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#1 Feb 04 2008 at 2:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Thread title says it: WHM's/RDM's who are to busy meleeing to raise anyone, PLD's who insist on soloing mobs with 20+ dead people around the fort, ect ect.

Your time has come. I'm not posting names/screenshots yet, but god help me i'll start if i get another pld/pld/whm combo meleeing RIGHT ON TOP OF ME.
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#2 Feb 04 2008 at 3:14 AM Rating: Good
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No kidding, but equal blame goes to SE for this, too. They were BEGGING for crap like this to happen when they decided with Besieged--and subsequently with Campaign battle--that you'd get 10x more exp for providing useless melee than you would for curing/raising. Case in point, here: I wandered into the end of last night's Mamool Besieged and pulled out my G.Axe for about 40 seconds (missing with every swing, btw!) and ended up with ~400 exp; doubt I'd have gotten 100 if I'd spent as much time curing.

Add to this the fact that non-campaign mobs can aggro people in campaign battle and you're just asking for a big ol' pile of crap. In Garlaige [S] if you take aggro from a Yagudo Prior or Yagudo Abbot while you're fighting the Fortification you're F'ed because they're not campaign mobs so you don't get points for attacking them. You can beg for help and you'll be ignored because the battles can be so short that noone wants to waste precious seconds attacking a mob that won't give them exp.

So hate the idiots, sure... but make sure you equally distribute your bile to SE who created the idiotic system that gives rise to said idiots.
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#3 Feb 04 2008 at 3:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually, its been proven that attacking any mob/ taking damage period contributes towards your final xp total. I agree that people not helping others who've gotten aggro during campaign are lame tho, so they're on the future list too.
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#4 Feb 04 2008 at 10:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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I suppose it depends on the group you do campaign with. I do Rolanberry a lot and if I get aggro from a goobue and cfh it, there's usually a dozen people or so that run over and help out...even if the campaign mobs are there. As far as the raise thing goes though...yeah. People suck sometimes. Maybe if SE gave a specific reward just for raising people...
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#5 Feb 04 2008 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, it could be worse dude. You could have to deal with what I've been dealing with in WoW.



Wiping in a party and only the Druid survives. Their raise is on a 30 minute cooldown, and they raise someone other than the Priest. (aka me.) That's always worth a good *bangheadondesk*
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#6 Feb 04 2008 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no problem raising/curing people, but when a mage spends equal time as other jobs, yet receive crap for exp, its no wonder they are meleeing, even if you only hit for 1...
#8 Feb 04 2008 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
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Sweet, you killed a NIN trying to get some xp. I'm impressed.

Stupid people include those thfs who use hide becase they're afraid of tp moves.

Honestly, I can tank 1 mob solo as dnc/whm 65. Do us all a favor and tank a mob if you can. It makes the melee leeches spread out more. And who is worried about mob tp moves that don't come from bosses? I only do rolanberry generally, but if it isn't named softstep or whatever that graviga devastator is, I'm not picky about what I kill. And this is on pathetic 65 dnc no less.

I do sub whm so I can cure, but that's mostly because I can't find a better sub, since I normally don't take much damage unless I am lucky enough to get one solo to tank. Normally, the melees pull hate and I can't cure them with waltz.

I am totally down with the raise people idea. I raise whenever I can. It's courtesy for sure, but why not raise people?
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#9 Feb 04 2008 at 10:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh don't mistake me, i'm not bitching about not 'helping' other people. Bite off more than you can chew = you get what you deserve. But WHM's meleeing on dead body's = fail.
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#10 Feb 05 2008 at 12:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't buy into the bite off more than you can chew in this case. There is no risk of xp loss, and the only real way to get busted is 1. you're way too low to be any good anyway (like lvl 50) or 2. you're fighting an NM. The NMs can wreck anyone, so that's kind of moot. The other helpers are the only way people really get xp, and I don't see why anyone capable of holding one wouldn't do so. It helps everyone.

