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#1 Feb 18 2009 at 5:02 AM Rating: Good
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Hi good people!

i was wondering if there where any HNMLS's out there selling the required items for Black Belt?

Please give me a holla with prices etc if there are any out there willing to provide :)

Best of wishes to ya'll!
#2 Feb 18 2009 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
Just stand by at any of the king's spawns during the window. I know a lot of HNMLS's have BB items for their members, even the one's that don't need them. They'd probably sell to you if your price is right. That's how I ended up getting one of mine.
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#3 Feb 18 2009 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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I've been looking for groups for a while. Here are your options:

Censhura - 2 mil per piece



There you go. They bot claim every **** time. Hope you got 6 mil laying around.
#4 Feb 18 2009 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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Chocoblo wrote:
I've been looking for groups for a while. Here are your options:

Censhura - 2 mil per piece



There you go. They bot claim every **** time. Hope you got 6 mil laying around.
Sad, but in my research and speaking with several people in the shell this is accurate. Further, they would rather drop them then sell them for less than 2mil a piece. Horribly inflated in today's economy imo.
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#5 Feb 18 2009 at 11:20 AM Rating: Good
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There's a "yeah, but you have to rationalize that $4,000 bot somehow, right?" post coming up, I can feel it.
#6 Feb 18 2009 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
Yeah, but you have to rationalize that $4,000 bot somehow, right?
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#7 Feb 18 2009 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
I remember the days of the NQ's Behemoth and Adamantoise not being very heavily camped, especially the day after a KB or Aspi spawn. The NQ's can still drop, but the rate is pretty low. Having said that, I did get my tongue on a NQ Behe that Stel sold to me back in the day. I don't know if this is still the case for NQ's because I hate kings with a serious passion.
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#8 Feb 18 2009 at 12:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah it's still the case. The problem is that Stel would sell you an item for 500k, not 2 mil (which is just freaking absurd). The economy is steadily deflating and Censhura is steadily increasing their price.

And as was mentioned before, they would rather let it drop into oblivion then sell it to you for 500k. **** + Bots = Winning combination
#9 Feb 18 2009 at 10:10 PM Rating: Good
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I got my items from a combination of Demo and Stellvia.

Really, the best advice I can offer is to make connections with the people in HNMLSs. Don't go out of your way and look stupid doing it, but if you merit with them or something, make an impression.

Got 2/3 items for free that way, and a bunch of awesome friends.
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I went 2/3 from ksnm99 and got the third trio'ing adamantoise when people didn't show up for adamantoise because they thought an update was going to occur but ended up getting postponed 24 hours.
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#11 Feb 19 2009 at 3:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for all the replies guys :)

I must agree that 2 mill is insane, and it's never gonna happen that i buy one item for that. its better they drop it, and be short the 1.5 mill they would have gotten from me for all three. i might be persuaded to buy the beard for more gils.

its wierd though the mind behind these transactions. Instead of the possibillity to earn 500k, they drop it and don't make **** Which in reality means that they practically loose more than they earn.

but thats fine with me, this "syndrome" is very often a reason why a merchant of any kind would go bankrupt in real life. Unfortunately this cant happen in-game, but if everyone started cheating and using bots, at least they wouldnt have as much profit.

I hope they get banned for botting soon, i for one will report as soon as i see it.
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another option then buying from King spawn locations is to ask around to see if there are any groups going to do ks99 runs. you can offer drops instead of gil. not sure whos out there doing them but some where on here is thread about 99 runs. i know the drop rate sux but i trioed Turtle with me <mnk>,thf,whm. was extremely easy fun fight. of course theres that claiming thingy but you never know.
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#13 Feb 19 2009 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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most hnm shells do ksnm99 runs, but they might charge a fee unless you are in that shell.
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#14 Feb 19 2009 at 7:49 AM Rating: Good
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Yes i believe i will try the KS99 way. Hopefully someone offer a price for the items that are reasonable (iow not like Chenshura, or is it Cheatshura?) :)

I found this post very comical XD
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Yeah, but you have to rationalize that $4,000 bot somehow, right?


Others must pay so that the person cheating will profit from it?
haha. Botting destroys this game, how can any gamers support that lol.

