Gilsellers can play the game like anyone else until they are found out. I don't really know how that discredits what I said.
They got clean claims and kills. Call them botters and gilsellers if you like, but it doesn't change anything. Having a small shell and getting big claims deserves a bit of praise. I wasn't there, and I have had nothing to do with Bali's shell. I'm not really into camping things after sitting at Adamantoise for freaking years.
You, of all people, should take notice, Nore. These guys could be a very easy ticket to a black belt. After seeing Inbar get his, I realize there is only one factor that decides if you get it or not, and that's patience. Inbar had a lot of charisma and friends helping him too, but he could have waited out people not wanting the items at the rate he held out. I will probably never have a belt, but I don't think it would be all that hard if I liked camping stuff. Especially since Bali is pretty close to being able to bring down a Fafnir, and that isn't all that far from taking a HQ (not that I would care to fight for a claim, ewww).
I also am starting to think that points systems are less relevant than everyone makes out. Having regular friends that make camps is MUCH more important than distributing drops perfectly. Bali is very regular, which gives him a big head start in these kinds of events. Unlike me with the demanding wife, job, and lack of focus, he has a chance. Perhaps I'll ride his coattails someday. The thing is, I can still have a brutal earring, toreador's ring, boxer's mantle, swift belt, and rajas ring while needing only a regular pt. I have a pt, but not an alliance, the CoP missions are more fun, the story is better, the items are sweeter and ex, and all this without camping a damn thing. There is some farming and whatnot, but no biggie.
I don't see what the big deal about discreditting this shell is... So what if you don't like his leadership style or points system? Fact is, it opens a lot of doors for fun things to do. Why not wish him well and offer to join or go on your merry way? I never really did understand the point of slighting someone without any vested interest... (If you wonder my interest, I like Bali, and wish him well, that's all)
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