I don't like people pealing the hate off my dnc, but they need xp too, it's not a huge difference.
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#11 Feb 05 2008 at 3:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Apelila wrote:
Long angry rant about people being deuche bags again


I think SE gave us something with campaign that we really shouldn't take for granite: a tool to learn who the useless players are without ever being in danger of loosing xp to their stupidity.

Yes, I'm looking @ you melee WHM that tried to invite me the other night. You know what you did.

Edited, Feb 6th 2008 4:03am by Apelila
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Again, Ape, I say your anger is mostly misdirected... don't blame the idiots because people will ALWAYS be stupid. Blame the system that not only enables but rewards their stupidity. SE really needs to fix the rewards system for Campaign/Besieged exp as far as healing magic goes, even if it means people using /whm to whore exp at low levels... at least they're curing!
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#13 Feb 05 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm fully with Radio on this one. Much like besieged, you should be rewarded for helping the cause as a whole and curing is a necessity.

And Ape, did you have your flag up? Maybe you were asking for it...
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#14 Feb 06 2008 at 3:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, I haven't gone LFG in a long while, if not even non-anon. I had anon off because...oh hell, I don't know why.
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#15 Feb 06 2008 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
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My two cents as someone who went RDM/WHM to Campaign for about two weeks, curing and healing and debuffing mobs like it was a regular exp party...

I quit doing Campaign.

For me, the exp wasn't worth it. I can do just as well solo on BST/WHM with RR1 and I don't have to worry about overpowered NMs, lag, stupid shouts, just standing around waiting for the mobs to show, or any of the other crap that goes with Campaign and Beseiged.

I know I'm in the minority here, but in my opinion WoTG so far = major fail. Maybe they'll improve it in future updates. Until then, this is one RDM/WHM you won't have to worry about melee'ing over your dead body, but I won't be their to raise you either.
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#16 Feb 06 2008 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I usually do campaign solo but today i had a rdm friend join me, and she didnt melee. She just cured me and other ppl and raised. the first fight she was there later so she got around 225, the next one we were both there for(a short one with maybe 6 mobs and softstep) and she got 680, and as thf i got 625 so it seems you do get exp from curing ppl. Granted im sure if you cud deal out ALOT of dmg as a mage u wud get more exp, and I dont have a problem with them meleeing, but from what ive seen they can cure too and still get exp with it, theres really no excuse for them not raising and curing. Yes, I agree with radio and bbs, it's SE fault aswell, but it's not like thier gonna lose more than 20exp from hitting for 2 dmg by raising dead ppl.

A whm was out there DDing one of the times when i was there,(i only do rolanberry) and i saw her standing over me for about 4minutes.. no raise so i sent her a tell. and her response was "0/540something mp", as she kept meleeing. >_>

I like to solo mobs, no wait, I dont drag them way the @#%^ off and make the campaigns last 3hours, I pull one no one is fighting about 5 feet away and if a low level wants to come melee on it, thats fine. This i'm doing as lol71thf/nin since 65. If your gonna die as a 75anything because someone else is meleeing while ur soloing u have to really suck. It's free exp, thier not really gonna effect ur exp hardly at all, so there's no reason to mpk them because u dotn want em touching ur mob. Soon enough u will be leveling another job and when u hit 60 be doing a campaign somewhere, hope u will be soloing them and not leeching cause that would make u a hypocrit.
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#17 Feb 07 2008 at 12:28 AM Rating: Good
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Wow, you Mpked some poor guy cause he was "Leaching" off your mob? Just wow.

Personally I don't mind assisting people if they are in trouble. Play the game for fun and not Omg I need to get (X)EXP/(Y)Hour to get (N)Level by (C)Date and if I Cure/Help that poor guy getting raped in the corner, I will lose 400Exp from campain and that would be counter-productive. Of coarse if you know the guy and don't like him/her, you could let them die . .

Reputation/People > Most everything else.

I can confirm that you do get Exp for curing. I was in CN(s) last night as Rng62/Whm and I got about 500exp just for healing the NPCs after they killed their mobs.


Edited, Feb 7th 2008 3:39am by Slavek
#18 Feb 07 2008 at 6:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Some of you don't seem to understand, a good soloist has complete control over their opponent's TP gain. They know how much they have, and generally when they're likely to use it, and they use this to their advantage to work their Utsusemi timers together.