PS! i know this was a joke.
#15assaultsquall, Posted: Feb 21 2009 at 10:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) pretty simple reason why price stays at 2 mil.. if you get yours for less, then why shouldn t the next person? BTW people can and do pay much more than 2 mil per item, so if you get yours for 2 mil you should be satisfied...
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Rafage wrote:
Yes i believe i will try the KS99 way. Hopefully someone offer a price for the items that are reasonable (iow not like Chenshura, or is it Cheatshura?) :)

I found this post very comical XD
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Yeah, but you have to rationalize that $4,000 bot somehow, right?


Others must pay so that the person cheating will profit from it?
haha. Botting destroys this game, how can any gamers support that lol.

PS! i know this was a joke.
I wish it was a joke, but they do have a 4000$ bot, and this is probably one of their ways of rationalizing it Smiley: lol
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#17 Feb 21 2009 at 4:17 PM Rating: Good
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pretty simple reason why price stays at 2 mil.. if you get yours for less, then why shouldn t the next person? BTW people can and do pay much more than 2 mil per item, so if you get yours for 2 mil you should be satisfied...


Supply and demand.



That said, it's still **** to most of the people who actually deserve the belt.
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I was really hoping that she'd start leveling DNC. Then she could go to parties as WHM/DNC and have 2 ways to not cure.
#18ZhiGaruda, Posted: Feb 22 2009 at 2:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just adding this in - we've never actually allowed a BB item to hit the ground. My level 1 mule actually has 2/3 items, so, all is well.
#19 Feb 22 2009 at 12:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, well that changes everything.

Carry on then, good sir.
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I had no idea we had 50 monks running around with 20 mil on our server. I suppose we are the Switzerland of FFXI.
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Nah, we import them from other servers.
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#22 Feb 23 2009 at 9:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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We got a buyer for 5mill for Ada Egg a couple nights ago. 3mill beards are the norm. Sorry ;-;


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#23 Feb 23 2009 at 10:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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ZhiGaruda wrote:
We got a buyer for 5mill for Ada Egg a couple nights ago. 3mill beards are the norm. Sorry ;-;
9-15 mil total for BB items sounds made up. At least, I sure as **** hope someone didn't pay this much for them. In the economy as it is now that's horribly overpriced.

I mean "a fool and thier gil are soon parted" and a "they are worth w/e someone is willing to pay" may be true, but damn.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 1:32pm by Bauran
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#24 Feb 23 2009 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just adding this in - we've never actually allowed a BB item to hit the ground. My level 1 mule actually has 2/3 items, so, all is well.


We got a buyer for 5mill for Ada Egg a couple nights ago. 3mill beards are the norm. Sorry ;-;


Level 1 mule? What a waste...Kind of similar to ordering an Extra Large pizza, eating one slice, and then throwing it out when there are other people out in the world starving. Behavior like that is disgusting to be honest. You may get a kick out of it while your lv1 mule has items that others honestly need that you refuse to give up, and the fact that you would brag about it means you must have very low standards...

As far as selling... 3 Mil per piece? Greedy a bit much? Seems Greed before Need still prevails on the HNM scene.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2009 11:03am by ImmortalAlchemist
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Tummie summed it up pretty eloquently.
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I like this "lvl1 mule" and "ground" juxtaposition. As if the fact that lvl1 mules are getting the items instead of being dropped should suddenly make us all wipe the sweat from our brows with relief.
#27ZhiGaruda, Posted: Feb 23 2009 at 12:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually, our general price is 1.5-2M per piece. What happens, is, 2, 3 even 4 MNKs will show up at the camp. None of them want to leave with out. And so I invite all of them and we have an "auction" or sort. The highest price so far has been 5 million. Generally once it goes up to around 3 million the others back off and say they will come back "another day", because, as we all know, Aspidochelone will indeed pop again in just a matter of days..
#28 Feb 24 2009 at 4:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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I like this "lvl1 mule" and "ground" juxtaposition. As if the fact that lvl1 mules are getting the items instead of being dropped should suddenly make us all wipe the sweat from our brows with relief.
I might prefer it to hit the ground in this case.

