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#3102 Jun 26 2017 at 2:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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From the New York Times a couple weeks ago:
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Fox News is “Fair and Balanced” no more.

In the latest sign of change at the cable news network, the “Fair and Balanced” motto that has long been a rallying cry for Fox News fans — and a finger in the eye of critics — is gone. The channel confirmed on Wednesday that slogan and network have parted ways.

“The shift has nothing to do with programming or editorial decisions,” the network said in a statement. Instead, the slogan was dropped in part because of its close association with Roger Ailes, a network founder, former chairman and the originator of the phrase, who was fired in August in a sexual harassment scandal.

Interview questions from yesterday on Fox to President Trump:
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Mr. President, you face resistance on this bill; but, of course, you’ve faced resistance on the entirety of your agenda. Who’s been your biggest opponent? Has it been Democrats resisting? Has it been fake news media? Has it been deep state leaks? What’s -- when you think about it, what holds it up the most?
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How frustrating is it to have former president Obama there, out there leading the resistance?
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I opened up the failing "New York Times" and "The Washington Post" this morning. No mention at all of this bill that you're signing today. For veterans who are so passionate about this, it's such a historic bill, are they going to cover this? And if they don't, why don't they cover it the way they cover every breathless scandal in the media today?

Smiley: laugh At least they got rid of "Fair & Balanced" first.
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#3103 Jun 26 2017 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
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It turns out that increasing the minimum wage actually does harm low-income workers (at a certain point).

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Using a variety of methods to analyze employment in all sectors paying below a specified real hourly rate, we conclude that the second wage increase to $13 reduced hours worked in low-wage jobs by around 9 percent, while hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3 percent. Consequently, total payroll fell for such jobs, implying that the minimum wage ordinance lowered low-wage employees’ earnings by an average of $125 per month in 2016.

Who would have guessed?*

* Other than nearly every economist in history except partisan shill Paul Krugman.
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#3104 Jun 26 2017 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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More complete story
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#3105 Jun 26 2017 at 7:41 PM Rating: Good
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Fare and ballast
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#3107 Jun 27 2017 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
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Who would have guessed?*
For $5 I'll tell you.
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#3108 Jun 27 2017 at 7:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Five bucks ain't even minimum wage.
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#3109 Jun 27 2017 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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I'll only bill for twenty minutes of work for my post to compensate.
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#3110 Jul 19 2017 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
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Is Kid Rock really running for senate or is it an extremely elaborate hoax?
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#3111 Jul 19 2017 at 5:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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He confirmed it was legit on Twitter.

Forget federal public office, the "Sweet Home Alabama" mash-up song alone should disqualify him from running for Mayor of McDonaldland
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#3112 Jul 19 2017 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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The Rock for President, The Kid Rock for Senate.

Considering our past and current political climate, it's not *that* strange.
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#3113 Jul 19 2017 at 7:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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There might be a senate seat in Arizona opening soon for him. McCain has brain cancer.
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#3114 Jul 19 2017 at 7:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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The ZAM servers are cancer.

Edited, Jul 19th 2017 8:49pm by Jophiel
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#3115 Jul 20 2017 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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He confirmed it was legit on Twitter.
This is the kind of situation that movies like Amityville Horror are based off.
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#3116 Jul 21 2017 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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Been calling it for a while, but Sean Spicer has apparently resigned as the Press Secretary.
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#3117 Jul 21 2017 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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And the Trump legal team spokesman, Mark Corallo, resigned last night. Who will be left to speak for Trump?!
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#3118 Jul 21 2017 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
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Pet rock is currently leading in its house of representative race.
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#3119 Jul 21 2017 at 1:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wasn't Pet Rock found at a spa on a woman's back?
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#3120 Jul 28 2017 at 5:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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So how about that GOP health care plan, seven years in the making, eh? Well, not the last one... that one was about two hours in the making. But, you know, the one they spent seven years making.
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#3121 Jul 28 2017 at 5:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Edit: When your best plan is "Let's pass literally anything we can scrawl out at the last second, taking coverage away from 15 million people, on a vague promise that it won't really become law" and it only falls one vote short of passing -- nice job there, guys.

Edited, Jul 28th 2017 6:31am by Jophiel
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#3122 Jul 28 2017 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good
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it only falls one vote short of passing
Bet they regret McCain's speedy return.
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#3123 Jul 28 2017 at 7:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Was reading about how the three GOP senators to vote against weren't really able to be threatened.

