he hurts her I WILL BURN HIM AND THEN TAKE HIS CORPSE AND BURN THAT THEN TOSS IT INTO THE OCEAN THEN BLOW UP THE OCEAN... you get the idea... -_- we got him a soboro. I thought that would shut him up but no -_- it did not. Not even during the run... ^^ glad I wont hear him anymore <3

lol i just readed some.. damn it's funny

I blist people based on my experience with them. I don't necessarily care that he is an omggreat COR in the dunes. It's not necessrily anyone one person's fault when things go wrong in exp parties like that, but it's how you react to them and how you treat the people that matters...

Bozo is pretty much davidmelendez's twin in my book...

Edited, Jan 8th 2008 12:12pm by FFXISoldur

welcome to my blist Myakat.

I do understand that you wanted to leave the xp pt in the mire because the xp sucked cause ur lv was too low.. this is understandable.

But warping right in the middle of battle, this is not kind. Could at least had waited for the fight to be over.

Celelove

it seems many people hates Yumaria. I remember that he was my friend a long time ago and i never had any problems with him.

What he did to get many people to hate him?

lol sry i was half asleep, didn't even noticed...

Yeah the force d/c thing is pretty common, but it still puts a kink in my pantyhose. Twice I had this guy Gaurdiannnnnn in my party who did that, and that's not a typo, that IS how he spells his name... cuz N's are cool I guess... idk. The first time, we had to wait a while to get the tank a rep, and when the rep shows up Guardiannnnnn "d/c". Second time the pt is going to slow for his taste and he keeps whining about it, but oh well, we manage with what was seeking. Boom, we get into a jam with a link and he books out. Third time, he was a rep, and of course he "d/c" when it started getting late, cuz apparently no one matters but him.
It's rude, it's inconsiderate, but a lot of ppl do it. I think one of these days when I'm bored and find him seekin a pt, I'm gonna grab some friends and take him out to the middle of a ridiculously mob-swarmed spot, then tell everyone to "d/c" at the same time. XD

Lol I thought I check out this thread because a while back I got a threat from ScaredMidget saying that he would "defile [my] image on the alla n KI boards." I actually wasnt going to bother posting about this inscident since I dont frequent these boards anyway... and I did do something that pissed off a few ppl; namely Scaredmiget and Gaurdiannnnnn. But since I now see that someone mentions Gaurdiannnnnn as being a 'd/c' prick, I thought I'd share my one experience with the kid.
It was just your typical grind-the-last-few-lvls through the Dunes pty and Gaurdiannnnnn was the ldr(whm). Exp wasn't horrible, but it is the Dunes, so theres not much to work with. Anyway, I was also a whm in this pty and it was going by fine. Then Scaredmidget shows up on his then lvl60~ish RDM and Gaurdiannnnnn tells the pty that he asked him to PL us. Since we did have 2 whm's I had thought the PL to be unnecessary (there rest of the pty was DD heavy and with 2 whm's we really were doing fine).
This is where it got interesting though. After 2 fights since the PL arrived, Gaurdiannnnnn proceeded to say in pty that I was "gimping xp" and that my lvl was "too low" (even though we were all in the 17-19 range and i was lvl 18 lol). I realized that he just basically wanted me out b/c he now had a PL and I was actually fine with that at the time. [As a side note though, has anyone actually ever done that to someone? Kicked a person out of a xp pty because a PL can replace them? I just find that rude and bad playsmanship imo, but w/e.] So I send Gaurdiannnnnn a tell and ask him if I could just stay for 500 more xp because I was about to lvl and at 19whm could get out of the Dunes anyway. He doesnt answer and 2 fights later kicks me off the pty.
Now, I had nvr before been kicked off of a pty. Ever. So this really ticked me off. Especially since I did politely ask to stay for 500 more xp. I dont think that I could have been such a burden that a measley 500 xp was too much to ask. I hit /shutdown and as the timer is running a send a /t to Scaredmigget saying: "ur gonna lol when u see who he's messing with" to which he responds with a "lol?"
Point of that little conversation is that I had met SM when he was first starting out in the game. I helped him out, gave him tips on how to play, and what to farm to make some quick early gil. (He had asked me for gil, but I have always been strongly against giving new players free gil b/c I feel that if they dont begin playin the game the right way, then they are simply going to leech gil off of other ppl for the rest of their careers.) So he asked me way back then to add him to my FL. I complied and we occasionally chatted. Actually, now that I think about it, the next time I helped SM after that innicial meeting was when he got me into an up and coming EGLS of which Celelove was a part of. And me and Cele helped him beat his rank 2-3 dragon fight. So I had thought that me and him went back. I thought we were friends. Lol, clearly, I was wrong.
Back to the main story now ^^; I log into my main account, jump on my RDM/BLM, and still pissed by what Gaurdiannnnnn did, proceed to get my char to Secret Beach to terrorize this xp pty, only to find out that they had already replaced me with a person who was trully gimping their xp: a lvl15 DD. I'll admit I lost it. I proceeded to gather up all xp mobs in secret beach, which btw is almost too easy. XD
Got them all, and brought them to the front of their pty. Now, I wouldnt do something evil like attempt to MPK them or something. No, I just sleepga and /sit. At first I dont think they understood the magnitude of what was happening, until their puller runs out to get the next mob only to find out that there isnt one. Lol. I admit its not one of my proudest moments, actually it might just be the only time I ever did something like it to other players. Originally, I had felt bad to dragging along all the DD's into it but then they began harrasing me and threatening me, so i stopped feeling so bad and began to enjoy my little outting.
SM /t's me "lol, u where the other whm?" Which I proceed to deny knowing what he's talking about. And goes off on a rant about how I'm not a friend and he doesnt ever want to talk to me again, calls me all sorts of names, and threatens me with the afor mentioned reprecussions for my actions. Am actually cleaning that up quite a bit, but that's irrelevant.
Here's the kicker to the story though. After SM is done abusing me in /t (long after I had left the Dunes btw) I simply reply "well if ur done now, u can simply add me to ur /blist and u wont ever hear from me again." To which he responds: "No, am not going to give u that satisfaction."
I'm sry, WTF?! LMAO. Can it be that you have so few friends that you would rather keep me on ur FL than put me on ur /blist? I didn't remove him off of my FL either just for one reason though: too lazy. (and because I found that last /t too funny).
Nvr spoke to him again, until I was begged by a friend to help him with a AU mission and SM happened to be in his pty. Which was made even funnier because I /wave @ SM in pty chat. and LOL. and he, didnt say a peep. :)
As for Gaurdiannnnnn, I think I forever scarred the child. Whenever I ran passed him in Jeuno, he /wave'd @ me. And I /wave'd right back with a /grin to follow and continue on my merry way.

