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#1052 Mar 14 2018 at 1:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
What's the spread look like right now anyway?

Around 500 votes, less than 1%

However, Pennsylvania uses electronic voting machines that don't have a paper trail to investigate. My understanding is that, short of finding a missing machine or a precinct failing to report, there isn't anything much to "recount" aside from the absentee/provisional ballots.

Edit: Actually, someone elsewhere mentioned that his county used paper ballots so maybe it varies.

Edited, Mar 14th 2018 9:57pm by Jophiel
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#1053 Mar 14 2018 at 6:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Remember when our biggest problem was Stubbs? Now look at this ******** Pompeo is the Secretary of State. Just another day in the **** state.


Isn't Pompeo one of those Christians who believes it's the end times, and his duty is to help bring about the apocalypse?

So that hearing should go swimmingly.

Also, hi Annabella!


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#1054 Mar 14 2018 at 9:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
What's the spread look like right now anyway?

Around 500 votes, less than 1%

However, Pennsylvania uses electronic voting machines that don't have a paper trail to investigate. My understanding is that, short of finding a missing machine or a precinct failing to report, there isn't anything much to "recount" aside from the absentee/provisional ballots.

Edit: Actually, someone elsewhere mentioned that his county used paper ballots so maybe it varies.

Edited, Mar 14th 2018 9:57pm by Jophiel


I live in the district next to the soon to disappear 18. I've had to put up with their painfully terrible attack ads the last few days. These guys make the ads from the presidential race look subtle. It got so bad that I just stopped watching TV until it was over.

Anyway, we use paper ballots in my soon to be new super district (going from a couple of counties to fourteen). I couldn't say what they use next door though.
#1055 Mar 15 2018 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
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Now I want to see some of those ads.
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#1056 Mar 15 2018 at 8:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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The loss of NY-9 didn't happen in a vacuum.
I'm not saying Murphy is the sole reason, just that you could probably assign a lot of the blame on his behavior.

Speaking of, what do you think of Maine's Leslie Gibson's chances of election after calling a school shooting survivor a frothing at the mouth moonrat slash skinhead lesbian?

Edited, Mar 14th 2018 11:31am by lolgaxe



Currently running unopposed and may STILL lose. (Dems are looking for a viable candidate to field against him.)
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Samira wrote:
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The loss of NY-9 didn't happen in a vacuum.
I'm not saying Murphy is the sole reason, just that you could probably assign a lot of the blame on his behavior.

Speaking of, what do you think of Maine's Leslie Gibson's chances of election after calling a school shooting survivor a frothing at the mouth moonrat slash skinhead lesbian?



Currently running unopposed and may STILL lose. (Dems are looking for a viable candidate to field against him.)


To be fair, by strict definition, she is a skinhead. She's bisexual and not strictly *******, so he got that wrong. Um... She (and the other kid they kept putting on the TV) do pretty well fit the bill to be called "moonbats" though. I get being angry about something, but ignorant anger is just plain dumb. And pretty much everything she (and he) said was based on sheer ignorance of the actual issue of gun control. The things she didn't say that were dumb as heck were pure pablum and more or less meaningless. Yeah, members of congress receive donations to their campaigns. Does she really think the NRA are the only, or even remotely close to the largest, donor? Does she really think this means they are "bought and paid for"?

Spoken like a child who doesn't actually understand how such things work. There are many forces in our political landscape. Singling out just one that you don't like, or just out of sheer ignorance, is absurd.
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#1058 Mar 15 2018 at 10:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
To be fair, by strict definition, she is a skinhead.

Ah, only you Smiley: oyvey
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#1059 Mar 15 2018 at 11:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
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To be fair, by strict definition, she is a skinhead.

Ah, only you Smiley: oyvey


Hey. I'm not wrong though. She's absolutely an example of the classic definition of "skinhead", right down to her activist rants. Ever consider that the guy was actually using the term correctly, rather than the gross misappropriation by the media to equate skinhead with "racist"? Why assume an incorrect meaning when there's a correct one that actually fits perfectly? Or do you actually think he meant to say that she's a racist?
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gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
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To be fair, by strict definition, she is a skinhead.

Ah, only you Smiley: oyvey
Ever consider that the guy was actually using the term correctly?
No; because I'm not trying to an apologist for fascism, racism and hate, like you are.



You don't know much, do you?. Bless your heart!
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Last week, I saw a guy with an eyepatch and a gold monocle and pointed him out to Flea as one of the most awesome things I've seen, ever. If I had an eyepatch and a gold monocle, I'd always dress up as Mr. Peanut but with a hook hand and a parrot.
#1061 Mar 16 2018 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
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You don't know much, do you?. Bless your heart!
His new thing seems to be pretending to not understand how derogatives work.