As soon as you have a second person starts attacking the mob, the soloist loses control.

Nynja may be an ass at times, but I'm with him on this. Running up and messing with his mob is every bit as dangerous as meleeing a mob that a BLM is trying to solo through sleep/gravity/bind kiting and nuking.

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 1:10pm by Norellicus
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Norellicus wrote:
Running up and messing with his mob is every bit as dangerous as meleeing a mob that a BLM is trying to solo through sleep/gravity/bind kiting and nuking.

Never thought of it that way... but if someone did the latter to me, you can rest assured that I'd spend the rest of that campaign battle MPK'ing the holy hell out of that person until they warped or got the message loud and clear that I didn't want them fυcking with my mobs.
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#20 Feb 07 2008 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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You have to really suck or be incredibly anal to think the second guy meleeing matters.

If it's a boss, fine. Nobody pulls softstep to the side anyway.

If you're telling me that ore toss is going to make or break your campaign, you suck. I don't care how you look at it.

If a BLM is grav kiting, you can melee it all you want. Bind kiting is another matter.

Are you guys really that bad at this? Seriously, I've been doing this since 63, and it's not a big deal.

Radio, how the hell do you hope to mpk anything? Are you going to drag a mob/group to the pc and die? Short of the hide trick, I don't see how you hope to do it.
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#21 Feb 07 2008 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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You have to really suck or be incredibly anal to think the second guy meleeing matters.

If it's a boss, fine. Nobody pulls softstep to the side anyway.

If you're telling me that ore toss is going to make or break your campaign, you suck. I don't care how you look at it.

If a BLM is grav kiting, you can melee it all you want. Bind kiting is another matter.

Are you guys really that bad at this? Seriously, I've been doing this since 63, and it's not a big deal.

Radio, how the hell do you hope to mpk anything? Are you going to drag a mob/group to the pc and die? Short of the hide trick, I don't see how you hope to do it.


Get this through your peanut-sized brain if you can: Not everyone has Drain Samba or Stoneskin or direct cures to offset the damage they'd otherwise take between shadows.

A THF/NIN relies on their evasion to make their shadows last as long as necessary, not to save them from the stray blows between the shadows. More TP moves from a high level mob that has the potential to double or triple attack you at any moment on top of having TP moves that can hurt if you're unlucky is NEVER a good thing when you've got no means of survival except your shadows. Those TP moves eat shadows faster, which leaves you at a greater risk of taking a hit that can destroy your rhythm.

I was leveling DNC last night and had no problems with downtime thanks to Drain Samba; the hits the mobs put in couldn't outpace the draining output of the Samba. But the few times a mob lasted long enough to peg me with a Goblin Rush, Big Scissors, or Lamb Chop...it hurt. In some cases, enough that I didn't want to risk continuing without taking a knee and getting my hp back up first.

If you don't have a mage behind you ready to spam cures, TP moves are EVERYTHING. Controlling their flow is paramount to soloing on any job that has to stand toe to toe with the monster, especially when the monster still can dish out some hurt. Period.

If you think otherwise, please go out as a BRD/NIN and tank Charybdis with a WAR/NIN smacking it around alongside you and let me know how it goes.

Edit: Since in your typical fashion you decided to get anal retentive about my gravity point, I edited the original post. Of course gravity kiting wouldn't matter, the mob is awake, DUH. But I should hope one would know better than to mess with someone's sleep-nuking targets, and the same level of control and rhythm applies to any blink soloist that doesn't have the mitigation tools of a PLD or RDM.

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 1:35pm by Norellicus
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Norellicus wrote:
Get this through your peanut-sized brain if you can: Not everyone has Drain Samba or Stoneskin or direct cures to offset the damage they'd otherwise take between shadows.

A THF/NIN relies on their evasion to make their shadows last as long as necessary, not to save them from the stray blows between the shadows.