Wow, I think I overdid it with all the details. And like I said before, I dont tend to do this type of things to ppl anyway. Just posting this to get a few lol's out of ppl. And maybe some wont feel that I'm too guilty since apparently Scaredmidget and Gaurdiannnnnn have already made the Kujata Blacklist forum either way. ^^;

Peace.

Angeluzun,

So basically you came back and ruined the experience points for 5 people that did absolutely nothing to you in retaliation for the one person that was a jerk.

I've had that happen to me three times since I started playing, I'm in a good low level party with a PL and the leader kicks someone for EXTREMELY gimped gear, or because they are not holding their own or whatever reason. Then the person that got kicked goes and changes to omgithinkimleet job and comes back to trash our exp. I GM them and that is considered grief tactics, so you can get put in jail for it, which I hope you did. I have a feeling you were kicked for not holding your own, when I was in double WHM parties at the lower levels as a WHM I would nuke with banish or low level blm spells, and/or melee with a club. I was more than able to hold my own against most other jobs. I'm supposing that you may have not been doing that.

If Angeluzun not your in game name then I sure hope someone will post it here. I'll blist you to save myself the actual trouble of ever having to meet you...



Edited, Jan 29th 2008 11:24am by FFXISoldur

I wouldnt be so quick to say this - although he did admit in his post it wasnt a shining moment of his.

If you witnissed someone being kicked from your pt because they were replaced by a pl (and come on, it seems pretty obvious), what would you do? I tell you what I would do, and what I have done in this rare instance - I would leave the party.

At least 4 of the other members were in the party when it happened, and they should have realized what was happening. Why would the guy leave without saying goodbye? Why would he come back with a higher lvl character? In short, what did these 4 members do in reaction to the asshat leader's actions? They did absolutely zilch.

The only true victim is the rep, imo.

A little dramatic for this instance, but the old saying "evil exists when good men do nothing" certainly rings true.

Edited, Jan 29th 2008 1:32pm by ManifestOfKujata

nice addition mani



yes I'm still lurking around yes I know its sad...

I apologize if it seemed like I was gloating. I thought I was simply telling a story.