Too bad we cannot dual wield rate downs. At least there is one more person you never have to worry about helping out when you see a /shout.
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#29assaultsquall, Posted: Feb 24 2009 at 9:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) People expect us to sell BB items for cheap.
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People expect us to sell BB items for cheap.

They arent the ones that go sit out there at 3 AM for 3 hours waiting for guaranteed NQ turtle to pop that drops a total of wut.. 50k gil combined. It aint like we walk out there say ok "POP" and then BOOM! -- aspi pops every 4 days first window. The people that are complaining about the prices obviously dont have much experience on the end game scene.

If you truly want BB, 4.5- 6 mil total is NOT that hard to obtain for a level 75 job.
I have extensive experience with end-game. Cen goes out to camp NQ turtle not for the drops, not for BB item, but to keep anyone else from getting comfortable with the idea that camping "might" yield a chance at fighting these NM's. Cen camps NQ to keep others from camping em, that's it.

After enough times of getting out claimed by Cen many people simply give up trying.

I'd also think that 4.5-6 mil is easily obtainable if my LS routinely charged people these prices for BB items. For the average player it isn't easy to amass that sort of gil readily.
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#31ZhiGaruda, Posted: Feb 24 2009 at 10:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you honestly believe this, you need your head checked, honestly.
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The people that are complaining about the prices obviously dont have much experience on the end game scene.


Actually I have experience in endgame and have helped run Oceanids as a co leader for Sky/Sea/Limbus events for close to a year before I quit due to RL obligations. I've camped kings before over the years I've played the game. My issue with what you do is what Baurun stated:

Baurun wrote:
Cen goes out to camp NQ turtle not for the drops, not for BB item, but to keep anyone else from getting comfortable with the idea that camping "might" yield a chance at fighting these NM's. Cen camps NQ to keep others from camping em, that's it.


There is nothing wrong with a LS selling items, but when you have specific LS's openly botting NM's and end up cornering the market to sell items at whatever price they want without competitive prices from other LS's who could get the claim, then yes that is a big deal. This is why I don't involve myself with Ground Kings anymore...people like your group take the fun out of it as most shells know they stand very little chance against the $2500 Bot until SE fixes it.

To the OP, might I suggest that you get some KS together and get your BB items through KSNM if you can. There were people in Oceanids that got their BB items that way. It's "Free" and you can end up putting money in your own pocket instead of in the pocket of others filled with Greed.

Edited, Feb 24th 2009 10:35am by ImmortalAlchemist
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Cen goes out to camp NQ turtle not for the drops, not for BB item, but to keep anyone else from getting comfortable with the idea that camping "might" yield a chance at fighting these NM's. Cen camps NQ to keep others from camping em, that's it.


If you honestly believe this, you need your head checked, honestly.

We camp NQ's to kill them as quickly as possible to - get this - have HQ's pop sooner.

Stop with the paranoia. Not everyone is out to get you.
Pro-Tip: Chance of Aspi pop opens on the forth day after last Aspi death regardless of whether NQ has been killed on the 1st or 2nd day, on the 3rd it has to be killed so Aspi has a chance on the forth.

Meaning Adamantoise can run around for a full 48 hours without you guys killing it. Park someone out there for ToD and let someone else have the NQ a couple days.

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#34 Feb 24 2009 at 1:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Reminds me of the good old days with Demo, etc.
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#35 Feb 24 2009 at 4:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Reminds me of the good old days with Demo, etc.

The only difference is that Demo openly admitted to botting and grief tactics. They were also very proud of themselves for it.




Nevermind. It is the same.
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#36ZhiGaruda, Posted: Feb 24 2009 at 6:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Lol, I've been doing kings a while, I know how the pop system works. 72 hours, blah blah, blah blah. I can't manipulate the time that HQ pops if I'm not there to regulate the time of death. Last week we let it sit up for 8 hours while we did all our other events just to raise it back into our prime time. HQ Day 3 gogo!
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Lol, I've been doing kings a while, I know how the pop system works. 72 hours, blah blah, blah blah. I can't manipulate the time that HQ pops if I'm not there to regulate the time of death. Last week we let it sit up for 8 hours while we did all our other events just to raise it back into our prime time. HQ Day 3 gogo!

