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#1 Nov 18 2008 at 3:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi everyone. My IGN is Bubs and I'm a Taru War who will eventually be a Thf. Currently I'm level 8 and I'm gonna run up to 12 and then hit the dunes. I've played this game before but I never got very far (level 15). The one thing I could really use some help with is earning cash.

I don't know how I'm expected to buy armor or weapons when I have about 50 gil. I keep collecting crystals and trying to sell them on the San'Doria auctions but I'm not having any luck. What is a good price for a stack of eath crystals there and can anyone maybe add me in-game and give me some light help (by light help I mean maybe answer a question every so often)? Any help would be much appreciated because I find this a very daunting game for a player who has nothing to start with and no friends on the game. Thanks alot!
#2 Nov 18 2008 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
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There's a Price History button on every auction listing. Click that and you can see what the market rate is for your item.

Always sell crystals in stacks of 12, they're difficult if not impossible to sell individually.

Don't be looking to NPCs for weapons and armor, they sell it far more expensively than the AH usually; but do double check before simply buying from AH. http://www.ffxiah.com/ is a great tool for that (it only measures the Jeuno AH, but in most cases armor etc is more expensive in the main cities due to lowbie demand, so if it's costly in Jeuno it'll likely be more from the city).

Always have signet on to increase your crystal gains.

Kill lots of rabbits outside sandy, their hides and meat sell surprisingly well. Bees are good too but I don't think there are many of those around your area.

There's lots of great gear that can also be extremely cost effective; check the Warrior class forum, their sticky has some pretty comprehensive info I believe.


Edit: There's a whole sentence that's being eaten by some process in the forums. I can't seem to rewrite it to make it not freak out. I've petitioned the admins but until then you'll just have to bear with the broken sentence lol :(


Re-edit: Darqflame helped me get it figured out, should look correct now.

Edited, Nov 18th 2008 4:36pm by Norellicus
#4SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 18 2008 at 10:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's every man for himself Nore, if he can't figure out price History for himself... then there's no way he will survive.
#5 Nov 19 2008 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
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I knew about Price History but as with most things in FFXI the interface is so clunky it's often hard to understand. It just had a spatter of numbers everywhere and since the prices varied so widely I didn't know what price was correct.

I find it funny that people can look at a topic and then make a completely useless post to try and either condescend a player or try and mae themselves look superior instead of maybe offering some advice. A little help might have gone a long way here? I suppose a big man like you wipes your elitist ass with nubs like me.

Thanks for the help by the way, Norellicus! I checked out the warrior forum and found plenty of useful info. Thanks again!

Edited, Nov 19th 2008 9:36am by Konkzor
#6 Nov 19 2008 at 9:31 AM Rating: Default
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I kinda disagree with Nore on the NPC thing. Sometimes you can get NQ weapons & armor cheaper at NPCs.

As for starting cash supply, depends on where you are.

San d'Oria: kill rabbits. Sell stacks of meat and crystals, trade hides to NPC for fame & gil.

Bastok: Kill bees, worms, and saplings. Sell stacks of honey, beehive chips, and seeds on AH, NPC insect wings. If you get fire crystals, use them to make copper ingots from 4 copper ores; otherwise, drop the ores. Sell zinc ores on AH.

Windurst: Kill bees, crawlers, and mandragoras. Sell stacks of silk, honey, and beehive chips on AH, trade crawler calculi to NPC for fame and gil if you have room in your inventory (doubtful). Sell stacks of crystals on AH.

Aside from that, do your first few rank-up missions and you'll get a few extra payments. That should get you started.


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#7 Nov 19 2008 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
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heavensword wrote:
I kinda disagree with Nore on the NPC thing. Sometimes you can get NQ weapons & armor cheaper at NPCs.


Norellicus wrote:
Don't be looking to NPCs for weapons and armor, they sell it far more expensively than the AH usually; but do double check before simply buying from AH.


*cough*

Edited, Nov 19th 2008 12:50pm by Norellicus
#8SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 19 2008 at 3:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nah, I wasn't trying to make myself look superior, everyone alrdy knows I am so no need for that. I look upon useless topics to insult ppl because that is a hobby of mine and I had some free time.
#9 Nov 20 2008 at 1:47 AM Rating: Good
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Wow. I dunno what to say. Good luck in life with that attitude (although I dislike actually insulting people, I like the way you do it). The topic wasn't useless because it helped me therfore it served a purpose so stfu. I agree that the interface is fine but it is clunky when compared to other MMORPGs and if you disagree you've never played another MMO.

I can understand the interface just fine but there was one time where the prices varied too much to be able to decide on a price (which is probably where a more advanced player would apply their knowledge of the economy). I never said I was looking for a game that babies me, I was looking for help on a game that is more difficult than the average MMO (I used to play WoW and I much prefer the challenge in FFXI).