I think I already covered that with:
and: Also ManifestofKujata said something that I think applies:

Happy to say that I don't play lol-RMT style on ANY job that I've ever lvl'd. Not even close. As to the 'not holding [my] own' bit, I believe that is kind of hard to accomplish being that we were alternating turns on main healing each battle; one cures while one rests. And if at some point we both had near full mp after a battle, I wouldn't stand around and leech. I need divine and enfeeb. skill ups! So your assumption:
is wrong. :(
No, didn't get put in jail. Have nvr even gotten a GM call telling me that I'm doing something wrong. (I did expect one on this particular instance but it didn't happen.) Oh, and I'm sorry you feel that I should have been thrown in jail for it too. :/ [Note: Not a smart @$$ remark btw ^^;]
No need for someone else to post it, in-game name is Angeluzun. Umm, irdk what to say to that other than if you feel you have to /blist me for it, go right ahead. I'm not going to beg for you not to lol, everyone can do as they please with their own /blist. Other than that, all I have left to say to you is: your loss. ><

Thnx for the support Mani, Cele, and Ketrel. ^^
One last thought though.
I think that I would have actually felt wrong doing what I did at the time had the rep been in the correct lvl range of the pty. In my experience, when one person is way below or way above a certain pty's lvl, they will usually tell the party that they feel they are gimping the party's xp. And that they will rather leave. I've done it, and alot of other ppl I've pty'd with have had that curtesy. It frustrated me that the ldr was claiming that I was gimping xp when I wasn't, that no one else said anything about his comment(maybe they missed it? that was what I first thought), and that they didn't say anything either perhaps when he invites someone way below pty lvl. All that aside the fact that all I asked for was 500more xp. lol. Someone might mention that I could of solo'd the last 500 xp since it wasn't alot, but really, who can solo xp on whm anyway specially at that lvl and specially after you've been booted from a pty. So all in all i didn't feel too bad for the rep.

...That was more than one more thought, I think. Lol.

Peace.

Edited, Jan 30th 2008 5:55pm by Angeluzun

So despite the rep doing nothing wrong, not knowing about the situation, but having the wrong level, it was ok to come ruin it all for them anyway?

Did you think maybe the guy might have been seeking since forever to get a PT, maybe he's not as familiar with the game? We still do get new players and levelling up from dunes to even G.Citidel is a major pain with so few players levelling new jobs now.

I think that's a pretty poor attempt to excuse your actions; you may say that you're not proud of it, but I wouldn't put it past you to do it another time should it happen again.

Alright, Mayori. Since your so hell-bent and passionate to make me look like a heartless bastard, I'll tell you what I told SM and now FFXISoldur: just add me to your /blist. I won't mind, everyone can do as they please with thier /blist, and from the looks of it YOU'RE just trying to find excuses to add me to yours (and possibly even want to get other people to do the same). Let me show you why now I think your just out to get me.

Now, this is something I got a little LOL out of:
Seriously, I dont think anyone is so dense as to see someone purposely doing something against a pty and not want to know wth is going on. Besides, like I said, the rest of the pty wasn't exactly oblivious to what was going on either.
That kinda throws your 'maybe he was a noob and didnt know any better and you probably just made a new player leave the game b/c you gave him a horrible experience' argument out the window, doesn't it?

That aside, I honestly don't see what this last post you made has anything to do with your original post, since the part you're quoting was meant for someone else.

And as to what I said being , from what you quoted, that is not a poor excuse, that is fact. Have you purposefully stayed in a pty dispite knowing that you are too high or too low for that pty? Idk the answer to that but since you are here playing righteous as to who has wronged who, saying things like: I have to assume you would have left the pty. But here you are, defending someone for not having left. So it's ok for someone else to do something you wouldn't do but I'm still a doushbag for doing something you wouldn't do. Lol. Hey, if you are going play righteous, please play properly and do leave your bias at the door.

Other than that, I'm glad you also came forward and said that you've That's what you're doing now: ranting, going off on tangents about all the different possiblities as to why the lowest lvl DD didn't leave. Hopefully this puts an end to that. ^^
Glad to help,
Angeluzun.

Lol. Peace.