Really hope ur joking, if u believe that, what bbs said is true, ur retarded. You skipped over my whole post didnt u? a 65thf(no Ni) can solo these, thier easier than EP mobs at 75 with Ni. If tp moves dont effect me in anyway at 65+ I don't see how they effect anyone with Ni, expecially a thf that they cant even hit 25% of the time, u havent played thf HL, u shud get it to 75 then tell me u cant handle these lolmobs with it.

Nynja prides himself in his mpk's of ppl. He just used this thread as an excuse for one of them and to boast about his latest mpk accomplishment. blm grav nuking has nothing whatsoeevr to do with this discussion at all, he was on thf.

Idk why u feel the need to defend him, he was clearly in the wrong, and if anything just shamed himself on his skills, since he cant handle an EP mob with one other person feeding the mob slow tp, as his 75nin that surely has eva merits, and a relic dagger.

P.S. I frequently have dodged the tp moves as 71, so yes, they DO rely on thier evasion for dodging tp from weak level mobs like these. Just cause a mob says impossible to gauge doesnt mean level 95, I guess if u checked Bubbly Bernie u wudnt dare fight him for fear of his HL abilitys that might kill u?

edit: f*cking typos

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 12:41pm by SamuraiKing
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#23 Feb 07 2008 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Why are we comparing this to regular fights? Campaign is something everyone gets involved in, if you want to solo a mob go battle a T-IT mobs. I've seen some of the people at Rolenberry fighting, I've done some soloing, but not all the way because people will come by and kill,it's part of campaign.
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Nore, buddy, you're right about solo in general, but we're talking about campaign here. There's a difference, and it's substantial. Think before you come in with arguments that just don't work.

Nynja already suggested subbing DNC or 2 boxing. If you're coming to campaign mnk/nin and burning tools for no good reason, that's dumb. MNK/DNC is a perfectly self-sufficient solo job for campaign.

Drain samba is NOT enough to keep you alive. Keep levelling, you'll figure it out.

I don't think there is any risk of double or triple attack from quadavs. They're all plds or whm I think. It's so easy. I've been doing this, and I don't think you have. Even you could manage these mobs.

Your Charybdis comment proves that you are retarded. Please, try campaign, do it for me. Go to rolanberry fields and solo some mobs. Then come back and apologize for having no frame of reference. WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT HARD MOBS. We're talking about gimp little turtles that throw a rock or do a def buff for tp moves. Are you really worried about that?

Admit it, you're wrong.

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Edited, Feb 7th 2008 1:49pm by Bigbangshot
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#25 Feb 07 2008 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Why am I not surprised? BBS' crew missing the point as usual.

My point is, don't fuck with a soloer without their permission. It screws up their rhythm.

No doubt Nynja got some fun out of mpking the idiot NIN who was tailing on his mobs; doesn't make my point less valid, that if you screw around with people trying to solo, you're just asking to catch their ire.

Oh, and learn what analogous examples are plzkthxbai.

PS: Nynja was talking about Orcs. Try harder.

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 1:55pm by Norellicus
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Analagous, really, it's not our vocabulary that's bad. It's your awful, stupid, pointless, baseless, and misrepresentative examples that are bad. See if you can't figure out what a synonym is.

We didn't miss the point. And like the other poster said. Campaign isn't for solo. Otherwise you couldn't attack the purple mobs. You have failed over and over in this thread, go back to trolling. Or figure out what you're talking about.

Pogle, why don't you stand up for your side-kick here. Let's make this about who likes who instead of about how PATHETIC you have to be to worry about someone feeding a mob tp on a normal monster in campaign.
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lol, I'm too lazy to post it but i have this awesome drawing of a troll(under a bridge of coarse, where else?), I'm now calling it Norellicus.