Edited, Mar 16th 2018 8:57am by lolgaxe
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It speaks volumes that Gbaji's first knee-jerk instinct is to protect a Republican by trying to engage in a semantic breakdown of "skinhead" rather than asking "Why is a politician running for office so threatened by a teenage girl's views on gun control that he needs to comment on her hairstyle and sexuality?"

It also speaks volumes that he's blind to his own reaction and comes back a second time with "Well, but ACK-tually, 'skinhead' can refer to..."
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People who have been shot at: "Guns are bad k"
People who have never been shot at: "You're ugly and weird and you don't know anything about guns libtard!!!!"
#1064 Mar 16 2018 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
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"Well, but ACK-tually, 'skinhead' can refer to..."
"ACK-tually, it started off as just meaning 'black' in Latin so it isn't really an insult to use the N word at all!"

Edited, Mar 16th 2018 1:44pm by lolgaxe
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"Well, but ACK-tually, 'skinhead' can refer to..."
"ACK-tually, it started off as just meaning 'black' in Latin so it isn't really an insult to use the N word at all!"

Maybe YOU'RE the REAL racist for thinking it's wrong to call people N----r!
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Ndashdashdashdashr...are you making fun of people with speech impediments?
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Every fdashdashdashing chance I get. Smiley: thumbsup
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Friar Bijou wrote:
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To be fair, by strict definition, she is a skinhead.

Ah, only you Smiley: oyvey
Ever consider that the guy was actually using the term correctly?
No; because I'm not trying to an apologist for fascism, racism and hate, like you are.


Wait? What? That doesn't even make sense.

In what universe is calling someone a skinhead when they have a freaking skinhead haircut make that an example of "fascism, racism, and hate"? Even if we assumed he was using the "racist" definition of skinhead rather than merely referring to her hairstyle, your statement still makes no sense. It assumes that someone calling someone else a racist make them a fascist, racist, hater. So everyone who condemns white nationalism is actually a racist, and a fascist, and a hater? That seems kinda backwards, don't you think?

And it kinda ignores the far more likely explanation that he was just talking about her hairstyle. I'll ask again: Does anyone actually think he was claiming that she was a member of some kind of white nationalist/power organization?

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I know that some people, when they don't have any sort of rational response, tend to resort to name calling. And yes, that applies to the politician as well. I am not at all defending his decision to use said labels. I think it's a dumb thing to do because it allows folks (like you and Joph btw) to frame the entire thing based on the labels used and not the positions being espoused.

My position is that no matter how dumb his comments were, it doesn't make her own comments and positions and statements about gun control magically become intelligent. This is not an either-or scenario. Both of them are dumb. The difference is that his dumbness is based on something he said that has no bearing on his position, while what she said that was dumb was her entire position on the issue. I don't allow the rhetoric to affect my decisions, so I don't really care what he called her.

I find the argument form of "He called her a name, so he must be wrong and she must be right!" to be particularly weak. Surely you agree?

Edited, Mar 16th 2018 8:57pm by gbaji
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Jophiel wrote:
It speaks volumes that Gbaji's first knee-jerk instinct is to protect a Republican by trying to engage in a semantic breakdown of "skinhead" rather than asking "Why is a politician running for office so threatened by a teenage girl's views on gun control that he needs to comment on her hairstyle and sexuality?"


Actually, I was originally just making a joke about it. Hence why I wrote one freaking sentence mentioning it (and one about the whole ******* versus bisexual thing).

The rest of my post was this:

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Um... She (and the other kid they kept putting on the TV) do pretty well fit the bill to be called "moonbats" though. I get being angry about something, but ignorant anger is just plain dumb. And pretty much everything she (and he) said was based on sheer ignorance of the actual issue of gun control. The things she didn't say that were dumb as heck were pure pablum and more or less meaningless. Yeah, members of congress receive donations to their campaigns. Does she really think the NRA are the only, or even remotely close to the largest, donor? Does she really think this means they are "bought and paid for"?

Spoken like a child who doesn't actually understand how such things work. There are many forces in our political landscape. Singling out just one that you don't like, or just out of sheer ignorance, is absurd.


That's me, quite directly, shifting away from a discussion about the labels he used towards her, and to the point of the objection to her statements on the issue itself. What's a bit of projection is that *you* chose to focus on the one thing that I made the least mention of, while completely ignoring what I spent most of my focus on. That was my "first knee-jerk reaction". To ignore the silly comments and labels and look at the meat of the issue.