Collins is expected to run for governor of Maine after this term so she's just finishing out her time in the senate
Murkowski managed to win with a write-in campaign before, a testament to her popularity. She's not up for re-election until 2022. Trump had the Sec of the Interior try to threaten her (or Alaska, really) but she's Chairman of the committee on energy and natural resources, by which the Dept. of the Interior lives and dies. She responded to the threat by placing a hold on a markup bill the Dept of Interior desperately needs done.
McCain, well, has brain cancer and I guess that's when you can try voting your conscience. Plus he's still pissed about that "Only loser heroes get captured" thing.

Edit: "conscious" =/= "conscience"

Edited, Jul 28th 2017 8:24am by Jophiel
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#3124 Jul 28 2017 at 9:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Allegedly at least four Republicans voted "Aye" only after being assured the vote would not actually pass.

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#3125 Jul 28 2017 at 9:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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It still feels a bit too much like a show to me at this point. Basically they know none of this is going to pass, but political needs are outweighing other things at the moment. There's too many people who promised to make a big deal about this, so they can't back down from it too fast or risk losing face. There's enough people that want the vote on people's records. For extra ammunition against dissidents in eventual primaries, and so they can say return to their own districts with an "I voted to destroy Obamacare" bumper sticker.
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#3126 Jul 28 2017 at 10:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
Allegedly at least four Republicans voted "Aye" only after being assured the vote would not actually pass.

I wouldn't be surprised. Pretty common for members of Congress to get the nod to cast a vote protecting themselves once the whip count is in. McCain, Collins & Murkowski were already willing to take any hits so no reason to have some other senator get primaried on the right.

Sometimes you do the opposite and, if an unpopular bill will pass by a single vote, get some others to agree to vote "yes" so no one person can be singled out as the one who was the "deciding vote". But, in this case, having the vote against be 52+ would just look worse for the GOP.
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#3127 Jul 28 2017 at 10:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sure. And from a political theater point of view, pretty satisfying to have McCain come out of the hospital as a nominal savior on Monday, only to sink the vote on Thursday.

I know he did it because he's a thin-skinned grudge holder and he's still stewing about Donnie "Bone Spurs" Trump's "I like veterans who don't get captured" crack, but it was still satisfying.
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#3128 Jul 28 2017 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
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she's Chairman


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#3129 Jul 28 2017 at 9:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Chairman can be a gender neutral term
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#3130 Jul 31 2017 at 7:18 AM Rating: Good
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Still not as ridiculous as the "controversy" over manhole covers.
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#3131 Aug 07 2017 at 8:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Finally Portland does something right. Alt-Right and Antifa protestors were allowed to brawl with each other to settle their differences. Sounds like they self-policed pretty well: they beat themselves up, pepper-sprayed each other, and ultimately made sure there were enough pictures of the event that several of them could be arrested afterwards.

No word on who the winner was. Maybe they'll go another round though, as everyone seems to be up for it.
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#3132 Aug 07 2017 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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No word on who the winner was.
Everyone watching, I'd imagine.
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#3133 Aug 07 2017 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Popcorn guy probably made good money. Somewhere a former film salesmen wept as this would have been a glorious day for him 25 years prior.

In all its glory: The charge of the light brigade Smiley: lol

Edited, Aug 7th 2017 9:28am by someproteinguy
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#3134 Aug 07 2017 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure if Yakety Sax or Guile's Theme best enhanced that brief video. Both make it great, just not sure which is better.
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#3135 Aug 08 2017 at 11:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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So some google guy writes this and gets fired.

I'm not entirely sure why he was fired (I mean the thing itself isn't really that offensive or anything, but YMMV there, we all have different triggers and such, and he comes off as rather ******* about some of the points), or what possessed him to write the **** thing in the first place (really gonna rock the boat if you don't have to?), but it seems to have started a bit of a ********** So hopefully everyone enjoys the drama while it lasts.

Smiley: popcorn

Edited, Aug 8th 2017 10:42am by someproteinguy
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#3136 Aug 08 2017 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
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I like that one of his solutions to reduce the gender gap is to make leadership positions "less stressful." Though I do agree with the part about males being generally disposable.

Not really seeing the issue.
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#3137 Aug 08 2017 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ironically he was fired for making management positions more stressful, aka creating a hostile work environment. Smiley: rolleyes

Been reading through opinions of various female tech people today. Opinions vary of course, but consensus seemed to linger around the idea that google does a good job at encouraging women in tech, and recruiting them to work initially, but also does a very poor job of retaining women, both because of workplace sexism and a terrible work culture in general. It's been an interesting read at least.