Hmmm... I think it's safe to say that sometimes things happen to us that really push us over the edge because we know that we would never do something like that, and for the reason because we would never want that very thing done to us. That being said, I think we've all done things we aren't necessarily proud of because some has acted in just such a manner. What bugs me is that people do that crap over and over again all the time and don't care about anyone but themselves. I'm sure they're none too pleased when ppl do the same things to them. So I don't really care about Angeluzun's one-time stunt, although it could have been handled better (just my opinion though). What SM and Gaurdiannnnn do is all the time, and he's right about the rest of the party. If I'm in a party, whether I'm leader or not, if someone leaves suddenly and doesn't warp right away, I assume it's because he was kicked, and I'd want to find out why. If he was afk'in all the time or just sucking or complaining, i wouldn't bother, that'd be my only reason not to ask. So c'mon guys, give a little slack, not like anyone with any sense of pride or dignity would be happy about being kicked by a party like that.
And Angel...
LOL that made my day!!

Wow, did you read anything I said to you or did you just decide to skim over my post and take in only the parts that made any sense to you?



No, they are not, and prior to your coming back and being a humongous prick, the newcomer to the party probably had no idea what had ocurred before s/he joined. You can bet your ass that if someone turned up and started acting like a total jerk killing everything in sight that they'd end up asking. As stated above which you seem to love glossing over, you made a victim out of someone but won't take the responsibility for it and for someone not proud of their actions, you're making one hell of a crusade out of defending them.



Please quote exactly where I said that before you start making up ridiculous and outrageous retorts to pad out your argument.



You're saying the new rep should have left despite having no idea what transpired prior to you turning up again and wiping everything out? Are you for real?



I "LOL'd" at that. Honestly, you seem to have no grasp of understanding here, you did a dipsh*t thing to someone, stated that you weren't proud of it despite talking like it was one of the best things you did and are now defending it to the hilt. You refuse to see that by your childish actions you made at least one persons experience in that party an extremelly poor one, but then seem to think it's ok because they should have left immediately what with being the wrong level. Ergo you're an idiot.

By your own actions you might as well be Scaredmidget or Gaurdiannn because you acted as big of a douche as they did.

I'd like to add Overlordopacus to the list. As Kujata's premier noob, this guy likes to constantly run his mouth about how he's so great at his jobs he plays, how he's one of Kujata's best characters etc... yet he wipes to Genbu.

Also seen are 'casting stoneskin instead of sleepga' in ODS KS30, Wearing crimson gear full time on his RDM even when he's expected to main heal, and not owning an Errant Houppelande for hmp mode, despite it costing only 25k.

Various names given to him by his own linkshell include Wipeacus, Noobacus, Slowpac, Gimpacus etc. because he can't really do anything in game right. XD


Edited, Feb 5th 2008 11:03pm by TiggyWuff

Hi. I'm Esdain of Kujata. Drop your scrocks and grab your socks.

...and if you ever even knew any of the Kujata all-stars then maybe you have heard of me. Mi lady, Beryle, is the most selflesf people that I've ever met. Black list her if get off on reading f'n lamesauce alla forums. (Who does that anymore. Most to wiki forums. Really. Better.) This woman has done nothing but help for the last four years. She's always been selfless. I'm Esdain of Kujata nd I approve this message.

~~~

Esy

I second on the notion Beryle is the most selfless person I have met since I have been playing this game. Shame on Vanesco for dragging her name through the mud.

Mayori, I was going to continue this argument with you however it seems that I don't have to. Why? Simply because I can't continue to carry a conversation with a hypocrite--it's a logically daunting task. I'll send you a separate PM expanding a little on that last statement, which will hopefully help you gracefully bow out of this... morality crusade you enbarked on against me? (Ok, yes, I'm enjoying this now, lemme'lone XD)

Umm, just one last thing (sry, I can't help myself, and it doesn't matter really if you respond to this or not) but can you please explain how it is possible for someone to 'gloss over' something that they themselves said? Or better yet, how you can accuse me of 'skimming over' your post when your the one basing your whole argument on a quote that I have aleady said was not directed at you?

Anyway, I hope this is done.

Peace.

[Doesn't my lack of direct quotes on this post make look...lacking? Lol, just an after-thought.]

So basically that means you've got no argument left to structure and you're resorting to playing like I'm the one who did something wrong instead. Nice move.

hmm no i don't understand

lol filthy

i won't blist u.. i like u...but...what's ur name in-game?

lol

Cheerleading every post about dramaqueens? lol this is a public forum and everyone is free to post whatever they want..and besides, you aren't better Mayori.. because you seem to always flame angeluzun everytime he try to explain something.

In my book, angeluzun have nothing to apologize for. And even if he does, he already said that he wasn't proud of his actions. and no i wasn't joking when i said something about: when the drama would stop.. and besides, i already got my answer: the drama will stop the day that SE decides to shutdown FFXI forever.