Might want to aim that mirror at yourself for a moment and take a look.


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It also speaks volumes that he's blind to his own reaction and comes back a second time with "Well, but ACK-tually, 'skinhead' can refer to..."


Again. Just responding to you. What part of "... fits the bill to be called "moonbats" though", made you think I was seriously defending his labeling her as "skinhead" and "*******"? You're the one who chose to obsess over that and ignore the rest. Not me. I was making a point about how her emotion laden arguments were dumb and ignorant and representative of the stupidity that often encapsulates debates about gun control these days. You're the one who keeps wanting to swing this back to a comment about and only about two words one politician used to describe one kid, one time.

Seems kinda pointless to me. Yeah. Let's base our opinions on an issue like gun control based on how we feel about how someone was talked about in a tweet one time. That makes a ton of sense! Oh wait. No. It doesn't.
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gbaji wrote:
In what universe is calling someone a skinhead when they have a freaking skinhead haircut make that an example of "fascism, racism, and hate"?
OURS.

Your knowledge about yet another subject shines through like the sooty filth emanating from Shelob's webbing. Good Job! Smiley: thumbsup

I know you don't understand how we hoo-mans work, so I'll help you out. When your average American hears "skinhead" this:
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is the picture they get in their head. Not a Sex Pistols concert, not English rugby fans, that. Gibson knew full well that using that word would generate hate against the girl. It's why he used it.

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I find the argument form of "He called her a name, so he must be wrong and she must be right!" to be particularly weak. Surely you agree?
Since nobody here has said that but you I'm not sure why you bothered typing that.

Just kidding, I know why you typed it, you tricky devil, you.
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When Britney Spears shaved her head there was a certain amount of concern about her mental state, but I don't recall anyone calling her a skinhead.

Sinead O'Connor and Grace Jones both kept their heads shaved for years. No one ever challenged them as being antisocial for that style choice, although arguably they were both representative of much more counter-cultural mores than Emma Gonzalez is.

But whatever, the dude who disparaged her for her looks and sexuality has now dropped out of the race rather than defend his statements.
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gbaji wrote:
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It speaks volumes that Gbaji's first knee-jerk instinct is to protect a Republican by trying to engage in a semantic breakdown of "skinhead" rather than asking "Why is a politician running for office so threatened by a teenage girl's views on gun control that he needs to comment on her hairstyle and sexuality?"
Actually, I was originally just making a joke about it.

Sure you were. When people make jokes, they don't feel the need to run back and defend why their jokes were actually totally accurate semantic arguments Smiley: laugh

Look, if I was defending someone attacking a girl's hair and sexuality solely because he had the right letter after his name, I guess I would try to make up a lame "It was a joke" justification as well so I get where you're coming from. The difference is that I didn't do that, you did, and it speaks volumes of your character even as you now lay out the "Aren't YOU the real monster?" nonsense.

You said it. Just own it instead of crying about being called out on it.


Edited, Mar 17th 2018 1:55pm by Jophiel
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In other news, people don't like Trump Food.

I personally have little sympathy here. My grandma was on food stamps and was happy to get anything. The chick whines over food being delivered to her. Granted, no choice, but we are not on UBI, so you gots to work to eat your food of choice.

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Look, if I was defending someone attacking a girl's hair and sexuality solely because he had the right letter after his name, I guess I would try to make up a lame "It was a joke" justification as well so I get where you're coming from.
No doubt he'll come around to defend Trayon White, Sr's video about the Jews controlling the weather.
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At least they found a use for all those steaks they couldn't sell.

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In other news, people don't like Trump Food.

I personally have little sympathy here. My grandma was on food stamps and was happy to get anything. The chick whines over food being delivered to her. Granted, no choice, but we are not on UBI, so you gots to work to eat your food of choice.


Is that even Government Cheese? Google says Homestyle is some old-person meal service. Not sure if this is actually EBT stuff. Also not sure if Trumps plan was implemented. I didn't listen to the video, at work so my phone was silenced. Just saw a bunch of Homestyle containers of frozen food and then the person mashing up what was either a frozen bun or a frozen scoop of mashed potatoes...

I remember my Aunt's refrigerator being full of large blocks of cheese and jugs of milk and cupboard with generic labelled "Peanut Butter" and crackers and what not. Something to do with a WIC program I believe (I was a kid at the time, I didn't pay too close attention). I don't recall it being that bad, and she seemed to like it.
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GOP: "We need to send poor people prepackaged food instead of EBT cards because poor people can't make responsible food choices"

Also GOP: "Ketchup and pizza sauce are vegetables, sure why not."
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