Your missing the point Nore not us, I have some extra food so I don't mind feeding thr trolls. is besieged a solo deal? Cause thats exactly what this is, just on a smaller scale, and much faster. This is ment for multiple ppl to play in, with eachother, not solo. That right there makes our point valid, and you wrong.(Dionel said it first)

And if i'm in the BBS' crew, than your cleary in the Nynja mpk crew.
"MNK 75/BLM 70/NIN 47/SAM 33" I don't see dnc there at 37+.. nor do I see thf there at 75... maybe i'm blind? I'm nto speaking on the dnc part cause mines 8, but I know about thf eva on these mobs, orcs and quadavs, thier EP level to a 75 at most. sh*t I can solo an EP on thf as /12smn, the point is, either he sucks and came here to whine, or he is just an ass that wanted to tell ppl about his mpk(simply mpking just isnt good enough for him) i'm gonna go with both personally. Either way he's in the wrong, and u are for defending him, expecially without any experience to back up what your saying.
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#28 Feb 07 2008 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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Any of my talk about campaign would be from BLM perspective, since thats the only job I do it with thus far, for buffer. And most of that is standing in garlaige beating up an innocent rock. The couple times I've tried doing something crazy like soloing a mob on BLM, someone has inevitably screwed it up and I've gotten killed and never gotten raised, so very little point in trying that.

As for solo in general, myself and anyone else with skill knows what soloing is, and how to do it. I see no need to defend or attack someone over it. Far easier to just go, you know, solo stuff, rather than listen to how I'm an idiot because of my tried and true methods; actions can speak for themselves. I've no desire to bandy words with a 'soloer' of yours or Samking's caliber, I've got more important stuff to do (read, anything and everything).

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If a BLM is grav kiting, you can melee it all you want


Feeding a gravitied mob TP is still a bad thing, as everyone should know: gravity isnt constant in duration, and having a mob ready to unload a TP move in your face when you're trying to recast it kind of sucks. Aerns are the worst at that, someone feeds them some TP, they smack you once to break stoneskin and get that last bit, and wham! your pitiful BLM hp has been destroyed. BLM is probably the easiest solo job to control TP on otherwise, and also the easiest to screw it up for by interfering. But I'd only expect someone who respects his fellow player to know/care about that.
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#29 Feb 07 2008 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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lol... I thought you were too busy 'soloing' to label it. LAME. If you didn't read, we pretty much summed up the way campaign works for melee jobs. I don't know about BLM, not my thing, but I wasn't talking about that.

I can, however, talk about gravity kiting. I do it on DNC any time I aggro three mobs when I mean to get 1. Qudavs are not aerns, your fear of them is understandable. Since they will randomly kill you anyway from time to time.

Looks like you, Ape, SK, and I are on the same page. Not raising people sucks.

Still if there are more than 3 people in the zone, you should be able to follow the pack on BLM and avoid death just like in an xp pt. Over time, that war/nin is pumping out way way more damage than you anyhow, shouldn't be an issue to nuke > grav > run away and rest mp. But then if you're the only 75 in a grip of 64s... wait... wtf... Why aren't you killing flans?

lol wrote:
But I'd only expect someone who respects his fellow player to know/care about that.
So you're good with Nore's MPK ideals? Or with the touchy-feely "I'm oh so considerate" Pogle take.

Two-faced trash.
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#31 Feb 07 2008 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Over time, that war/nin is pumping out way way more damage than you anyhow

Hahaha, "over time." BLM solo doesn't work "over time." That's what we in the BLM business refer to as "suicide." If you can't drop a mob solo'ing with 4 or fewer nukes, you better fυcking zone. And that 4th had better be Drain, so let's call it 3 1/2 nukes.

I dare any job, sans 2hr, two outdamage a BLM in the time it takes to cast 3 1/2 nukes. Good frigging luck. :P
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#32 Feb 07 2008 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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If i see a slept mob I don't touch it. The good blms will sleepga them and then help kill one with alot of ppl on it. If I decide to solo one ill SA one of the slept ones so i pull hate and it doesnt rape the blm. I wouldn't advise soloing on blm in any campaign that has anyone but you in it, you have multiple jobs u can switch to besides it. But yes, arens are f*cking god awful, i wud make maybe 3k exp, then die and lose 2k exp, then repeat, trying to solo for organs, granted im galka and my only prob was resists and MP for sure, if I didn't resist a taru wud be able to solo them alot easier.

Just finished reading ur damn post.