You're proud of holding mobs for 8 hours? Fantastic.
#38ZhiGaruda, Posted: Feb 24 2009 at 10:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Where is my post did I say we HELD Adamantoise for 8 hours? We simply logged out all mules / characters in the zone while we did other events. People /sea all sorrowvall and see no one in the zone, they are very unlikely to go see if Adamantoise is just sitting there.
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what about this zhi could i pm you and if the nq is up could i get it without paying 2 mil for the egg and no i don't watch windows for hnms

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Edited, Feb 25th 2009 5:08am by scottyjames
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what about this zhi could i pm you and if the nq is up could i get it without paying 2 mil for the egg and no i don't watch windows for hnms


You'd have a better chance at winning the lottery. I know two people that were after BB and someone in Censhura knew about it. Censhura had no buyers at the time and my friends were notified that the HNM was up and no one was there to buy. Instead of agreeing to my friend's price and letting the item go to him, they told my friend "Our price is 2 mil, take it or leave it".

Now if you have zero buyers, why would you not take an offer? You get money either way, and the item goes to someone that will use it. It's greed, and Tummie pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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ZhiGaruda wrote:
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Cen goes out to camp NQ turtle not for the drops, not for BB item, but to keep anyone else from getting comfortable with the idea that camping "might" yield a chance at fighting these NM's. Cen camps NQ to keep others from camping em, that's it.


If you honestly believe this, you need your head checked, honestly.

We camp NQ's to kill them as quickly as possible to - get this - have HQ's pop sooner.

Stop with the paranoia. Not everyone is out to get you.


I believe it because I was told by Sovelis (before he sold his account) that this is what they were doing, bragging about Censhuras' bot chasing everyone away and how no one can compete with it.

You can't see facial expressions on vent, but you can hear the glee and snickering in someones voice when brag and crow about their "leetness"
#42ZhiGaruda, Posted: Feb 25 2009 at 11:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Lol, this may hold true, should he be some random person. But Scott's an old friend :).
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Chocoblo, you fail at this game, stop trying to bring everyone down with you. All I ever see is you crying.. p.q

Doesn't mean much, coming from the leader of the LS we're laughing at.
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Chocoblo, you fail at this game, stop trying to bring everyone down with you. All I ever see is you crying.. p.q


I don't have the countless hours a day to play that you do, and if that means I fail at a video game, I'm fine with that assessment.

I'd much rather fail at a video game than fail at life. I could use the "go get a job you waste of oxygen", but that's not really the issue at hand. You really have no decency as a human being. So you don't fail at life because of a lack of job or social life. You just fail at life for lack of moral character.
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I don't have the countless hours a day to play that you do, and if that means I fail at a video game, I'm fine with that assessment.

I'd much rather fail at a video game than fail at life. I could use the "go get a job you waste of oxygen", but that's not really the issue at hand. You really have no decency as a human being. So you don't fail at life because of a lack of job or social life. You just fail at life for lack of moral character.

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Adamantoise is easily duo'ed/trio'ed. Just have to watch out for possible links.
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I hope, that when Censhura does eventually get caught it goes down something like this (from Zhi's point of view).

Zhi>> Claimage! Claimage, Zhi, you poor boy. Claimed dry. I'm so sorry.
Zhi>> Here, if you have a claimbot, and I have a claimbot, and I have a ban
Zhi>> hammer. There it is, that's a ban hammer, you see? You watching?. And my
Zhi>> hammer flies acroooooooss the zone, and starts to ban your claimbot...
Zhi>> I... ban... your... claimbot!
>>GMDaniel NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY $4000 BOT!!!!11
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lol I feel dumber for having read that. May God have mercy on your soul.
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Chocoblo wrote:
I don't have the countless hours a day to play that you do, and if that means I fail at a video game, I'm fine with that assessment.

I'd much rather fail at a video game than fail at life. I could use the "go get a job you waste of oxygen", but that's not really the issue at hand. You really have no decency as a human being. So you don't fail at life because of a lack of job or social life. You just fail at life for lack of moral character.

You just less QQ'd more Pew Pew'd him.
#51ZhiGaruda, Posted: Feb 25 2009 at 7:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There is difference between "laughing at" and "crying about", my good sir.
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