Can you please realize that I'm not a retard. Have you never needed help (rhetorical question btw)? I don't want to start a war with anyone. I just wanted a bit of help and I can't see why you feel the need to call me a retard for asking a perfectly legitimate question (which you've probably asked before).

P.S. You ever heard of RMT? If you did you'd know why there are so many 75s that cant't play their job you ass. >.>

P.S.2. I really like how you construct your posts and I feel reasonably insulted. That's never happened on a forum before. If anyone on these boards was to flame me it should be you. Ever considered insulting people as a profession?



Edited, Nov 20th 2008 6:30am by Konkzor
#10 Nov 20 2008 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Norellicus wrote:
*cough*


My bad. Right emPHASis, wrong sylLABle.
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#11SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 20 2008 at 12:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I've played WoW, and multiple free mmprpgs, they all sucked, but for the most part, including wow the system babied u and walked u thru everything unlike ffxi, it requires some basic thought to be applied.
#12 Nov 20 2008 at 7:54 PM Rating: Good
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There are jobs where you get paid to insult people. But you gotta enjoy Renaissance festivals, and you've gotta be able to do it without profanity since there are kids about. I saw someone having the dude phone in an insult on her cell the other weekend, was rather amusing.

Edited, Nov 20th 2008 10:55pm by pogle
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#13SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 21 2008 at 1:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If I can't say even the basics like F*ck or C*nt Diddler, than I can't live with that.
#14 Nov 21 2008 at 6:11 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, about the response I expected. "I play an online video game constantly and talk sh*t on online forums, but obviously people who go outside to enjoy themselves at a fair are fruitcake." Not to mention the sheer lack of creativity in being unable to insult someone without resorting to the basest of crude insults. But hey, what can I expect from one of those 'retards with multiple 75s who can't play them,' eh?

In addition to professional insulters, rennfest is also the home of some of the best comedians (I dont mean that HBO 'stand around and talk at people' crap. I mean folks who have actual physical comedy still to go along with funny talk, and occasional juggling chainsaws), stage acts (the local circus has nothing on these folks, one dude last week was a former cirque du soleil performer), artists (who *doesnt love someone performing on a mobile 4 ton instrument?), and craftsmen (screw 'made in taiwan') left in the country.

Last time we went we watched a glass blowing demonstration. Was amazing stuff. Watching someone work hot glass almost like taffy to make a handle for a mug is nuts, especially considering if he slipped the stuff was over 2000deg. I just wish there'd been a more formal blacksmithing demonstration.
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#15 Nov 21 2008 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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pogle wrote:
Yeah, about the response I expected. "I play an online video game constantly and talk sh*t on online forums, but obviously people who go outside to enjoy themselves at a fair are fruitcake." Not to mention the sheer lack of creativity in being unable to insult someone without resorting to the basest of crude insults. But hey, what can I expect from one of those 'retards with multiple 75s who can't play them,' eh?


I lol'd.
#16SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 21 2008 at 3:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) touche pogle, touche. You play the game just as much as me though, so u have no room to talk lol. I stopped waking up to camp Kings, you're still in SD doing that though.
#17 Nov 21 2008 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I play the game too, I make no pretenses about that. But I'm not calling those folks fruitcakes/losers/etc, or degrading them for a hobby they enjoy and often make very nice money at, while providing goods/services, entertainment, and/or education for others. I dont go there to dress up, I go there to laugh and support local talent, which is far more worthy of my money than big business.

Cosplay is an entirely different scene, thats more akin to halloween for a weekend to my mind, but without the candy. I'm not gonna slam someone for a hobby i dont particularly enjoy when they obviously do. But then, i don't make a habit of making a complete halfwit of myself insulting random folks and thinking I'm cool for it, either.

Also, seriously, who wakes up at weird times to camp kings anymore? I make it when I can, and don't bother if its outside my time window, and I still get my loot. Only drop I really lack from kings is ebody, and been that way for a while now. Save the weird hour camping for folks in college who're gonna be awake anyways.

Edited, Nov 21st 2008 6:51pm by pogle
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#18SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 21 2008 at 4:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I saw u posted before I got done with brenden thread, so I guess I lied, I have to respond.
#19 Nov 21 2008 at 9:58 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, a shell with folks like BBS and Louis (since they're the only other folks populating the brenden thread)...I'd rather have 5 live-in cosplayers than be stuck with them around again, sorry. I kicked them from my social shell long ago for good reason. Antipathy is mutual, etc.