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I've no desire to bandy words with a 'soloer' of yours or Samking's caliber


I can only assume your attacking my skills, because compliments are not for the internet. Subtle yet effect blows huh? Didn't someone let you into SD? That would explain your smug, pissy attitude towards others outside of SD, who's Richards you do not suck. I'm not gonna be liek u and comment on ur skills, since i've never seen you but i will tell u ive never seen someone with an attitude of that "caliber" be any good at the jobs they claim to be.

Edit: it turned "D ick" into Richards. :( Damn word filters.

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 2:01pm by SamuraiKing
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#33 Feb 07 2008 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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pogle totally pushes buttons on his keyboard better than you, SK. Admit it, you're just jealous.
#34 Feb 07 2008 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Well the subtle blows and smug attitude u can tell in an oevrall post is much more effective than just a flame.
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#35 Feb 07 2008 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Meh, they're elitist in their own way.

I'll kiss a little back side here. The only players I really noticed being amazing for a while were NINs. Sorry to say, all the other jobs were mostly mediocre. Before that, SK renewed my faith in the possibility of decent RDMs existing. Your play in the CN was flawless. /kudos. You didn't have haste yet, so the job isn't fully complete, but I'll just assume you could handle it.

These guys are mostly ego strokes. They ramble on about pointless crap trying to think they have a point. Problem is easy mob is easy. They are far far above ever being wrong, so don't expect much in that respect.

They also like to talk down on other people's skill for reasons I don't get. We clearly explained why mpk isn't needed and why tp is largely irrelevant. All the while acknowledging the truth in their general understanding of solo. My thoughts on these two are the same as ever. Low-class and small-minded. Nothing new here, move along.

Radio, I was talking about the group mentality. If you want to toss thunder 4, just wait for rampage to do it. It shouldn't be an issue. The point being you change the play style to fit the situation. Just like you wouldn't open a traditional xp party with a ga3, you don't do it in campaign unless you love to kite.

I think the whole of campaign is still disappointing like Naat said. It is however, free xp as you have your flag up, and you can trade points for gear that isn't uselss (y halo thur fourth guantlets). Might as well...
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#36 Feb 07 2008 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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lol rdm is alot of work, i'm glad u thought i did good on it, i spent alot on it only to decide to do another job lol. :(

Back on topic:

I'm waiting for the next patch with the new JA's in it, hopefully they will adjust campaign, but honestly like i said my rdm friend actually fro more exp than me from only curing ppl and debuffing mobs. So it's not like the whms will get mroe exp from meleeing and not curing/raising. Now, if they melee and then cure and raise too.(which is perfectly fine in my eyes) they wud get alot more exp. Even using cure IV on whoever's tanking or raising someone every now and then the DDs will keep hate off them and they don't need that mp unless thier fighting softstep or a mob boss with AoE.

I'm not gonna keep ranting on the campaign stuff cause it's not like they will come here and say "omg what have i done?!" but I will end it with, if u dont cure and raise, everyone will most likely die and then ur next lol...
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#37 Feb 07 2008 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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I also generally avoid Campaign unless it involves me swinging axes or great axes at a non-moving non-responding walls in a basement 20 years in the past. Fighting BST NMs whose pets can one-shot hero NPCs doesn't really seem to be my cup o' tea, so--in the words of Alice in Chains--I stay away.
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#38 Feb 07 2008 at 1:09 PM Rating: Good
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Didn't someone let you into SD? That would explain your smug, pissy attitude towards others outside of SD, who's Richards you do not suck.


Ah, the ever so popular "you're in X-LS so you're an elitist/sexual deviant/babykiller" line. Thats pretty much all I need to see to know the full extent of someone's 'skills'. They can be Avesta reborn in an NA body, but if they instantly assume everyone in a group is identical simply because they're in that group ... well, suffice it to say it doesnt speak well of them. Not that I needed confirmation of my memories of seeing you play in the past. As anyone who's played Halo on XBL can tell you, even morons can be good at games (and quite frequently are). Its only recently they get to be so vocal about it.

I'm quite content being in SD for most of my endgame events, and I'm also happy and proud to have friends in Emerald and Osiris. I even had a couple friends in PSA who sadly quit the game. I dislike people for who they are and how they behave, not for what LS they're in.