Edited, Aug 8th 2017 12:36pm by someproteinguy
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#3138 Aug 08 2017 at 2:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Tech can be a pretty crappy place for women. The pervasive attitude of a lot of men who are drawn to IT and programming is that it's "their" field.

Not everyone is like that. I've been pretty lucky, for example; but I hear about it a lot from other women.

And I suppose it's been the same in other fields as well; medicine, for example, didn't exactly welcome the idea of women being doctors for centuries. Attitudes change over time. This is just another battle.

It's kind of odd to dismiss the people who made the decision to fire him as having been "triggered", though. They were probably men, after all.
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#3139 Aug 08 2017 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's kind of odd to dismiss the people who made the decision to fire him as having been "triggered", though. They were probably men, after all.
That's totally on me, sloppy wording. Smiley: blush Probably shouldn't go writing any manifestos at this rate. Smiley: rolleyes

Do struggle to see how he could have presented the viewpoint much better though, which is why I wonder why he even bothered in the first place if this is the reaction it got (despite the fact this was initially posted on a closed forum designated specifically for controversial viewpoints before it was leaked to a wider audience).

Just for fun, took the time to read some of the scientific papers he cited, and he seems to be guilty of over-interpreting data, IMO. One of those things where you take a study, and apply the results in a different context and make an assumption about how it'd play out. Even if the assumption seems to be common sense, that can be deceiving, and there's no specific evidence for what you're arguing (in this case for example, citing the study about men being drawn to pursue power, and using that as justification for an under-representation of women in tech). Given the degree to which that happens in science (i.e. everyone basically trying to pretend their data is more awesome than it really is because that can lead to more funding), I'd argue he's more guilty of over-interpreting data to fit his own political beliefs than anything actively malicious, but I'm not his employer either. Internal politics are a *****.
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#3140 Aug 08 2017 at 5:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have enough respect for SPG to give him the benefit of the doubt but, generally speaking, "triggered" is one of those "I can safely ignore you now" words. It's the 2017 version of "Looks like I touched a nerve!!!" which went out of style back around 2006 or so.
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I think if I shared a memo criticizing my current employer and bringing bad publicity to them in violation of company policy, I would be expect to be fired regardless of the content.

Where's the usual crowd letting me know how business are people and should be free to do whatever, right to work, and yadda yadda? With this, oil companies finally admitting climate change might be a problem, and companies pulling out of states that enact rights violations, the right sure does seem to have done a 180 on how they feel about the free market.

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#3144 Aug 09 2017 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
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generally speaking, "triggered" is one of those "I can safely ignore you now" words.
Ignore people that are described as triggered or people that use it to describe other people? For me it's become one of those words that causes me to gloss over entire sentences.
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Jophiel wrote:
I have enough respect for SPG to give him the benefit of the doubt but, generally speaking, "triggered" is one of those "I can safely ignore you now" words. It's the 2017 version of "Looks like I touched a nerve!!!" which went out of style back around 2006 or so.
I blame all the kiddies on reddit, they're a bad influence. Have seen it used casually (i.e. more along the lines of 'something caused something else to happen') enough that it seems to have worked it's way into my vocabulary.

That just means I'm hip right? Smiley: cool
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generally speaking, "triggered" is one of those "I can safely ignore you now" words.
Ignore people that are described as triggered or people that use it to describe other people?

People using it to describe other people. Using it sincerely, anyway -- I can make allowances for ironic usage.
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Triggered by double posts.

Edited, Aug 9th 2017 10:30am by Jophiel
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#3148 Aug 09 2017 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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How about people that refer to themselves as triggered? Kind of a worst of both worlds scenario with them, if I ask me.
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#3149 Aug 09 2017 at 1:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm triggered by triggers.

As an interesting side note to the controversy, looks like there may be a class-action lawsuit in the works against google for gender discrimination. Should keep things interesting.

Smiley: popcorn

Edited, Aug 9th 2017 12:53pm by someproteinguy
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As an interesting side note to the controversy, looks like there may be a class-action lawsuit in the works against google for gender discrimination. Should keep things interesting.


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One former senior manager [...] said she had a male employee join her team with a higher salary despite the fact that she was his superior.


I make more than many people considered to be my "superior". It's just the nature of management vs technical skills and pay scales.
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#3151 Aug 10 2017 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
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Skroob you. I make less than people I've got more experience and technical skills than. They're called "officers."

Edited, Aug 10th 2017 9:58am by lolgaxe
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