And whether or not someone is a loser is technically a matter of opinion as well, but I suppose you don't really worry about little technicalities like that when they get in the way of acting like a big bad internet badass and such.
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#20 Nov 22 2008 at 1:20 AM Rating: Decent
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SamuraiKing wrote:

Aww, now did u just edit out the part where you said no one liked me? Because I was just about to go off on that and ask who all these ppl are. Believe it or not, i'm actually very nice, ask the people in the Brenden thread who most all are in my social shell. I'm only an ass if it is deserved.


I lol'd again. I'm pretty sure ANYONE would agree that I didn't deserve criticising from some two-bit forum troll fag for asking for a bit of help (I am still a nub who will likely need help, after all). People could ask those members of your linkshell how nice you are but I'm afraid their biased views would probably lean in your favour anyway. Why the hell does everyone have to start a big flame-fest over such small matters? Hope you feel big and tough for trying to belittle everyone, SamuraiKing. Looks like you're pretty hated from where I'm sat. (BTW, I can't be wrong with that last statement because I hate you, which technically means you're more than 'pretty hated'. Post one of your lame ass little comebacks and hope it helps you to claim back some of your e-peens length or do the sensible thing and just STFU).
#21 Nov 22 2008 at 8:09 AM Rating: Good
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I wouldnt actually worry about him, I've not seen him in the game for ages (not saying he doesnt play, just saying I never seem to run into him), and its of course rather easy to ignore people in the forums here if you want. Main reason i spoke up was a couple of lousy days at work and feeling the need to vent, normally I ignore him here too, since he's not worth the time in general.

Edited, Nov 22nd 2008 11:10am by pogle
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#22SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 22 2008 at 11:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Who is really trying to defend their epeen here, the guy who flames for fun or the guy who takes such offense to opinions over the internet? My point wasn't ask bbs or louis ect. and that their word was law, they we're just a quick example and easy to access. Quite frankly I don't care what anyone thinks about me, and I will tell anyone off, I was just simply pointing out i'm not generally a dick, but I did feel like flaming you. If you ask a stupid question you get a stupid response, it's just that simple.
#23 Nov 22 2008 at 8:48 PM Rating: Decent
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1. Pogle is a tool. This is a fact everyone should know, but doesn't. It's like the Euler's (spelling), unproven theorem. There is a proof for it, but it took 300 pages.

2. Norellicus is a tool. This is based on symmetry and the fact that Norellicus and Pogle are the same person.

3. Alla is good for flaming. Duh.

4. I blow glass. Not amazing, and I haven't worked at it since college, but I sure made an ass-load of ornaments. I also do metal working, but not the wrought-iron stuff Pogle has a fetish for.

5. Kings are dumb and I still need a tongue and an egg.

6. Gonna put on 5 pounds staying with the in-laws this week. woot. Lost 20 lbs prior, so this will give me an easy head start on the new-year's resolution.

7. Might get a job in North Carolina. /wave <pogle>. Don't worry, plenty of interviews still rolling, don't know where I'll pick.


Edit: Who cares about rennaisance fairs?


Edited, Nov 22nd 2008 11:49pm by Bigbangshot
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#24SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 22 2008 at 11:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol people actually still use the rating system on alla? And they actually tried(succeeded apparently) in sub-defaulting my posts.
#25 Nov 23 2008 at 7:24 AM Rating: Good
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Nope, no Fable 2. I bought Fable used a while ago, but after watching someone play it I'll never touch it. Game mechanics look annoying as anything. Don't know squat about Fable 2, but I'm sure its more of the same.

Besides, who has time for that when there's Gears2 and Fallout3?
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#26 Nov 23 2008 at 3:40 PM Rating: Default
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First-person shooters give me motion sickness. Why are we posting outside of our usual location?
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#27SamuraiKing, Posted: Nov 23 2008 at 11:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A Challenger Appears!
#28 Nov 24 2008 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow, derail often?

To OP - I'm sorry your return has met such an unfortunate collision of insults and feigned intellectual exchange. Please be patient with the game and realize that there is such a massive amount of information to learn it will most certainly take some time to digest.

Filter out the helpful ideas here (selling animal meat, hides, completing missions) and apply that to your current situation in the game. Eventually you will come to figure out what makes /you/ gil. This game is all about the journey, so don't worry too much about the destination. Enjoy your time, and if you ever need any help maybe you should avoid this forum, it's become less of a helpful tool and more of a social network to vent pent-up aggression. Feel free to send me a /tell in-game if you ever get really stuck - or check out the wiki community. Often your questions have already been answered in various forms in other places - just need to look ^^.

When I have a direct question about the game, I always go here first: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page It's simple to navigate and has a lot of helpful advice and information.

Good luck, and don't get discouraged ^^

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Edited, Nov 24th 2008 11:32am by olaurelindorenan
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