Oh, and I've had this attitude my whole adult life, pretty much; a year in SD has had very little effect on me in general, except to get me to play console games more between windows, and to make me hate sky (I'm looking at you Kirin) even more than I thought possible. If I'm not being paid to be nice to someone, they wont be treated nicely unless they earn it; my attitude will be neutral at best until they prove things one way or another. And with that said, until you can prove you can write a post I can read without developing a headache, I'm done with you. Better things to do, etc.
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#39 Feb 07 2008 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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My last post on this cluster@#%^ since it's given me the entertainment necessary to push through the last 3 hours of my otherwise dull workday:

Bigbangshot wrote:
So you're good with Nore's MPK ideals?


I'd like to point out that a) Nowhere did I condone MPK, only the justification for being pissed at other people @#%^ing with your mob, and b) Radio was just as quick to mention that he'd gladly MPK someone for screwing up his magely solo efforts, yet has received not so much as an idle remark about it, and the post remains at the Excellent level (through none of my own doing, I may add).

mkay bye~

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 4:28pm by Norellicus
#40 Feb 07 2008 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I based my summary off your post first, the fact that everyone I've met from SD, is generally 90% of the time a douche is just my other reason. Out of the people in SD, I may have met 3 that's nice and that itself is questionable. It could just be me that sees it, though I know people that agree with me. It has nothing to do with u being in SD really, but the fact you had a pissy attitude in the first post, added to the irony of u being in SD as mostly everyone I've seen it it has the same.

Maybe I just don't remember you being pissy in DMA, not that you couldn't have been as well, but I thought I remembered a better attitude. Not to keep going and be rude, but honestly it doesn't really matter if u read my post or not, we ended up off topic.

I would like to know where you've seen my "skills" though, I haven't been in DMA for at least 2 years lol, and I've never seen you at camp when I was tanking HNMs either.(don't think we claimed when i was there tanking when u were also there) But a ls is like living with ppl, after a while u pick up their mannerisms and part of their attitudes, it's just natural. You of coarse will adopt some of them but won't realize that you have changed.(you in general not u personally.)
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#41 Feb 07 2008 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Why isn't Radio getting nuked? He didn't post how he hoped to MPK.... Maybe a warp strategy? I just don't see it.

We have been over the idea of soloing. Yes, you shouldn't mess with someone soloing something beastly. You'll notice me never moving anywhere near softstep, though I peg him (read: whiff) with a chakram from time to time. The other monsters can't really be soloed in the classical sense. It doesn't require any skill and you can't prevent other people from joining in, unless you're a dirty 75 thf out to MPK for no good reason. Which is stupid, but some people seem to agree with, making those people also stupid.

Summary: Norellicus is stupid.

P.S. Please come back with a "NO U" comment. I have beaten this dead horse about how simple campaign is enough, but the stick isn't broken yet.

EDIT: SK, lol, what did you pick up from Nynja?

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 4:39pm by Bigbangshot
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#42 Feb 07 2008 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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So I went to try to skill up GA in campaign last night. Even though I hate campaign for the reasons outlined above, I didn't feel like I had a lot of options as a 60WAR with no 75 job that can equip a GA.

And yes, I know you have to skip getting tags in order to get skillups. God, you would think everyone in my LS thought I was a five-year-old as many times as I heard that...

Anyway, three campaign battles, more than an hour, and I got from 156 to 159 :(

I can't think of any other reasons to go to the past. Can I get my $30 back? At least I got ten more inventory spots out of the expansion pack; maybe that's worth $30

Don't take that as an RMT comment; I'd never pay $30 for ten inventory spots...
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#43 Feb 07 2008 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Bigbangshot wrote:
Summary: Norellicus is stupid.


ur mom




I know I said that was my last post, but I couldn't resist; it's good for the lulz.
#44 Feb 07 2008 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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The update notes thus far indicate an utterly useless addition. Bet you're excited.
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#45 Feb 07 2008 at 2:35 PM Rating: Good
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So far there was no real point in the expansion, maybe just to see some areas b4 they got corrodded and run down? But liek all expansiosn they start off slow, look at ToAU, it may have had exp spots but as far as mission items u got sh*t. Later on they updated it and now with more missions, u can get the newer rings. I expect something shiny, prolly earrings from this one, or maybe soemthing different besides the usual ring or earring, like a belt back or neck addition. Personally I think salvage is unbearabley retarded, the rewards good, but the whole thing in general is retarded and basicly a form of dynamis. But some people like it, like i like campaign to each his own naat, but i see what ur saying.

P.S. 3 levels on gaxe in 1hour = great. (2H weapons are sh*t to skill, if you can help it u shud always keep em capped in pts <_<)
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#46 Feb 08 2008 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I tried again one last time. Got another 3 levels before falling asleep at the controller between campaign battles.

When I levelled WAR to 60, no one used GA. This was before the 2H buff so by 48 every war was dw axes. I'd probably have gotten kicked if I brought out a GA in exp party, and I've never been too good at soloing EM mobs to keep skills capped.

So now I'm stuck with a 164 GA skill and there's no way I can show up to a lvl 60 party without RR; someone is bound to notice.

As for Campaign versus regular, I went to Kuftal a few nights ago when my skill was 140 and got from 140 to 152 in less than two hours while trying to pop Amemet with a THF from my ls. I really need to talk him into doing that again; or find a level 75 skill up party that will let me join.
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#47 Feb 08 2008 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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The key to Great Axe skillup is Shield Break. Shield Break cures cancer; true story.
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#48 Feb 08 2008 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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Heh, funny to think how a gripe could stretch oh so far.

I'm a whore during campaign on RDM, I'll admit that. I show up in ghetto melee gear, start poking at mobs someone is trying to solo, and I don't cure a goddamn person outside my own party. Why?
Because I don't need to take guff from a bunch of people who have NOTHING TO LOSE in a battle. Seriously. You died on THF/NIN? Darn. Guess you'll have to get a raise, when I'm good and goddamn ready to give it, and start fighting again for more points than I could get if I'd kept spam curing you to keep you alive. Don't like it, go bitch to Alla- OH WAIT.





Edited, Feb 8th 2008 9:19am by BelkiratheTaru
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#49 Feb 08 2008 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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Why do ppl eep skipping over my first 1-2 posts... u get exp from curing, rdm friend got more exp on her rdm curing and not meleeing at all than i did on my thf meleeing... Cures on ppl in campaign give points, idk why u think it doesnt. I'm not sure about the curing npc's sh*t, she wasnt doin that, she was curing the players. Raise might give exp tho i doubt it, but why be greedy and not sacrifice 20-30 exp to cast raise on someone so they can get thier exp too?

It's not bitching, i dont really give a sh*t if u wanna be a greedy little f*ck lol, but don't come here and say ur anything more than that if you wont raise or cure. I'm not saying sit there and spam cure everyone, infact @#%^ the cures, i always go to a pixie, but even if its just one person that u raise, atleast do one. I've seen plds raise mid fights because thier not greedy, but a rdm with refresh wont even take the time to cast a raise? No one's making you but if your comming here bitching about us bitching ur just a hypocrit doin the same thing Belkira, that must be a Tarutaru trait.
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#50 Feb 08 2008 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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Samurai, this is the part where I quote something you said and say "This isn't what I meant, if you read it more closely" etc etc.

I'll pass the post by post arguement and just say this instead- I wasn't talking to you. I was addressing Apelila in a somewhat joking manner. Also, you sure as hell can get points while curing.. just not anything worth noting when all you do is spend the battle curing. I understand where Ape's coming from- it's annoying to spend half a battle face down while someone who you can blatantly tell can raise you fights a losing battle over your corpse. My point? Since you aren't in a party with these people, since they won't get much more than some pity exp for spending a battle curing, and since you didn't lose any exp for dying anyway- you may as well not be angry or surprised by how things work out. I would say gauge the amount of times you've had to homepoint mid-campaign because there was flat out no raise for you versus the times you actually did get a raise.

Also, why you got to be hatin' on Tarus? Racist..
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#51 Feb 08 2008 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I've never not gotten a raise. I have waited a looooooong time for a pixie though.
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